UPDATED - Trump Atty: Pardons 'Not On The Table' Because 'There's Nothing To Pardon'

[DonViejo]

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Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published JULY 23, 2017 9:22 AM

A member of President Donald Trump’s legal team on Sunday said pardons are not on the table for Trump and his associates, despite reports that the President has inquired into his power to grant them, because “there’s nothing to pardon from.”

“We have not, and continue to not, have conversations with the President of the United States regarding pardons. Pardons have not been discussed, and pardons are not on the table,” Jay Sekulow, an attorney on Trump’s outside legal team, said on ABC News’ “This Week.”

He said Trump’s tweet on Sunday declaring his ability to grant pardons was “rather unremarkable.”

Trump’s declaration of his “complete power to pardon” came amid reports that his aides are looking for ways to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jay-sekulow-trump-pardons-not-on-the-table

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UPDATE:


Scaramucci makes liar out of Trump lawyer: I talked pardons ‘in the Oval Office with the president last week’

DAVID EDWARDS
23 JUL 2017 AT 11:23 ET

White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci on Sunday appeared to contradict official Trump administration talking points when he revealed that he had spoken to President Donald Trump about the possible use of the president’s pardon power.

Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace asked Scaramucci why Trump tweeted about his “complete power” to pardon last week if no crimes had been committed. “Why even talk about pardons?” Wallace wondered.

“This is one of those things about Washington, the convolution and the nature of things,” Scaramucci explained. “I’m in the Oval Office with the president last week and we were talking about that, he says he brought that up, but he doesn’t have to be pardoned, there’s nobody around him that has to be pardoned. He was just making the statement about the power of the pardon.”

“Now, all of the speculation and all of the spin is he’s going to pardon himself,” he added. “The president does not need to pardon himself. And the reason he doesn’t need to pardon himself is he hasn’t done anything wrong.”

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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/scaramucci-makes-liar-out-of-trump-lawyer-i-talked-pardons-in-the-oval-office-with-the-president-last-week/

[bitterross]

1. Trump will tweet a contradiction in ....3...2...1

Seriously, I'm just waiting for it. I can put money on the certainty of it almost.

[Catmusicfan]

2. Should we also not pay attention to the man behind the curtain

controlling the puppet stings and has a Russian accent?

[Laf.La.Dem.]

3. Jay Sekulow - please tell us that Trump will NEVER pardon anyone in his family and/or administration

[bucolic_frolic]

4. This guy is a con man too

Pardons are being discussed because they're not being discussed because there's no one to
pardon for the pardonable crimes they want to be pardoned for and didn't commit.

CONFUSION is one of their strategies.

CONFUSION creates doubt.

Don't believe a word he says, even when his lips don't move.

[Turbineguy]

5. A new strategery?

The "Don't-Act-So-Guilty" ploy.

[Bradical79]

6. Lawyer speak

Translation: "My client is an idiot. Please please PLEASE ignore his Twitter tantrums that make him look guilty as hell."

[Bradical79]

7. Exclusive footage of his press conference:

[UpInArms]

8. When your client is a fool who contradicts everything you say

Your appearance is also foolish

But ... the fact you represent this fool ... makes us know you are one, too

[truthisfreedom]

9. Fucking farce. 45 is completely transparent.

He's telling everyone not to make deals to put him away because as presidunce he can simply get them off himself.

[Nitram]

10. Clearly rump's lawyers are dismayed by his admission of guilt when he tweeted

about pardoning himself and his family.

"Dude! Don't talk about pardons before you are even accused of a crime! Please!"

[Solly Mack]

11. When trial balloon gets peppered with holes, issue denial. Retrieve trial balloon. Patch for later.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. I don't think there's anything left from that balloon to retrieve. nt 😀

[Solly Mack]

18. I wouldn't think so either...except, well - Trump.

The man is so far below shameless he lives in a void.

[Gothmog]

12. The trumpies cannot keep their stories straight

[Egnever]

13. Yet

[workinclasszero]

15. So why did Twitler say he was the King of Pardons??

Trump Says He Has ‘Complete Power’ to Pardon
By PETER BAKERJULY 22, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jeff-sessions.html

[They_Live]

16. "You can't prove anything. there's nothing to prove!"

“it seems a shame to have to sneak to get to the truth.To make the truth such a dirty old nasty thing.You gotta sneak to get to the truth, the truth is condemned.The truth is in the gas chamber.The truth has been in your stockyards.Your slaughterhouses.The truth has been in your reservations, building your railroads, emtying your garbage.The truth is in your ghettos.In your jails.In your young love,not in your courts or congress where the old set judgement on the young.What the hell do the old know about the young?They put a picture of old George on the dollar and tell you that he's your father, worship him.Look at the madness that goes on, you can't prove anything that happened yesterday.Now is the only thing that's real.Everyday, every reality is a new reality.Every new reality is a new horizon,a brand new experience of living.I got a note last night from a friend of mine.He writes in this note that he's afraid of what he might have to do in order to save his reality, as i save mine.You can't prove anything.There's nothing to prove.Every man judges himself.He knows what he is. You know what you are, as i know what i am,we all know what we are.Nobody can stand in judgement, they can play like they're standing in judgement.They can play like they stand in judgement and take you off and control the masses, with your human body.They can lock you up in penitentiaries and cages and put you in crosses like they did in the past,but it doesn't amount to anything. What they're doing is, they're only persecuting a reflection of themselves. They're persecuting what they can't stand to look at in themselves,the truth.”

― Charles Manson

[Kathy M]

17. Trump does have power to pardon ..... did he say who or did people assume .........

If you read again Scaramucci did not make liar out of lawyer .......

Scarramucci and Trump may have talked about subject of pardon in the office but he does not have to be pardoned same wording as lawyer .

Guess people are not tired of going down the rabbit hole ........

[LuckyLib]

19. When his lawyers meet, the head shaking in the room is followed by someone saying,

"Can't he just STFU?"

Obviously not. He's a lunatic. End of story. You have your work cut out for you, and any attorney who hitches his/her wagon to this crazy train has a screw loose.