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mucifer

(23,550 posts)
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 09:22 AM Jun 2017

Israel Successfully Hacked ISIS Computers; Trump Leaked It to the Russians

Source: Haaretz

The source of the classified intelligence that U.S. President Donald Trump shared with Russian officials in May was information Israel obtained after hacking computers belonging to ISIS, the New York Times reported Monday.

According to the Times, which cited a U.S. official, Israeli "cyberoperators" managed to penetrate an ISIS cell of bombmakers based in Syria a number of months ago.

According to the report, the information was so good that it allowed the United States to learn that the terror cell was working on explosives that could fool airport security by passing as a laptop battery.



Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.795260

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Israel Successfully Hacked ISIS Computers; Trump Leaked It to the Russians (Original Post) mucifer Jun 2017 OP
He is a security risk. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #1
that will never happen. His ego rules his behavior. riversedge Jun 2017 #10
He is not to be trusted to head our country. He is either a traitor or a fool. The Wielding Truth Jun 2017 #53
So much for that useful source. n/t QC Jun 2017 #2
his need to steal someone else's accomplishment and brag overwhelmed any need to protect the luvMIdog Jun 2017 #3
Couldn't Israel just ask Saudi or our other allies backing ISIS for the info? yurbud Jun 2017 #4
Saudi is pointing fingers at Qatar IronLionZion Jun 2017 #12
they and Saudi seem to cooperate under the table from time to time yurbud Jun 2017 #29
No analyst of which I am aware . . FairWinds Jun 2017 #34
good links, thank you... druidity33 Jun 2017 #39
Mossad must be pissed. GeorgeGist Jun 2017 #5
Losing support from Mossad and pro-Israel folks should be his downfall IronLionZion Jun 2017 #13
Religious right is so pro Israel bobbieinok Jun 2017 #24
God never did anything to Germany's Nazis. Every bit of punishment they got BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2017 #45
Sweet Gymbo Jun 2017 #6
That arrogant fool is going to get us all killed. OregonBlue Jun 2017 #7
Amen to that! BarbD Jun 2017 #30
That COULD have been leftynyc Jun 2017 #8
What does it take? Maxheader Jun 2017 #9
I wonder that frequently. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2017 #46
Isn't that grounds for impeachment or prosecution right there!?!?!? Coventina Jun 2017 #11
he has the right as president to declassify whatever the ef he wants to mucifer Jun 2017 #43
Dear gawd! The GOP is intent on literally destroying this nation! Roland99 Jun 2017 #14
Exactly! They all are complicit... Duppers Jun 2017 #17
HOw funny Cryptoad Jun 2017 #15
They watch Faux News CentralMass Jun 2017 #27
And now ISIS knows. Igel Jun 2017 #16
Or do they? mr_lebowski Jun 2017 #25
Aid and comfort to the enemy... Blue Idaho Jun 2017 #18
Does anyone have a link to the original story in the NYT? Mountain Mule Jun 2017 #19
Good question. BarbD Jun 2017 #35
Here ya go leftynyc Jun 2017 #37
Thank you for that! Mountain Mule Jun 2017 #38
My fervent wish leftynyc Jun 2017 #40
When and how would that not be treasonous? dchill Jun 2017 #20
Now I know for sure that aliens never landed at Area 51 because there's no way in hell catbyte Jun 2017 #21
Jesus H Christ in a Chariot-Driven Sidecar Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #22
If he isn't guilty of collusion, then why on earth would he be so chummy with Russia? C Moon Jun 2017 #23
K&R. dchill Jun 2017 #26
Thousands of IS come from Russias outback wild lands. Turkeys airport bombers had Russian passports. Sunlei Jun 2017 #28
Dear God orangecrush Jun 2017 #31
This is treason for sure...take him down NOW!!! Pauldg47 Jun 2017 #32
Nice job D**kbrain. Rustyeye77 Jun 2017 #33
Bibi knew this and gave Trump the red carpet treatment LeftInTX Jun 2017 #36
he wants money from us for Israel that's the way he gets it. mucifer Jun 2017 #44
No doubt our intel people are never going to share truthisfreedom Jun 2017 #41
Expect that sort of thing to happen. lpbk2713 Jun 2017 #42
that was easy bora13 Jun 2017 #47
Trump probably WANTS the terror cell to succeed MrPurple Jun 2017 #48
+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #50
K 'n R Jim Dandy Jun 2017 #49
mucifer saidsimplesimon Jun 2017 #51
Do we need any more proof that Trump is owned by Russia? Botany Jun 2017 #52

