Carrier workers facing layoffs feel betrayed by Trump

[TomCADem]

Source: CBS News

INDIANAPOLIS -- A promise made before Christmas is fizzling before the Fourth of July.

In December, then-President-elect Trump told hundreds of workers at the Carrier manufacturing plant that he had worked out a deal to save their jobs.

But it's not working out that way. A steady downpour today did little to wash away the fact that the jobs of 600 union employees are going south.

"They're going to Monterrey, Mexico," said Robert James, president of the local union. Reynolds said he felt betrayed, since Mr. Trump told workers during his December visit to the plant that 1,100 jobs would be saved.


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Trump does not really need to worry. Because in the world of Brietbart, Fox and Rush Limbaugh, all those jobs remained saved and the employees of Carrier remain thankful for Trump's intervention.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Certainly they were USED by tRump. Also he lied about a deal that pre-dated his election. . . . nt

[nikibatts]

61. Why doesn't the media cover this like they covered his lying about it?

Our media is really not doing the job of journalism of a free country. Probably because they are not and we are not.

[Starry Messenger]

2. Next time they won't vote to betray the rest of the working class too, then, maybe?

[sheshe2]

29. Hey Starry.

Nah, they vote against themselves every dayum time.

[Starry Messenger]

50. Yep. SMH.

[Bob Loblaw]

3. And Pence gave $7M

of Indiana taxpayer's money to make it appear that Trump had done something to help those folks. In Indiana that's real money.

[NBachers]

4. Are they capable of comprehending that they voted for the wrong guy?

[marylandblue]

6. Capable? Yes. Willing? Hopefully

[msongs]

7. probably not. or learning to vote for the better man/woman next time nt

[mn9driver]

12. Nope.

Delusion is more powerful than Reason, for most people.

[Wellstone ruled]

14. Well stated,you and I have seen this first hand

several times. As we said before,money talks and bullshit walks. Some never see the difference.

[zentrum]

35. Will still probably

...figure put a way to blame Obama.

[Shell_Seas]

57. Doubtful..

They'll find some way to spin it and blame it Obama, Hillary, or Democrats.

[Warpy]

5. GOOD. Let's hope it starts to spread

as people realize that swamp he was talking about draining held all the remaining decent jobs in this country, along with regulations that protected the people against the powerful.

I'm sorry so many people got fooled. Time to wake up.

[riversedge]

9. yup. they got fooled by #DontheCon

[Jakes Progress]

63. republican theme is version of Who song:

"I Wanna Get Fooled Again"

[red dog 1]

16. + 1

However, I doubt if his permanent base of 35 percent of the American voters will ever "wake up"

[July]

71. Let's hope his base is at least as low as GWB's 24%.

Never thought we'd see someone worse, but Trump should go even lower than that dumbass.

[red dog 1]

74. Bush 43 was FDR & JFK compared to the Orange Assclown in the White House today

but, no matter how many lies he tells, or how many Americans he kills, Drumpf will likely have at least 30-35 percent of Americans who will still support him.....(Go figure!)

[blue-wave]

8. Must be Trump's retribution for

Hillary winning the state of Indiana. Oh, but wait.......??

[hatrack]

10. So, class, what have we learned from today's lesson?

How about "Never trust the word of an amoral, predatory, lying double-shuffle con man"?

[Skittles]

39. that some people are dumber than fuck

[tazkcmo]

44. omg

Thank you!!! Plus a bagillion zillion!!!

[irisblue]

66. You speak the truth Skittles

[kimbutgar]

11. Good, the majority of us knew he was a con man

But the special kind of stupid let themselves be conned and lied to by the grifter in chief.

All one had to do is look at his past from chump university, to the casinos being used as collateral to get Russian loans to the multiple bankruptcies.

[larry budwell]

13. Too bad, so sad

When voting, choose wisely.

[Hoyt]

15. They'll vote for Trump or someone just like him next time.

[rpannier]

51. Because one day they will be zillionaires

and will not want to pay any taxes
They'll also own a castle in the clouds and ride rainbow unicorns to and from the stars

[Hoyt]

54. So true. And, even if they never make it, they sure don't want their taxes going to minorities (even

though they probably get more help than anyone).

