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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 04:30 PM Jul 2017

U.S. general in South Korea: Only self-restraint is keeping us from war

Source: Politico




By LOUIS NELSON 07/05/2017 07:32 AM EDT

The only thing holding back the U.S. and South Korea from renewing their war against North Korea is “self restraint,” the commander of U.S. forces on the Korean Peninsula said in a statement released Tuesday, a barrier that he said could be removed at any time.

"Self-restraint, which is a choice, is all that separates armistice and war. As this Alliance missile live fire shows, we are able to change our choice when so ordered by our Alliance national leaders," wrote Gen. Vincent Brooks, the commander of U.S. Forces Korea, Combined Forces Command and the United Nations Command. "It would be a grave mistake for anyone to believe anything to the contrary."

North Korea launched its first intercontinental ballistic missile Tuesday, a key step in its long-held ambition to join the ranks of the world’s nuclear-armed states. North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un vowed on Wednesday that his nation would never surrender its nuclear program, according to an Associated Press report, and urged his nation’s scientists to “frequently send big and small ‘gift packages’ to the Yankees.”

Based on its flight time and the trajectory of Tuesday’s launch, the range of the missile tested Tuesday by North Korea could extend as far as Alaska, putting U.S. shores within reach of the often-belligerent and unpredictable Kim regime.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/05/north-korea-missile-general-vincent-brooks-240222

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Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
11. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions . . .
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jul 2017

Yes, in this case, "restraint" translates to no viable options.

NK right now appears to be the leading vector for Trump getting a lot of us killed.

"According to one report, a South Korean security analyst suggested that DPRK artillery pieces of calibers 170mm and 240mm "could fire 10,000 rounds per minute to Seoul and its environs." The number of Koksan guns is not publicly reported, but it is reliably reported that North Korea has about 500 long-range artillery tubes within range of Seoul, double the levels of a the mid-1990s. Large caliber self propelled artillery pieces typically have a sustained rate of fire of between four and eight rounds per minute. This suggests a total rate of fire of artillery alone of between 2,000 and 4,000 rounds per minute. The DPRK's two hundred 240mm MRLs fire either 12 or 22 rounds, providing a maximum single salvo of no more than 4,400 rounds. "

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
9. Because China
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:45 PM
Jul 2017

US troops are in the region to keep an eye on China and discourage aggression toward it's neighbors like Taiwan. North Korea is the excuse.

China props up North Korea because communism. Read about the Korean war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. Everyone kept kicking the can down the road, now we're stuck.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:43 PM
Jul 2017

All we would hear time after time, was that the north would start a war if we didnt do "X". And we'd do whatever and the North continued to develop their capacity. Now we're stuck with all the past mistakes coming home to roost.
China probably wouldve gone along with removing that family and installing someone else that would be a bit more reasonable. Now i doubt even THEY can stop this nutjob

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
8. One more thing:
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:43 PM
Jul 2017

NoKo hasn't attacked us or our allies yet, or made any credible threats against same. Yes, there have been threats. But these are little more than a gorilla pounding its chest.

We should do no pre-emptive attacking. We should wait until he tries something, and then send in conventional assets to destroy every military installation that can be found. (We should damn well have been spending the last couple of years ascertaining the locations of their military installations, including army bases, airports and rocket launching sites. We should have a bombing plan written down and in our back pocket by now.)

But I just hope that Trump (aka, first asshole) isn't looking to start a new wider war. (Maybe he's been watching too much M*A*S*H lately and is getting nostalgic.)

I'm sure the world realizes that the only real difference between Trump and Kim Jung Un is hair color and a few pounds. Nothing more.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
10. Trumpster fire wants a war to boost his piss poor poll numbers
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jul 2017

The Middle East has proven to be much harder than the GOP has realized. Maybe they think North Korea will be simpler since they are so backwards and don't have stateless terrorists who could threaten us at home?

I think anyone who decides to go to war with NK would be underestimating their level of craziness. They've had decades of propaganda and brainwashing.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
12. "NoKo hasn't attacked us or our allies yet"
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:10 PM
Jul 2017

If you don't count the whole torpedoed a S Korean naval vessel and killing 46 seamen.


Or the whole North Korean forces firing around 170 artillery shells and rockets at Yeonpyeong Island, hitting both military and civilian targets, killing four South Koreans and injuring 19.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
13. Two toddlers with their hands on the red button
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jul 2017

threatening each other with idiots ramping up incendiary insane shit in the UN, in press releases from generals as insane as The Traitor. The insane rhetoric I saw earlier made me want to start digging a bomb shelter. One of the most idiotic things I've heard so far is the "everyone that trades with N. Korea must stop". Yeah the drooling idiots actually spit that one out. A family of grifters that have ALL their product made in sweatshops through out China is telling North Korea's "trading partners", read China, must stop.

Uhhhhhhh what? I can not even begin to understand what criss cross crazy train "logic" it takes to get there.

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