Harry Reid: Bain Investor Told Me That Mitt Romney 'Didn't Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years'
Source: Huffington Post
A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.
"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying.
"He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look?
"You guys have said his wealth is $250 million," Reid went on. "Not a chance in the world. It's a lot more than that. I mean, you do pretty well if you don't pay taxes for 10 years when you're making millions and millions of dollars."
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)montanacowboy
(6,103 posts)well, now he will have to release them to either prove or disprove
I hope Harry hasn't stepped in deep doo doo but OMG please let this be true
he could be worth a B I L L I O N $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Gman
(24,780 posts)"This kind of wild and mean spirited innuendo have no place in politics. This is a new low. Mr Romney is insulted and demands an apology for these baseless accusations.".
Or something very similar.
skip fox
(19,359 posts)might speak volumes!
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Republicans just don't do citizen responsibility when it comes to the USA.
Now Swiss Bank Accounts and Cayman Islands tax shelters, that's
what Republicans are all about. Me me me me me me.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)As Michele Bachmann would say.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Oh, another of the millipede's shoes dropping!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)he could get away with this?
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)If he paid no taxes while making millions, then there is no way of hiding that.
jn2375
(910 posts)"We feel comfortable in the Senate," he said. "Where the problem is, is this: Because of the Citizens United decision, Karl Rove and the Republicans are looking forward to a breakfast the day after the election. They are going to assemble 17 angry old white men for breakfast, some of them will slobber in their food, some will have scrambled eggs, some will have oatmeal, their teeth are gone. But these 17 angry old white men will say, 'Hey, we just bought America. Wasn't so bad. We still have a whole lot of money left.'"
Melissa G
(10,170 posts)please post with a link so I can rec.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)johnd83
(593 posts)Just make the attack ads and keep playing them as we have learned from the GOP.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)than that Obama was born in Kenya within a few years of the Kenyatta uprisings.
In fact, it is from very possible to quite likely that Romney paid no taxes at least in some of those years.
It is also possible that some of his income during those years came from some of his current donors' businesses.
There are a number of other possibilities.
The Obama administration is just oozing this information, but I'm becoming more and more certain that Obama's friends know just what they are doing.
mugwort2
(2 posts)I'm not terribly surprised the possibility of Mitt Romney not paying any income taxes with so much of his money in foreign banks. Show some respect for Mitt Romney. He can't show any tax returns if he did not pay any. Come on isn't that terribly unfair of you or anyone to complain.
On the other hand , seriously I think its terribly unfair for anybody in the financial bracket at Romney not to pay taxes.
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Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I think we all know that whatever is in Willard tax returns spells the end of his political career. It really could be that Mitt didn't pay taxes in one or more years, that or some of the deductions that he claimed were legal, but massively embarrassing.
Remember that Mittens' line is that he paid all the taxes that were owed. I believe him on that one. The tax system is so rigged toward the wealthy that it is altogether possible that he paid zero taxes. In addition to disqualifying him to be President, I hope this revelation will result in a serious discussion about the unfairness of the tax code.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)but I can see where "Sarah was the better candidate."
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Jessy169
(602 posts)There wasn't anything to see!
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And for tax purposes Romney still pays the taxes on the earnings from that trust fund, as I understand it. In 2010 Romney reported nearly $22 million in income. That would mean that he was averaging 10% on his portfolio if he was worth $220 million. Then his estimate for 2011 had him with similar income. Generally, things that are tax sheltered earn much less than things without a tax shelter. In other words, it would normally take about $600 million in investiments to earn what Romney is reporting as income for tax purposes.
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)"He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look?
Notice Reid did NOT say it was a fact, he said he was not certain and he said Romney "CAN'T" release those returns because of how it would look. Even if he really did pay taxes all those years, he will have to show his returns for people to believe him, and if this is NOT the reason he isn't showing them, then there is something else in their that would be just as bad. Also if he claimed he lived in another state when he voted for Brown in Mass. that would be voter fraud and that is a felony!
Seems to me like Reid is putting Romney into a no win situation here, but also covering himself by saying out front he is not certain about Romney not paying taxes for 10 years.
Now if Romney can only get through the convention, become the crowned nominee, and then democrats can go after him again about his taxes it will be the perfect storm, for Romney!
