Putin Says Snowden Did Not Leak U.S. Data to Russia
Source: Newsweek
RUSSIAN PRESIDENT SAYS EDWARD SNOWDEN DID NOT LEAK U.S. INTELLIGENCE TO MOSCOW
BY DAMIEN SHARKOV ON 6/14/17 AT 1:32 PM
Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied that U.S. fugitive Edward Snowden, who is currently living in Russia, ever offered to hand Moscow sensitive information in exchange for asylum.
We made first contact with Mr. Snowden in China, Putin said, reflecting on Snowdens departure from the U.S. following his leak of tens of thousands of National Security Agency and British Government Communications Headquarters documents in 2013. The Russian president was speaking to U.S. filmmaker Oliver Stone for his four-part documentary series for Showtime called The Putin Interviews.
Thats when we were told that there is this person who wants to fight for human rights and against their violation. And we need to give credit to Mr. Snowden. He never took it upon himself to give us any kind of information, Putin said.
However, Putin told Stone that Russia was not prepared to welcome Snowden at first. We have such complicated relations with the U.S., and we dont need additional complications, the Russian president explained. According to Putin, Snowdens arrival in Moscow came as a surprise to the Kremlin, as it was initially only intended as a transit flight to Latin America.
Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/russian-president-edward-snowden-did-not-leak-us-intelligence-moscow-625693
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,057 posts)pandr32
(11,625 posts)From Putin's lips...must be the real scoop...true or not, if Putin says so...
brooklynite
(94,768 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)cstanleytech
(26,332 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The third parties were Poitras, Greenwald and reporters at The Guardian and The Washington Post (Barton Gellman), who won the Pulitzer prize for stories written based on the data package Snowden provided.
cstanleytech
(26,332 posts)that Snowden gave nothing to the Russians.
dalton99a
(81,635 posts)MFM008
(19,823 posts)We should believe him.
Just like when he says Russia
Never interfered in election......
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Igel
(35,362 posts)C Moon
(12,221 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)He's like that playground bully who says "Why do you keep hitting yourself?"
Hekate
(90,848 posts)President Obama had his number -- remember the stare-down?
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Figure what they say is opposite of what they do
MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)Russia ---> Wikileaks
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)For those keeping score (like me), that's just one more piece of Snowden's official hero worship origin story exposed as a lie...
At what point do Snowden and Greenwald just tear it up and create another origin story? Because the current one has way too many *documented* holes to stand on its own...
WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)to Russia.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)He and Trump both deserve projectionist of the year awards.
Midnight Writer
(21,816 posts)Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)politicat
(9,808 posts)It's good to remember that carefully worded truths are more effective than lies when it comes to propaganda and espionage. Putin is a good enough spy to know and exploit a truth when it serves his purposes.
Snowden himself did not carry any of the data on his flight from Hong Kong. He had turned over the drive to Greenwald and Poitras, and it had been uploaded. What he knew at that point was published, and he has been consistent that he doesn't know anything that wasn't published. That was one of his goals - to reduce his risk of being a target. (Didn't work.)
But that data was published. It was available. Russia didn't need Snowden for access.
We need to remember that Snowden is probably not in Moscow voluntarily. He was in transit on the Saturday, scheduled to transfer to a flight to Cuba, then to Ecuador, when the State Department cancelled his passport. (They tried to cancel the passport on Friday, before he left Hong Kong, and screwed it up.) Don't let this go down the memory hole. He got stuck there because technically, he is now stateless, like that poor guy who got stuck in the Paris airport for 26 years. But Moscow was complicit in this -- they had the choice to let him continue and make Snowden either Cuba or Ecuador's problem -- and they chose not to do so. There aren't a lot of direct flights from Hong Kong to South America at all. (He should have hitched passage on one of the dozens of container ships leaving HK every day, but that's several weeks at sea and very few people under age 60 think of water travel for crossing oceans. Pity.)
There's a lot to criticize about Snowden and his decisions, but given the Drake and Crane cases, I don't think he had any better choices. We have a problem with whistleblowers. We treat them like the problem, not what they're reporting, and that's stupid. We make it impossible to report wrongdoing by our own agencies, and our own government's actions are consistent -- don't fix the problem, do destroy the messenger. But in this case, the State Department decision made a bad situation worse. When State failed in Hong Kong, they shouldn't have re-issued that cancellation, because doing so handed him to an unreliable frenemy (Russia, at the time), or a declared enemy at the time (Cuba). They should have waited until he was in Ecuador and then negotiated.
References: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-passport-idUSBRE95M0CW20130623
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-source-nsa-leaker-snowden-s-passport-revoked
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/world/asia/nsa-leaker-leaves-hong-kong-local-officials-say.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/how-pentagon-punished-nsa-whistleblowers
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The facts, unfortunately, do not matter to many.
pecosbob
(7,545 posts)Donald says he's okay with it.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)tazkcmo
(7,303 posts)If you say so Vlad,I believe you. Not.
orangecrush
(19,633 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Putin said it; it must be true.
This alone should put at rest the Snowden worship here on DU.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The whole lot of them are Russian agents.
Putin says...?
I believe the opposite unless there's a compelling reason not to.
truthisfreedom
(23,159 posts)Why would he think that anybody in the US believes anything he says?