[red dog 1]

17. Kick for exposure!

Every single day brings us more tRump lies and/or broken promises.

[bluecollar2]

18. they got to keep their guns...

[elmac]

22. Yep, repug gun control

when you lose your job you have to sell your guns to put food on the table

[not fooled]

52. Oh, yes

just as Hillary and Obama were on the verge of seizing them. Whew, they escaped just in time by voting for dump!!!

[TeamPooka]

19. suckers always feel betrayed, eventually.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

20. Hilarious how they feel betrayed

Because a known and proven liar lied to them. Amazing.

[harun]

21. Knew this was going to happen. Carrier took the extra money and ran.

[Stuart G]

23. Oh MY....

Say it ain't so...took the money and ran away...
to spend it another day.....

[czarjak]

24. Like Paul Ryan said at the 2012 convention....

When referring to Mitt making two hundred million dollars sending jobs overseas, "that's a good thing". (Mitt agrees)

[yuiyoshida]

25. Trump lied from the Get Go and Hasn't stopped yet...

[Binkie The Clown]

26. Trump has a lifelong history of promising what he can't deliver.

When will people learn that they need to exercise due diligence?

[bettyellen]

27. Let's see THEM get off their asses and protest! Why aren't they?

[SHRED]

28. Their first mistake was believing him

[blueinredohio]

30. You would have thought they would have learned by having Pence as governor

[broadcaster90210]

31. Screw em

nt

[RestoreAmerica2020]

32. To bad so sad!

They fell for don-the-con artist. As my father says "to bad so sad"

[BigmanPigman]

33. What about the thousands of lost jobs (and growing)still never mentioned by the GOP and fake prez?

Everybody is closing stores and losing jobs as technology replaces more workers. I have had to re-educate and earn two degrees and complete years and years of internships as an adult when tech replaced my former careers. I spent my own time, energy and money to do it over and over as have many professionals I know. These tRump voters are the biggest crybabies and get the attention however. I have no sympathy. Wake up and face reality and do something about it. People who endured hell during the depression are rolling in their graves.

[Ligyron]

41. I went to a McDonald's for the first time in like, forever the other day.

Now you have to order your food on a large touch-screen, pay with a card and wait for pick-up. If I ever have to eat that shit again it's drive thru for me.

[tazkcmo]

45. The could flee to Nicaragua.

I hear it's where American refugees refuge.

Seriously though, boot straps aren't for them, boot straps are for brown people. They should be compensated when globalization or tech advances destroy their industries because they're REAL Americans!

[bitterross]

34. Don't Worry, Kelleyanne Conway says adults can always find jobs.

Just makes me want to barf every time she says something stupid like that. She has to know she's full of shit.

[Still In Wisconsin]

36. Props... that's all they ever were to TRUMP. n/t

[Gothmog]

37. These workers feel betrayed because they were betrayed

[Skittles]

38. WHY would they value the word of a KNOWN COMPULISIVE LIAR

[Sunlei]

40. Those 800 are in the same "no job" situation as the millions of retail people who sold those units

Like closed down Sears ex-retail employees.

[jmowreader]

42. All over Oceania this morning there were irrepressable spontaneous demonstrations...

...when workers marched out of factories and offices and paraded through the streets with banners voicing their gratitude to Donald Trump for the new, happy life which his wise leadership has bestowed upon us. Here are some of the completed figures...

[Blue_Roses]

43. Damn.

Trusting a lying con artist. Unfortunately, because of their blind trust in Trump, they've not only screwed themselves out of a job, but also screwed the rest of America---for now.

[Coventina]

46. No sympathy from me. The lies of Trump were in plain sight.

They chose racism and lies.

Losers.

Sad.

[Beacool]

47. F*ck IN, they elected Pence as their governor and voted for Trump.

They can rot.

