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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:06 PM Aug 2017

Pence: 'Extremist Voices' On 'Far Right' And 'Far Left' Will Be 'Marginalized'

Source: Talking Points Memo




By MATT SHUHAM Published AUGUST 14, 2017 11:48 AM

Vice President Mike Pence said Monday President Donald Trump “will continue to be clear” in condemning white supremacist hate groups — even though the President himself has not actually done so in the wake of a white supremacist terrorist attack during a hectic rally in Charlottesville, Virginia that left one counter-protester dead.

Pence also echoed Trump’s language that “many sides” of the white supremacist rally were worth condemning. Pence said he believed “we’re going to see these extremist voices on the far right and on the far left marginalized as they should be as Americans come together around our shared values.”

In an interview with Pence Monday, NBC’s Peter Alexander asked: “Do you have any concern, even if it’s not the President’s intention, that he, in fact, by not condemning white supremacists by their names, is dividing Americans?”

“Peter, we talked about that very extensively yesterday,” Pence responded. “The President made it very clear in his statement this weekend that we condemn all forms of hate and violence, and particularly condemn, as we did yesterday — we condemned the hate and the violence and the bigotry of organizations that showed up in Charlottesville like the KKK and white supremacists.”

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pence-says-far-right-far-left-should-be-marginalized

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Pence: 'Extremist Voices' On 'Far Right' And 'Far Left' Will Be 'Marginalized' (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2017 OP
False equivalency does not begin to excuse RW Authoritarians, Dominionists & Fascists like Pence. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #1
There ARE no groups like the KKK and the Nazis on the left! Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #18
+1. But false equivalence confuses people so effectively, though. Hortensis Aug 2017 #22
Don't display torches or firearms at a demonstration, there won't be a riot. forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #25
Once again a evangelical dominionist tries to create the false equivalency of republican hate Augiedog Aug 2017 #2
so if extremist voices on the far right will be silenced.... cab67 Aug 2017 #3
so basically the left can't get pissed and protest for civil rights fuck him KRISITNA Aug 2017 #4
who is the Extremist Far Left? maxsolomon Aug 2017 #5
He's trying to equate the KKK & Nazis w/extreme political groups, WHICH THEY ARE NOT. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #19
Based on posts in here from more ardent supporters of BLM LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #23
I see. I did not know that. But I suppose because the right is so anti-minority... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #26
Both sides! Both sides! Both sides! Both sides! Fuck you, Mike, you puckered Hoosier asshole hatrack Aug 2017 #6
Hmph!! CountAllVotes Aug 2017 #8
Pence is a tRumplicker. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #24
Pence Snuffs the First Amendment bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #7
Good grief! Where was "Benghazi"??? hamsterjill Aug 2017 #9
Your Republican Party put a nazi in the WH and colluded with Russia! Sunlei Aug 2017 #10
Guy's just as bad as Trump. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #11
WHAT is the "Extreme LEFT"???? Fluke a Snooker Aug 2017 #12
It's a bunch of 23 year olds at a Phish concert w Peace sign t-shirts on adigal Aug 2017 #35
Fuck him Solly Mack Aug 2017 #13
trying to look all "presidential" after the senile in chief fucked up... again Javaman Aug 2017 #14
What 'extremist voices' on the Left is he talking about? apnu Aug 2017 #15
Sounds good to me Bradical79 Aug 2017 #17
Pence spreading fake news Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #16
Demanding equality by the left is not extremism. Denying equality by the right is. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #20
What extremists are on the far left? Clue me in. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #21
That's right. The people who want genocide of the 'other' are exactly the same as people who want ck4829 Aug 2017 #27
So Pence will allow himself, and others like him, to be marginalized? I could be happy with that Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #28
The far left wants a more socialized society. The far right wants the far left dead. Vinca Aug 2017 #29
Sure, both sides have always looked the same MuseRider Aug 2017 #30
Equating the far left and the far right GaryCnf Aug 2017 #31
So you, Trump and the rest of the White House are going to be marginalized? dbackjon Aug 2017 #32
"....were going to see these extremist voices on the far right and on the far left marginalized... pangaia Aug 2017 #33
Littlefinger Pence is heard from. 6000eliot Aug 2017 #34

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. There ARE no groups like the KKK and the Nazis on the left!
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 03:10 PM
Aug 2017

I'm getting tired of this false equivalency, too.

The KKK and the Nazis are more than extremists. The Freedom Caucus in Congress - that's an example of an extremist group. The KKK and the Nazis are groups that started in large part for the purpose of KILLING GROUPS OF PEOPLE they thought didn't have a right to live.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. +1. But false equivalence confuses people so effectively, though.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:04 PM
Aug 2017

These boards have many, many people who've been soaked in and soaked up the right wing's anti-Democrat Kool-Aid and don't know it. You know, repeat a lie often enough... It's everywhere, and yet another new deluge is coming.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
25. Don't display torches or firearms at a demonstration, there won't be a riot.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:54 PM
Aug 2017

Look hard enough for a fight, you'll get one.

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
2. Once again a evangelical dominionist tries to create the false equivalency of republican hate
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:11 PM
Aug 2017

groups with progressive freedom fighters. Not going to work you fuckbag Pence. Your are going down with your orange anus master.

cab67

(2,998 posts)
3. so if extremist voices on the far right will be silenced....
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:12 PM
Aug 2017

...does that mean Pence is going to shut up?

maxsolomon

(33,360 posts)
5. who is the Extremist Far Left?
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:15 PM
Aug 2017

The Unabomber? Black Bloc? Antifa?