Igel
(35,359 posts)A lot of people here have said the same thing. Investors with Bain didn't get a private showing of every past CEO's tax return any more than DUers did.
But Reid assumes that having invested at some point with Bain gives the caller inside knowledge, that being a Bain investor is relevant. I love manipulating Gricean maxims; it can be fun if done innocently. I don't like being manipulated through the use of Gricean maxims.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)exactly how it applies here.
Care to explain? Not being snarky but seems a tad obscure.
japple
(9,841 posts)"The Gricean Maxims are a way to explain the link between utterances and what is understood from them." This is from wikipedia
In other words: "Mr. Romey, have you stopped beating your wife?"
Edit to add: If I've got this all wrong, please elucidate!! Many thanks.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)I bet he got refunds as well.
bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)I would suspect a lot of anti-government enthusiasts pay no taxes.
Some people won't even use the US Postal Service because it's
connected to the government.
Wonder what's in those returns. Trips to Argentina?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)shoreline
(82 posts)Reminiscent of the story about LBJ's response to an extremely unflattering and probably untrue report concerning a political opponent: "I don't care if it's true, I just want to hear him deny it."
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)I can't imagine he'd say it w/o some good reason. This could get good.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)The point is to get Romney to release his returns. Even if he did pay taxes for those 10 years, there's probably other unseemly and/or illegal crap in there.
What Reid did was brilliant.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Was that someone else told him. If it's not true, then Reid can just trot out the line from Casablanca "I was misinformed."
Jessy169
(602 posts)Reid says he got a call from "a person who had invested with Bain Capital". Romney MUST be wondering what else former Bain Capital investors may or may not have told Harry Reid. His mind must be in overdrive trying to figure out who at Bain might be ratting him out, and if there are others who might spill even more damaging beans on Romney before November. It must be horrible to be Mitt right now.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)a little Mormon-on-Mormon violence.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)From his days palling around with the mob.
firehorse
(755 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)If Romney thought a trip overseas was going to divert attention from his tax problems at home, well....guess not. It's been a bad July for the MittNit, and bound to get worse. Layers of lies always, always come back to bite us.
Good on Reid - it was a brilliant move.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)I applaud Senator Reid's actions. The tax return issues will be alive and well for the debates.
I imagine that Romney's VP candidate had to provide more than two years worth of returns and they will be asked about these returns when the time comes. Romney is going to have to admit that he looked at more than two years of returns or admit that he did a weak job of vetting
cleduc
(653 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Harry was a golden gloves boxer.
Nice move Sen Reid.
truthisfreedom
(23,155 posts)He had the guy's story completely vetted so as to not step in it.
high density
(13,397 posts)Just throw shit out there and let them spend a week denying it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)BREMPRO
(2,331 posts)this is the perfect plant.. have an anonymous source make a claim that he paid no taxes .. so when they finally come out.. if they do they don't looks so bad because he paid "all the taxes required by law" and it's more than zero.... need corroboration on this one... who is the source and are they credible.. anyone who worked for bain is suspicious and why would they know anything about Mitt's tax returns? The other possibility is Reid is overstating or making this up to put romney in a box.. if he doesn't release them this suspicion is always there...
don't know if the tax returns matters if the economy stalls..even if it is the Republican's fault for blocking jobs bills and wasting their legislation time trying to trash Obama and ACA..
alp227
(32,056 posts)Maybe that investor might come out in October and do a TV interview, who knows? But I'm somewhat skeptical for now.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Some guy who Willard bragged to about his brilliant tax attorneys who sheltered A, B and C, figured out how to grow a $100m IRA and pass another $100 to his kids' trust, tax free, bla bla bla.
No need for "some guy" to go on camera. The allegation is out there, and Willard can easily rebut it by releasing the returns. Until he does, the license to speculate it just gaining more and more value.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)in income tax for the last ten years? Mitt the Twit, blah, blah, blah, don't need to release tax information, Cayman Islands, blah, blah, blah.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)was part of the sales pitch? I would be VERY surprised if it wasn't, really.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)Win-win. Either Romney releases his tax returns and whatever's in them, or Romney keeps denying this without releasing them and no one believes him. Brilliant.