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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 03:51 PM Jun 2017

Trump Neglects LGBTQ Community in Pulse Tribute

Source: Newsweek



BY JASON LE MIERE ON 6/12/17 AT 2:51 PM

President Donald Trump paid tribute Monday to the 49 people who lost their lives at the gay nightclub Pulse a year ago in what was the deadliest mass shooting in United States history. But missing from his tweet was any mention of the LGBTQ community targeted in the Orlando, Florida, attack.

“We will NEVER FORGET the victims who lost their lives one year ago today in the horrific #PulseNightClub shooting. #OrlandoUnitedDay,” he tweeted.




The message was a contrast to other commemorations of those who were killed by Omar Mateen, who pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group (ISIS). According to his father, Mateen committed the atrocity after becoming enraged at the sight of two men kissing.

“My heart is with the loved ones of the 49 people killed at Pulse, the city of Orlando, & the LGBT community,” read a tweet from Trump’s 2016 election rival Hillary Clinton. “#WeWillNotLetHateWin.”

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/pulse-nightclub-trump-lgbt-community-624558
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Trump Neglects LGBTQ Community in Pulse Tribute (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
Rings hollow and sounds like his Holocaust Memorial statement. Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #1
When he was the nominee... Behind the Aegis Jun 2017 #2
I had totally forgotten trumps tweets. irisblue Jun 2017 #3
to be honest, i'm shocked that he even mentioned it, in some kind of sympathetic way. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #4
This isn't accidental. He did the same thing with his Holocaust statement in Feb. Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #5
In part. Igel Jun 2017 #8
Hillary tweeted about Pulse. Trump tweeted about his daughter making a TV appearance. riversedge Jun 2017 #6
Kicking irisblue Jun 2017 #7

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
1. Rings hollow and sounds like his Holocaust Memorial statement.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jun 2017

He, IMO, purposely leaves out the affected minority group, and adds insult to injury.

This....THIS...is how a REAL president responds:


Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
2. When he was the nominee...
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jun 2017

Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, said Obama was far too timid in his White House appearance. Trump called on Obama to step down from the presidency and challenged Clinton to ratchet up her language about terror threats.

"President Obama disgracefully refused to even say the words 'Radical Islam,'" Trump said in the statement. "For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words 'Radical Islam' she should get out of this race for the Presidency."

Trump's campaign canceled a planned rally Monday in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, "due to the horrific tragedy that has just taken place in Orlando, Florida," a campaign statement said. But the candidate will pivot the focus of a scheduled Granite State speech the same day. The speech will no longer focus on what Trump has called a litany of scandals involving Bill and Hillary Clinton. Now, according to a Trump campaign statement, it will "address this terrorist attack, immigration, and national security."

Trump initially responded to news of the shooting through a series of tweets, including one that noted his early condemnation of radical Islam.

"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/politics/orlando-shooting-obama-political-reaction/

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
5. This isn't accidental. He did the same thing with his Holocaust statement in Feb.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 05:13 PM
Jun 2017

In both cases, it's an attempt to remove references to the suffering of a particular group, thereby undercutting that group's legitimate claim for greater protection.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
8. In part.
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 10:55 AM
Jun 2017

But to mention Jews and none others leaves them out. We already have one group slighted by not being mentioned explicitly. In previous years, others stood in line for that indignity.

The Roma claim it as their holocaust, even though their dead in the German camps didn't reach 500k.

LGBT claim it as their holocaust. I've heard competing claims, some ludicrous, but most reasonable figures are from 15-50k.

Neither get close to 6 million.

But there were 3 million Poles killed. 2-3 million Soviet POWs, mostly Russian, but disproportionately Ukrainian. Throw in the half million Serbs and some Slovenes, and Slavs are up there with Jews in number of German death-camp victims. But these groups all pale when you consider the sheer number of Russians killed, not in death camps.

That's not including a quarter million disabled, there because they were disabled and therefore inferior; the Jehovah's witnesses, there because they weren't proper Xians; or the indeterminate number of Masons, 100 to 200k, killed because Masons are out for a one-world government and can't be trusted.

Jews were a plurality, not a majority. At the cost of being cynical, their place in the death camps, while large, was in part made almost exclusive because of the need to establish a homeland for Jews and defend it at all costs. The other reason, arguably, is that it had such a huge impact, wiping out most European Jewry after centuries of persecution, and played on sensibilities involving guilt and some sort of "sins of the fathers"--esp. since the US under FDR turned away at least one Jewish refugee ship. The same could be said for the Roma, though, a huge impact after centuries of persecution. I doubt that their experiences were any less horrific than what I've heard told about Jews in the concentration camps.

Why leave out the JWs, just because they have such small numbers? Did they suffer less? Why argue for including Roma and LGBT, when there are larger groups like Poles, who not only suffered under Russia, then under Germany, but suffered again under the USSR?

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
6. Hillary tweeted about Pulse. Trump tweeted about his daughter making a TV appearance.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 06:31 PM
Jun 2017

X-posted


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029192502#post14











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Thank you Hillary for remembering this American horror day.






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Tony Posnanski?Verified account @tonyposnanski 1h1 hour ago

Replying to @HillaryClinton

I'm glad a true leader said this. Thank you.
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Jay Franzone?Verified account @JayFranzone 1h1 hour ago

Replying to @HillaryClinton

Hillary tweeted about Pulse.

Trump tweeted about his daughter making a TV appearance.

We had a choice.








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