None of those organizations have any power or representatives in Government.

the furthest left pol I know of is Seattle City Council Member Kshama Sawant.

While the extreme right is catered to by the entire GOP.

Fuck this equivalency.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. He's trying to equate the KKK & Nazis w/extreme political groups, WHICH THEY ARE NOT.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 03:21 PM
Aug 2017

I'm getting tired of this. The Freedom Caucus in Congress is an extreme political group.

The KKK got its start LYNCHING PEOPLE. The Nazis are most famous for KILLING MILLIONS OF JEWS. They are not political groups, extreme or otherwise.

The left has Black Lives Matter, and one other group whose name I forget right now. There is no comparison between those and these domestic terrorist groups.

The Unabomber was a lone wolf, following no group. He was also mentally unhinged.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
23. Based on posts in here from more ardent supporters of BLM
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:12 PM
Aug 2017

I would not say they (or many) would even define themselves as "left". I'd gather that many members and supporters of BLM are not necessarily fans of Bernie Sanders and the left wing of the Democratic Party. BLM seemed to be led by those that wanted to take to task Democrats as well as Republicans. That it was more of a specific focus on fighting racism by authorities against African Americans, and they didn't want to cloud it with any grander themes like economic and social justice for everyone, or tether themselves to one particular party. Which I get.

https://thinkprogress.org/why-black-lives-matter-protesters-are-targeting-democrats-and-mostly-ignoring-republicans-aaab3331be1d/

Even though the GOP and Fox News likes to frame them as lefties in order to demonize them. Ideally BLM should identify as a non partisan group anyways. Racism should be a issue that crosses party lines. ....should at least. There are after all, many (some?) "moderate" Republicans, fiscal conservative but socially liberal, that still were disturbed by that rash of police murders of young black men that gave birth to BLM.


Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. I see. I did not know that. But I suppose because the right is so anti-minority...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:56 PM
Aug 2017

anything having to do with pro-minority would ipso facto, to them, be "left." Me...I don't know. I just made that assumption.

Thanks for the info.

CountAllVotes

(20,877 posts)
8. Hmph!!
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:23 PM
Aug 2017

That is what I said before I even read the link.

FUCK YOU PENCE!

His denial makes him just as bad a dump & the rest of his minions!!!



hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
9. Good grief! Where was "Benghazi"???
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:33 PM
Aug 2017

Their arguments have ceased to be entertaining.

They either condemn the actions in Charlottesville or they condone them. They are condoning them.

 

Fluke a Snooker

(404 posts)
12. WHAT is the "Extreme LEFT"????
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 01:24 PM
Aug 2017

No such animal. This is an insidious attempt to associate progressives with Republicans/KKK/White Supremecists/TRUMP. NO SUCH THING!!!

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
35. It's a bunch of 23 year olds at a Phish concert w Peace sign t-shirts on
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:44 PM
Aug 2017

They might be stoned, also.
Scary folks.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
14. trying to look all "presidential" after the senile in chief fucked up... again
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 02:02 PM
Aug 2017

your time is coming pence, your time in jail.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
15. What 'extremist voices' on the Left is he talking about?
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 02:09 PM
Aug 2017

Clue me in. What on the Left compares to racism and fascism? Hippies living in a commune?

Right wingers always look to false equivalency for cover when their racist base is exposed.

Nope. Right-wing asshats own all of this. The Left doesn't have shit to do with it except show up louder and in bigger numbers whenever nazi fuck heads come out to play.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. Sounds good to me
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 03:02 PM
Aug 2017

If we actually marginalized the extreme right and left Hippy communes will be left alone, a few dozen black bloc members will be exiled, and we cast off 90% of the Republican party and a bunch of Libertarians too

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
16. Pence spreading fake news
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 02:12 PM
Aug 2017

over the course of days Pence is really saying that in his world there is no difference between hate and love .......... the two sides

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Demanding equality by the left is not extremism. Denying equality by the right is.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 03:24 PM
Aug 2017

Demanding equality by the left is not extremism. Denying equality by the right is.

truthisfreedom

(23,152 posts)
21. What extremists are on the far left? Clue me in.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 03:32 PM
Aug 2017

I've never heard of them.

This insistent false equivalency is nauseating. We don't have leadership. We have patsies.

ck4829

(35,080 posts)
27. That's right. The people who want genocide of the 'other' are exactly the same as people who want
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:01 PM
Aug 2017

universal healthcare.

, from me anyway.

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
29. The far left wants a more socialized society. The far right wants the far left dead.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:29 PM
Aug 2017

Big difference. I'm so tired of the false equivalency.

MuseRider

(34,115 posts)
30. Sure, both sides have always looked the same
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

<a href="http://imgur.com/MZDZlhk"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

Exactly the same.

This young mans sister wrote to me here when I posted this before for some other reason. I have looked all over through all my many years of saved posts and mails but have not been able to find it again.

This was 1967 and was the beginning of Flower Power. The National Guard is featured here but from what I saw this weekend they were not nearly as well armed then as the regular militia groups are now.

Yes, just like we always were. Both sides are the same. It was different then but still the same as now. Both sides were to blame for the violence and hatred.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
31. Equating the far left and the far right
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

Where in the world would he ever get that idea . . . Where in the world have we ever heard that before . . . I wonder if he used the horseshoe meme?

It's a LIE no matter who says it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. "....were going to see these extremist voices on the far right and on the far left marginalized...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

WHAT far left? Who? Where?

Dumb fuck...

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