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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 10:05 PM May 2017

Sanders Dismisses Burlington College Allegations As Political

Source: VT Digger

BURLINGTON — In a rare interview with local media, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., dismissed as politically motivated “nonsense” the notion that his office pressured a bank to approve a loan for a college operated by his wife.

Sanders was asked by WCAX on Friday about allegations from Vermont GOP Vice Chair Brady Toensing that Sanders’ Senate office pressured People’s United Bank to grant the $6.7 million loan Jane Sanders secured as Burlington College president.

The college used that loan to purchase of a lakefront campus in 2010. Burlington College closed last year under the “crushing weight” of debt incurred in that land deal.

Toensing sent a letter to the U.S. attorney for Vermont and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation calling for a probe into whether Jane Sanders committed fraud by overstating pledged donations used to secure the loan. The Justice Department has been investigating the college, according to documents, donors and former employees.

Read more: https://vtdigger.org/2017/05/09/sanders-dismisses-burlington-college-allegations-political/

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Sanders Dismisses Burlington College Allegations As Political (Original Post) TomCADem May 2017 OP
I don't think so. She appears to be a horrible manager. redstatebluegirl May 2017 #1
This investigation began last year. RandySF May 2017 #2
Why is Jane Sanders being personally investigated instead of the College as a "Corporation"? mackdaddy May 2017 #3
You posted this in another thread shenmue May 2017 #4
Was it a for-profit university? 7962 May 2017 #5
Colleges are governed by boards of trustees. QC May 2017 #8
Right -- but the President, not the Board of Trustees, is in charge of managing the paperwork. pnwmom May 2017 #12
She can't find the paperwork for the college, either? Cha May 2017 #15
They have paperwork but not for the questioned donations that she claimed to have. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #16
Yes I posted this question before, and I still have not seen an answer to this either. mackdaddy May 2017 #9
I was on a board and I would have been personally liable if I'd been involved in wrongdoing pnwmom May 2017 #13
See Exhibit A at the following link where signatures of Jane Saners & Burlington's CFO appear . . . Petrushka May 2017 #20
I think it's on her as the President and on the rest of the Board of Trustees. pnwmom May 2017 #11
Did Burlington's chief financial offcer have any responsibility in managing loan paperwork? Petrushka May 2017 #21
Probably. And the former CFO has been cooperating in the investigation. pnwmom May 2017 #22
There's a paragraph in your post that I keep coming back to because something about it . . Petrushka May 2017 #23
Because she is the one Rincewind May 2017 #14
Lies on the application she filled out Bradical79 May 2017 #18
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #6
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #7
It sounds like he knows a lot about politically motivated nonsense. nt R B Garr May 2017 #10
Bullshit. JTFrog May 2017 #17
in wisconsin our attorney general does walkers bidding....political witch hunts are possible dembotoz May 2017 #19
It wouldn't make much sense for a Republican Governor who squeaked into office with 52% of the vote pnwmom May 2017 #24

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. I don't think so. She appears to be a horrible manager.
Tue May 9, 2017, 10:12 PM
May 2017

With that said, as tired as I am of Bernie, i don't think this is something we need to be arguing about here with the republic in danger.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
3. Why is Jane Sanders being personally investigated instead of the College as a "Corporation"?
Tue May 9, 2017, 10:21 PM
May 2017

Several massive banks have been found guilty of laundering drug cartel money and the "Corporation" gets there wrist slapped. None of the bank executives who knowingly authorized this behavior were ever touched.

Now this College which is some sort of corporation, is being investigated for not being precisely accurate, on a loan application for outside unwritten promises for donations. And this is all on Jane Sanders?

How many loans did the Trumpster lie on, and how many are under FBI investigation?

QC

(26,371 posts)
8. Colleges are governed by boards of trustees.
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:06 PM
May 2017

Presidents can't do much without their consent; even granting tenure to a professor typically requires a vote of the board.

I suspect that's what mackdaddy was referring to.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
12. Right -- but the President, not the Board of Trustees, is in charge of managing the paperwork.
Reply to QC (Reply #8)
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:04 AM
May 2017

And one of the problems seems to be that the college can't locate the paperwork they need to document some of the large donations they listed on the loan documents.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
15. She can't find the paperwork for the college, either?
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:08 AM
May 2017

Or is it just left to others to find it?

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
9. Yes I posted this question before, and I still have not seen an answer to this either.
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:14 PM
May 2017

Non-Profit Corporations are still corporations too. All forms of corporations are separate entities in themselves.

It is still a big deal to "pierce the corporate veil" and go after individual corporate officers. I am a one person LLC business, and my business actions are still to a great degree separated from my personal affairs.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. I was on a board and I would have been personally liable if I'd been involved in wrongdoing
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:06 AM
May 2017

that damaged someone.