[dem in texas]

48. I knew those jobs were going to Mexico

The first news of the Carrier lay-off was in the news before Trump even won the primary. The reason given was the US workers were paid $33 an hour and they could get the same work done in Mexico for $6.00. Being an old pencil pushing accountant, I knew those jobs were bound for Mexico, no matter what Trump said.

Watch what is going on in Arlington, Texas. GM has a plant there, the plant makes SUV and PU's. When Ann Richards was governor, GM announced plans to close the plant. Richards and Arlington officials went to Detroit and talked GM into keeping the plant open, At that time, it was the beginning of the SUV popularity. The plant tooled up and made SUV's and started running 32/7 shits to keep up with demand. This was a lucky move for Texas because of the SUV craze.

Now back behind that plant in Arlington, GM is building a huge 3 or 4 billion dollar plant that is going to stamp the metal bodies of cars and trucks. This is now done in Indonesia. GM has been working on this plant for at least 3 years. GM is buying up all the land in that area. Arlington is working on the streets around the GM plant getting ready for heavy truck traffic.

This is a big deal for Texas and most people don't even know about it. But I feel that Trump will try to take credit for bringing the work back to US, if so don't believe it, this has been in the works for 4 or 5 years.

[AgadorSparticus]

49. Dumbasses!! Thing is, they will be angry until he recant his special spell, "Hillary Obama"

And then they will forget that he broke a promise and they will turn around and blame Hillary and Obama. They deserve all of it. I don't feel sorry for them one bit.

[Doodley]

53. It helped Trump get elected. That's all he cares about.

[Squinch]

55. Gosh. Who could ever have known that he might lie!... Assholes.

[still_one]

56. I have zero sympathy for them

[Javaman]

58. the con artist and the yokels. nt

[Hestia]

59. This song always pops in my head when Drumpf + lies pops up

I wonder if there is something that keeps us from voting for the razzle dazzle when others fall for it hook, line & sinker

[Hestia]

60. From the movie

[Jakes Progress]

62. Hard to feel sorry for people that gullible and selfish.

[Amimnoch]

64. Sorry, I've got more important people to give my limited number of shits about.

The people who were smart enough not to vote against their own self interests are the only ones I give any fucks at all about.

Voted for Trump? fuck off.
Voted third party? fuck off.
Didn't vote? fuck off (excepting valid medical reasons of course).

Too many people who were smart enough to vote for Clinton in the GE will suffer for me to waste any energy at all feeling sorry for these fuckers.

[Alice11111]

68. 3rd party purists and their stupid antiquated rationale really

Pisses me off.

[WinkyDink]

65. "You knew I was a snake,......" (They GOTTA start teaching fables in school again!)

[Thinkingabout]

67. Just thinking how much Carrier received to leave jobs in the US, it cost the US money for Carrier to

move to Mexico.

[SCVDem]

69. Suckers!

How many people did you say were full of crap after they told you this would happen?

No unemployment payments for you either! The rich needs their tax breaks.

[Scalded Nun]

70. No sense trying to be a good Christian about this

They need to be the first to lose their jobs and the first to die. Well, maybe their family members can die first. They need to lose their homes. They need to go hungry. They need to experience the pain that the worship of false idols brings.

I am sick of hearing how they feel betrayed. They knew what Trump would bring to this country, they just did not count on it being brought to them.

They allowed a shroud to cover this country.

Fuck them.

[RhodeIslandOne]

72. Amen

The first lifeboats go to those of us who never considered voting for a single second that diseased orangutan or any members of the shitbag Repubic party.

[Honeycombe8]

73. Everyone with a brain knew this at the time. He even claimed ...

to save more jobs than the co. was changing (temporarily).

As I recall, the union head said something about the lie, and Trump personally attacked him...unless that was a different company, a different "I saved the jobs!" situation.

[Blue_Tires]

75. Deal with it... They knew damn well what they were voting for

[Tatiana]

76. The kicker is they will keep voting Republican.

Well, this is what they deserve.

Wait until they find out the safety net has been gutted and there's no food stamps, TANF, Medicaid or other social programs to help them get back on their feet. Wonder if Hillary's offer of retraining to displaced workers looks good right about now? Eh, probably not.