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
1. He is a security risk.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jun 2017

Dammit. This isn't even *his* accomplishment. He needs someone to turn down and break off the "boast" knob.

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
3. his need to steal someone else's accomplishment and brag overwhelmed any need to protect the
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 09:34 AM
Jun 2017

information. I'm quite sure we do not have a secret left except those the intelligence may have had the smarts to hide from him

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
12. Saudi is pointing fingers at Qatar
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:12 AM
Jun 2017

hoping we won't notice they're also guilty.

No, I don't believe Israel shares intel with any Arab countries.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
13. Losing support from Mossad and pro-Israel folks should be his downfall
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:14 AM
Jun 2017

I hope. He's done so many outrageous things already and has so many enemies. It shouldn't be long.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
24. Religious right is so pro Israel
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jun 2017

They lambasted Obama for 'not supporting Israel' at the least little
thing he did. They constantly quote a verse in Genesis?? that has
God saying he will punish those who harm or do not totally support the
Jews. Yet rightwingwatch.com has numerous instances of the religious
right claiming Trump is God's 'anointed one' and those who oppose
Trump are ruled by Satan!!!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
45. God never did anything to Germany's Nazis. Every bit of punishment they got
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 08:09 PM
Jun 2017

Was by human means.
And the karma of being really horrible people. Maybe they'll come back as hagfish.

Gymbo

(133 posts)
6. Sweet
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 09:43 AM
Jun 2017

So a source that at some point may have prevented another 9/11, or a downed airliner, was compromised by Donald Trump. The man hasn't a clue.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
9. What does it take?
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jun 2017

To turn the heads of the donny bots?
Without their support on eliminating our
country of the infestation...don't think
it will happen..Impeachment? Don't
think so. Congress won't support that.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
46. I wonder that frequently.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 08:12 PM
Jun 2017

At the end of WWII as the Allies rode through Berlin, there were still some people amidst the devastation, waving little swastika flags.

Some people will never see the light. In this lifetime, anyway.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
11. Isn't that grounds for impeachment or prosecution right there!?!?!?
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jun 2017

Just as an aside: Comparing Trump to Obama

Obama: attended the White House Correspondents' Dinner, looking relaxed, friendly, and cracking wise, all while he had a plan in motion for the imminent capture/kill of Osama Bin Laden. He was sitting on the biggest event since the Twin Towers fell, but you never would have guessed it.

Trump: Prancing around the Oval Office, showing it off to his Russian overlords for the first time, can't resist blabbing SOMEONE ELSE'S critical success to them, right off the bat.



No, there's no double standard when it comes to Trump. None at all.

Thank you Mr. Obama, for doing your job excellently for 8 years. This bozo couldn't even do it for 8 weeks.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
15. HOw funny
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

All Trumps Ridge Running Supporters can't figure out why he is being called "Comrade Trump"!

Igel

(35,320 posts)
16. And now ISIS knows.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 10:40 AM
Jun 2017

Unless we really think that Russia is allied with ISIS.

I guess it's worth ISIS knowing for us to know even more details about the background of the information Trump shared with Lavrov. Although the reports about what was actually told to Lavrov didn't include the source, and later that level of specificity was denied. And the first reports said there was somebody on the ground with ISIS, meaning they'd be looking for some spy among them. Sadly, they now know they don't need to do that; hopefully they identified a bunch of suspicious non-spies and disposed of them.