People and non-profits can buy liability insurance to cover things like that.

The reason Jane might be singled out is that the loan documentation was prepared under her direction. She showed it to the Board of Trustees and then sent it to the bank. If she listed non-existent donations, then she'd be responsible for that. One donor says she told Jane that she'd pledge a bequest after her death -- of an unspecified amount -- but that her name ended up being listed with a multi-year gift (not bequest) in the total amount of $1 million.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
20. See Exhibit A at the following link where signatures of Jane Saners & Burlington's CFO appear . . .
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:23 AM
May 2017

. . . on a loan document identifying Burlington as a corporation.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/295215742/Toensing-Wilton-Letter-to-U-S-Attorney-Miller


P.S.
Although I don't have an answer to your question, I believe it deserves repeating at every opportunity.


All best!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
11. I think it's on her as the President and on the rest of the Board of Trustees.
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:01 AM
May 2017

As the President, she was responsible for managing the loan paperwork and reporting to the board. So she is responsible for that.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
21. Did Burlington's chief financial offcer have any responsibility in managing loan paperwork?
Fri May 12, 2017, 02:17 AM
May 2017

Last edited Fri May 12, 2017, 04:36 AM - Edit history (1)

I ask because, in addition to Jane Sanders' signature, the CFO's signature appears on a 2010 oan document (Exhibit A in the lst link below); and, coincidentally, that signature belongs to the person who succeeded Sanders as Burlington College president.

In 2014, It was reported by the VTDigger that, "Many faculty members say Plunkett has sacrificed the school’s mission in favor of a plan to sell half the campus to a real estate developer." Coincidence, perhaps? (See 2nd link)

(Also at 2nd link):
"Board of trustee meeting minutes from 2012 and 2013 show Plunkett urged board members to help her raise money by introducing her to their friends, neighbors and colleagues who might be potential donors.

"In an interview this week, however, the president said the college has abandoned fundraising and is focused only on enrollment.

“ 'The only, only, only answer to our tight operating budget is to grow enrollment,' "she said. " "

So . . .
I agree with you when you say, "I think it's on her as the President and on the rest of the Board of Trustees." But, I'd include the CFO to the mix.


https://www.scribd.com/doc/295215742/Toensing-Wilton-Letter-to-U-S-Attorney-Miller

http://vtdigger.wpengine.com/2014/08/28/increased-enrollment-way-save-burlington-college-president-says/

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
22. Probably. And the former CFO has been cooperating in the investigation.
Fri May 12, 2017, 03:30 AM
May 2017

And so have other college employees.

But Jane was the one who was personally meeting with the people whose donations are now being questioned, and she signed the loan documentation that wrongly listed a bequest for an unknown amount at an unknown date as a million dollar gift to be given over 5 years.

https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2017/04/28/fbi-continues-to-investigate-jane-sanders-burlington-college-land-deal

Moore, who was Holm's boss at the time, was aware of the FBI's interest. She said it was clear from the start what the bureau was investigating: "Was there any collusion between Jane Sanders and the bank? Did she falsify records in order to get the loan from the bank?"

Holm said she provided the FBI a filing cabinet and three or four banker boxes filled with donor files. At the bureau's request, she searched email accounts that previously belonged to O'Meara Sanders and Christine Plunkett, who served as O'Meara Sanders' chief financial officer and then succeeded her as president. Holm said she transferred those and other electronic files to a hard drive provided by the FBI.

Asked if she found anything noteworthy in O'Meara Sanders' emails, Holm said, "I prefer not to comment on that."

While searching for information to aid the FBI's investigation, Holm said she had been "unsuccessful in locating documentation of the gifts and pledges" O'Meara Sanders represented in the loan application she signed.

https://vtdigger.org/2017/05/04/burlington-college-donor-says-never-signed-pledge/


“I remember Jane asking if I would sign something, and I said, ‘I never sign anything. You’ll have to go through my accountant,’” Maietta said.

After writing Sanders a check, Maietta said she offered to leave the college something in her will. “I never told them how much, and I never signed anything. … It was all on my word,” she said.


SNIP

Richard Moss, Maietta’s longtime accountant, said he, too, recalled Burlington College officials urging Maietta to sign a pledge agreement.

“They wanted it all up front of course. I felt a lot of pressure to get it immediately. That’s their job. Bird in hand, you know?” Moss said.

Moss said he saw draft versions of an agreement but never a signed a document. “Certainly if I were a banker, I would have wanted to see the signed agreement,” he said.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
23. There's a paragraph in your post that I keep coming back to because something about it . .
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:34 AM
May 2017

. . . brought to mind something I read elsewhere, something that now evades me. Oh, well . . .

