Dean Heller of Nevada becomes fifth GOP senator to come out against health-care bill
Source: Washington Post
Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said Friday that he cannot support Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnells health-care bill without changes to it, becoming the fifth GOP senator to take that position since the bill was released on Thursday.
Heller, who is up for reelection in 2018, has expressed concerns about the way the measure addresses the future of Medicaid. The proposal would impose long-term federal spending cuts on the program.
I cannot support a piece of legislation that takes away insurance from tens of millions of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Nevadans, Heller said in a news conference held in his home state.
Nevada, like most states, expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/06/23/dean-heller-of-nevada-becomes-fifth-gop-senator-to-come-out-against-health-care-bill/
Forget the other 4. Possibly this guy + Murkowski + Portman. That's all one would need to kill this in the form it's in right now (more would be helpful but...).
Heller is up for re-election and we know that NV went blue and was successfully able to replace Reid with another Democrat.
Le Gaucher
(1,547 posts)The other 4 are bluffing
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)Heitkamp and Manchin cannot be relied on
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)(from WV) but then you have the questionable Manchin form there too. If anything, that whole Applachian area of WV is a textbook case of who needs affordable healthcare.
still_one
(92,435 posts)the right reasons like Midi aid cuts, among other things. The ones spewing it for the wrong reasons are attention seeking assholes who will cave in at the end
dalton99a
(81,635 posts)He needs the GOP money.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)You know, they love the limelight, these politicians. Rand Paul is enjoying his moment in the sun.
If he sees they have the votes to pass it, he'll stick to his guns. He's an Ann Raynd devotee and will seriously consider not voting for anything that gives subsidies to poor people. He doesn't even believe in civil rights...it should be legal to discriminate, if it's what people want to do.
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)Good presentation and analysis..Thank you
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)But I will of course still be working to defeat Heller in 2018.
Leith
(7,813 posts)All 3 NV reps (Kihuen, Rosen, Titus, all D), Senator Cortez Masto (D), governor Sandoval (R), plus some state reps & senators (I haven't looked them up) have all come out publicly asking him to vote 'no.'
What is he going to do when he gets back to DC and Congressional rethugs start working on him?
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Start out demanding double what you would be happy with and settle for half of you demand.
mopinko
(70,265 posts)till past 2020.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Saw pundit on tv explaining...once Medicaid is cut, even if it's to be partially cut for upcoming years, once it's cut, the states will start shutting it down, since it's being gutted.
Just like if you found out your cable company is shutting its doors a year from now, you probably wouldn't wait a year to shop for a new one. Many would switch now.
kimbutgar
(21,215 posts)The Democrats shou,d be running those ads in all states with rethug senators. Gopcare will hurt you and your family. Especially if you are poor or over 55 years.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Medicaid picks up all or part of the cost. Medicare does NOT pay for nursing homes if you're old.
Medicaid is the service that pays for home assistance a few hours a week, if you can live alone in your house, with a little occasional help. Otherwise, you would have to be institutionalized, so it's much cheaper to have home assistance a few hours a week.
Cruel bill. The Republicans just don't care. They really do not care.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)He and Collins came out with their own plan -- a plan to actually help fix the ACA rather than be death to everyone. Everything he has said indicates he won't support this bill, and the Medicaid rollback would cost 400,000 people in his state healthcare (10% of the state) -- and that's without even getting into the cuts to Medicaid.
I don't know if he will have the guts to stand up to the party, as this is his first term, but I wouldn't be shocked. Us in Indivisible LA is working hard.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)although depending on what that amendment is, they might lose Cruz & especially Lee (since Lee got in after blowing Bennett out of the water with massive teabagger momentum, which in turn scared Hatch into astroturf teabagging).
muriel_volestrangler
(101,385 posts)There'll be more Republican screwups by then, if they retain the Senate and the House (meaning Trump won't get impeached), for them to worry about. They'll get to put forward some face-saving amendment, instead.
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drray23
(7,638 posts)If mc connel can't get it passed before july recess, its dead. Public pressure will mount during the recess and pretty much sink that bill. Thats why they are trying to rush it.
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)pecosbob
(7,545 posts)The man has no sand...he'll vote for it, then we'll throw him out of office here in Nevada.
Marthe48
(17,044 posts)somebody just puts the old horses' heads in the beds and vote again in a week or 2 ? Like russia house did?
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)Otherwise they would probably end up waiting until after the July 4th recess and try to do it before the August recess (and perhaps do a conference version for both chambers during that time). They want to have it passed in both Houses by that August recess though.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)And say it's a good bill.
I know a few people like that.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)they will blame it on "Obamacare".
hibbing
(10,109 posts)It's what they've always wanted to do, SS and Medicare are next.
Peace
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)I am on my congressman's e-newsletter list and got the 1st one today. He said that he is on both the House Agriculture Committee and Nutrition subcommittee and indicated that they are in the process of working on the next iteration of the Farm Bill (which I believe will be up for FY19 - i.e., around October 2018). That "bill" (sortof a slang term since it will be a 5-year appropriations law), has been targeted by Drumpf. As we know, SNAP is in there as well as the National School Lunch Program and WIC, etc., plus the farm subsidies. So you can bet that SNAP, NSLP, WIC are goners.
wolfie001
(2,279 posts)I'm sure if they pass him enough of our taxpayer dollars, he'll come around. They collectively have no heart or soul.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)(most of the ones up in 2018 are D seats). So he probably will get massive amounts of money to keep the seat regardless of his vote.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)I expect she will have her staff review and make a decision.
Portman is under the gun because of Kasich's Medicaid expansion and opposition to the Medicaid proposals. A local Cleveland, OH TV station indicated that they (Portman and Gov. Kasich) "declined to back it".
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)FenwayDonkey
(68 posts)FakeNoose
(32,791 posts)You never know, he sure talks a big game.
This guy Heller should be commended for making an early announcement. He could have kept quiet but this gives other dissenters some hope. Also it's a big plus for the Democrats.
If McCain puts his vote where his mouth is, maybe we can beat this thing. In Pennsylvania we've got Senator Toomey who's probably in bed with the Russians. For sure he'll never buck the GOP party leadership.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)regardless of being pummeled by the constituents.
FakeNoose
(32,791 posts)We had our own Russian hacking going on PA last year - separate from the Trump doings.
I think Toomey is very beholden to the Russians for his seat in the Senate.
Now we're stuck with him for 5 1/2 years.
BumRushDaShow
(129,636 posts)When you had Democrats here win top state-level seats (AG & Treasurer & Auditor General) + gain control of the State Supreme Court, yet Clinton & McGinty lose - there's something wrong.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)self-preservation....the GOP senators up for reelection in 2020 better take note too
riversedge
(70,334 posts)vote if Mitch throws sweet carrots at him.