Presumably the next wave of added detail will include the names of the hackers and the IP addresses they used and targeted. Now they know to upgrade their cybersecurity.

On the other hand, at least we know more about the reasons for the kinds of on-board technology bans that people objected to a few months ago, and the likely context in which the classified information was shared. The ones that were dismissed as baseless paranoia. If we'd listened to those people's calls for evidence and why they were put in place, the NYT would have had the story months before Lavrov's visit. "We've instituted these bans." "Why?" "Because ..."

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
25. Or do they?
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jun 2017

This story could be a plant to try to save the life & limb of an asset in the group by throwing ISIS off the trail, couldn't it?

Though you'd think I suppose if that were the case this 'info' would've come out much sooner after Dump's blabbing.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
19. Does anyone have a link to the original story in the NYT?
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jun 2017

This is very dire. I'd like to see what the Times actually reported. I checked and couldn't find anything in today's online issue.

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
35. Good question.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jun 2017

I couldn't find anything in the Times either. Still, whatever he said to Russia must have been a doozy.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
37. Here ya go
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 02:04 PM
Jun 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/world/middleeast/isis-cyber.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0


Even one of the rare successes against the Islamic State belongs at least in part to Israel, which was America’s partner in the attacks against Iran’s nuclear facilities. Top Israeli cyberoperators penetrated a small cell of extremist bombmakers in Syria months ago, the officials said. That was how the United States learned that the terrorist group was working to make explosives that fooled airport X-ray machines and other screening by looking exactly like batteries for laptop computers.

It was also part of the classified intelligence that President Trump is accused of revealing when he met in the Oval Office last month with the Russian foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, and the ambassador to the United States, Sergey I. Kislyak. His disclosure infuriated Israeli officials.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
38. Thank you for that!
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jun 2017

The NYT article was much more comprehensive. It's good (actually REALLY bad) to know what is going on. I have been calling Dumpf a Traitor from day one. I have yet to see anything that proves me wrong and much that has proven me right. We must get rid of that creature and the sooner, the better.



 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. My fervent wish
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jun 2017

is for the special counsel to explode with bad news for donnie around 9/18 - just in time for the midterms (I have no desire for a pres pence). Then Dems can take over congress, make sure no judges get confirmed, investigate donnie at their leisure and get ready for 2020.

catbyte

(34,403 posts)
21. Now I know for sure that aliens never landed at Area 51 because there's no way in hell
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jun 2017

that Loose Lips Donny could ever keep that one confidential.

What a goddamned clusterfuck. And Ryan & McConnell keep making excuses for his treason. they're worse than he is because they know better, but it's more important to keep their useful idiot in place than it is to protect our national security. It's unconscionable.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
28. Thousands of IS come from Russias outback wild lands. Turkeys airport bombers had Russian passports.
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jun 2017

The first IS, that convoy of brand new trucks came out of Iran a country who is Russias good buddy.

Mr. Trump your loose lips sink ships, aid the enemy, kill innocents and are reckless with our military's safety on the 'battlefields'.

IMO.

LeftInTX

(25,382 posts)
36. Bibi knew this and gave Trump the red carpet treatment
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jun 2017

The meeting with the Russians happened before Trump's trip. Several days after the meeting, it was publicly known that Trump was spreading classified info from Israel. I knew that it had to do with laptops.

Trump justified the conversation as helping Russia fight ISIS.

Bibi still treated Trump like a king.

Bibi knew this.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
48. Trump probably WANTS the terror cell to succeed
Mon Jun 12, 2017, 08:45 PM
Jun 2017

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Stupidity and boasting is the kindest explanation for what Trump did. A more calculating one would be far more sinister, if he wants the terror cell to avoid detection and have successful attacks. Then, he can blame it on the left for opposing his Muslim bans and use the hysteria to seize more power.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
52. Do we need any more proof that Trump is owned by Russia?
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:39 AM
Jun 2017

That act will get people killed.

Treason.

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