Here's the paragraph:

Moore, who was Holm's boss at the time, was aware of the FBI's interest. She said it was clear from the start what the bureau was investigating: "Was there any collusion between Jane Sanders and the bank? Did she falsify records in order to get the loan from the bank?"

Maybe I'll remember what it was I read elsewhere by doing a sorta mixed-up timeline, viz:

1. Holm wias hired by Burlington College in 2012 and, therefore, her initial boss would have been President Pluckett, former CFO when the land deal was made.

2. Moore became the college's president two years later, in 2014, after Pluckett resigned.

3. Moore said (somewhere in all of those links I bookmarked!) that she hadn't worked at the college before she was hired as its president.

4. In 2010, the year when the land deal was made, neither Holm nor Moore were employed by the college. Nor were they there when Sanders was president. (Sanders resigned in 2011.)

5. Yet . . . "Moore "...said it was clear from the start what the bureau was investigating: 'Was there any collusion between Sanders and the bank? Did she falsify records in order to get the loan from the bank.'" . . . as if it's possible for either Moore or Holm to give answers to such questions when they weren't even around when the land deal was made---there could be no answer except , "How should I know? I wasn't there."

6. Holm aided the FBI because she obviously had access to the loan documents and electronic files . .but she said her search for the documentation of the gifts and pledges was unsuccessful.

7. If I remember correctly, Holm is said to have turned over all the records she had to the FBI and, eventually, they were returned to the college. If tt the FBI didn't find documentation of the gifts and pledges in the college's files, isn't it possible they could be located in the bank's loan records? Wouldn't the bank have a documentation record in its files, considering such a record would have been part of the loan application?

8. And . . . wouldn't there be in the bank's files information related to the refinancing of the loan? Records dealing with the sale of 80% of the land purchased in 2010 to a real estate developer in 2015? The settlement with the Catholic Diocese?

9. 2016
January---Toensing complaint to US Attorney
February --Investigation begins
April ---bank pulls the plug (according to Moore, there would have been a surplus the following year if the bank had waited 3 months---new students enrolled.)
May ---College closes its doors.

10. #9 (above) is what came to mind when I read that paragraph in your post, this paragraph:

Moore, who was Holm's boss at the time, was aware of the FBI's interest. She said it was clear from the start what the bureau was investigating: "Was there any collusion between Jane Sanders and the bank? Did she falsify records in order to get the loan from the bank?"

Now, it leads me back to a Boston Globe article covering the college's closing. It seems that, on graduation day, everyone at the college but its students knew the doors were going to close in a couple days. It's interesting to note that, of all things, the real estate developer who ended up with 80% of the 2010 land purchase was given an honorary degree! So . . .

#9-a -- revision for May, 2016 --- Real estate developer, who knew a bargain when he saw one, receives honorary degree from college . . . and college closes its doors a couple days later.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/05/27/burlington-college-closes-under-unwanted-spotlight/vQcws7acOi4uuo8FtPresM/story.html
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It's an all-around sad state of affairs for everyone directly and indirectly hurt. But as I keep saying: "It'll all come out in the wash." . . . knowing dirt isn't all that comes out and sometimes there's a sock or two missing.

P.S.
If you've read this far, thank you for your time. No need to reply. I'm gonna try to stay away from this place for a few days and I've decided to go back to lurking-mode . . . lurking-mode being much less time-consuming. Besides: In this post, I've been simply thinking (and sorta writing) out loud . . . up all night while probably less than half-awake.


Rincewind

(1,203 posts)
14. Because she is the one
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:30 AM
May 2017

who lied on the loan application, and had her husband lean on the bank to grant the loan.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
18. Lies on the application she filled out
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:44 PM
May 2017

Unless she implicates others herself, there's no reason to go after anyone else. It's not difficult to understand.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
17. Bullshit.
Wed May 10, 2017, 08:53 AM
May 2017

Now let's have a discussion about hacking the DNC and hanging out with Putin's buddy Tad Devine.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
19. in wisconsin our attorney general does walkers bidding....political witch hunts are possible
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:43 PM
May 2017

don't doubt it for a minute.

this country has been generally immune from show trials
perhaps not anymore

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
24. It wouldn't make much sense for a Republican Governor who squeaked into office with 52% of the vote
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:42 AM
May 2017

to go on a political witch hunt against an Independent Senator who won over 71%.

And also he'd have to do some time-traveling because this investigation has been going on for a couple years and he just became Governor in January. (Shulim, the previous Governor, was a Democrat -- so he didn't go on a witch-hunt against Bernie either.)

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