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turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:45 AM Aug 2017

'Nissan, you made us mad': union promises to fight Mississippi defeat

Source: The Guardian

Nissan workers in Canton, Mississippi voted against unionizing on Friday, by a margin of 2,244 to 1,307. The vote was a disappointing defeat for those who hoped to open the door for union organizing across the American south.

“With this vote, the voice of Nissan employees has been heard,” said Nissan spokesperson Parul Baraj in a statement. “Our expectation is that the [United Automobile Workers] will respect and abide by their decision and cease their efforts to divide our Nissan family.”

Pro-union workers said they had no intentions of leaving any time soon. Hardball company tactics against the vote have attracted the attention of federal labor authorities, which could call for a new ballot.

“It ain’t over yet,” union leader Morris Mock told a crowd of dozens Nissan workers. “It ain’t over yet. Nissan, all you did was make us mad. We are gonna fight a little harder next time. We are gonna stand a little harder next time. We are gonna shout a little harder next time because next time we are never gonna give up.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/05/mississippi-nissan-workers-vote-against-union



So with their state and federal legislatures attacking health care and wanting to dismantle the cadillac form of health care from the work place, standing besides temp workers undermining your wage and benefits, and state legislatures trying to roll back the federal minimum wage, 2,244 human beings think that the word "union" means exactly what, have you stood back and thought what your state government is doing to you, just a teeny bit and there corporate "union"




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'Nissan, you made us mad': union promises to fight Mississippi defeat (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2017 OP
Sad SHRED Aug 2017 #1
What is really disgusting is that businesses and the local media jumped in on the band wagon turbinetree Aug 2017 #2
Public officials also SHRED Aug 2017 #3
It is like the whole town business and "officials " are dictaors turbinetree Aug 2017 #4
It was up to the voters to see through all this SHRED Aug 2017 #5
Intimidation is still intimidation when you have signs being placed in business windows turbinetree Aug 2017 #8
I understand intimidation SHRED Aug 2017 #9
It never ceases to surprise me when people vote against their own interests SkatmanRoth Aug 2017 #6
Stop letting it surprise you.. pangaia Aug 2017 #10
The South's mistrust of Unions... yallerdawg Aug 2017 #7
No paper ballot? There's precedent for them to demand another vote. Where are the lawyers. ancianita Aug 2017 #11
"......cease their efforts to divide our Nissan family." pangaia Aug 2017 #12
"UNION MOTTO" bleedinglib Aug 2017 #13
We are a nation of fools. broadcaster90210 Aug 2017 #14
The UAW fucked themselves when they went along with tiered aka B-scale wages Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2017 #15
+1 leftstreet Aug 2017 #17
Leading up to the vote, they stated they were confident it would pass nm MichMan Aug 2017 #19
Apparently they don't read the news leftstreet Aug 2017 #20
It has been front page news in Detroit every day MichMan Aug 2017 #24
Surprised Nissan put a plant there The Wizard Aug 2017 #16
Huge miscalculation by the UAW MichMan Aug 2017 #18
People will feign agreement just to get proselytizers to shut up and move on Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2017 #22
Reagan would be sooooooo happy!!! n/t Bengus81 Aug 2017 #21
This is why I always throw cold water on the folks Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #23
Another long-settled issue we must re-fight every generation librechik Aug 2017 #25
Fact is, people in places like rural Mississippi are glad to have jobs that start at $14/hour with Hoyt Aug 2017 #26
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
1. Sad
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 10:55 AM
Aug 2017

Real sad that workers are duped into not voting to bring democracy and a voice into their workplace.
Idiots.

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
2. What is really disgusting is that businesses and the local media jumped in on the band wagon
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:06 AM
Aug 2017

and if they were to really take a hard look at how this town and this scab corporation pits people against people it is just amazing

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
4. It is like the whole town business and "officials " are dictaors
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:14 AM
Aug 2017

vote this way or else.......................really

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
8. Intimidation is still intimidation when you have signs being placed in business windows
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:27 AM
Aug 2017

basically saying vote no-------------amazing

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
9. I understand intimidation
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:30 AM
Aug 2017

I took my employer to Federal Court and won a civil rights case. And I retired from the same employer years later.

This was a secret vote far removed from personal intimidation.

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
6. It never ceases to surprise me when people vote against their own interests
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:17 AM
Aug 2017

Without strong unions, factory work will return to what it was a century ago.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. Stop letting it surprise you..
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:41 AM
Aug 2017

We ALL should stop letting ANY of this shit surprise us.

It is reality.

We need to fight it.


HOORAAA!!!!!!!




yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. The South's mistrust of Unions...
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:22 AM
Aug 2017

goes back a generation or two to all the Union jobs that disappeared after everyone fought for and signed up for - textiles, mines, manufacturing.

Federal labor and wage laws fixed a lot of problems, so Unions don't have the anticipated impact they once had.

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
11. No paper ballot? There's precedent for them to demand another vote. Where are the lawyers.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:42 AM
Aug 2017

I also see where they were threatened and intimidated, both of which should get legal remedies.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
12. "......cease their efforts to divide our Nissan family."
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 11:53 AM
Aug 2017

FAMILY, my ass.


But the deplorables swallow it whole...

And the rest of us suffer for it.

broadcaster90210

(333 posts)
14. We are a nation of fools.
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:09 PM
Aug 2017

But in the end, their problem and not mine. They could have voted for this. Sucks to be them. *shrug*

MichMan

(11,950 posts)
24. It has been front page news in Detroit every day
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 07:08 PM
Aug 2017

It has been front page news here in Detroit daily with one story after another all week. Not surprising considering the significance of the auto industry here and it being home to the Big 3 and the UAW.

Wasn't sure how widespread the reporting of this was in other areas of the country

UAW president Dennis Williams tried to down play it, saying it wasn't union money that was embezzled, so it did not affect the membership.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
16. Surprised Nissan put a plant there
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:17 PM
Aug 2017

Toyota researched Mississippi as a possible location and found putting the plant in Canada would be more productive and profitable. Canada has better education standards and Toyota saved about $4 an hour labor as Canada has Universal healthcare.

MichMan

(11,950 posts)
18. Huge miscalculation by the UAW
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 12:24 PM
Aug 2017

Big miscalculation by the UAW. You don't usually call for an election unless you think you have a very good shot of winning. With the vote against being nearly 65-35 %, they severely overestimated their level of support

Expecting the NLRB to order a new vote when the defeat was so overwhelming will not change a damn thing when you get your clock cleaned like that

I wonder what effect the indictments last week against the widow of a high ranking UAW official for him conspiring with Chrysler exec to embezzle millions of dollars might have had.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
22. People will feign agreement just to get proselytizers to shut up and move on
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:37 PM
Aug 2017

If somebody is going to unionize the foreign automakers it isn't going to be the UAW.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. This is why I always throw cold water on the folks
Sat Aug 5, 2017, 04:09 PM
Aug 2017

who think America is ripe for some glorious socialist takeover.....

librechik

(30,676 posts)
25. Another long-settled issue we must re-fight every generation
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:47 AM
Aug 2017

at least since the dumbing down movement started with Reagan

I'm pretty sick of this.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
26. Fact is, people in places like rural Mississippi are glad to have jobs that start at $14/hour with
Sun Aug 6, 2017, 12:13 PM
Aug 2017

good health insurance. Whether their fears are rational or not, viewed as against their interests by some, etc., they can remember when there weren't any jobs available, even at $8/hour, and don't want to mess that up. I don't think anyone really knows what's right in this case unless you work there.

I hope they vote and vote Democratic, but that's a different issue.

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