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Judi Lynn

(160,540 posts)
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:05 PM Apr 2017

Donald Trump Jr. Is in Montana to Campaign and Kill Prairie Dogs

Last edited Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Associated Press

Donald Trump Jr. Is in Montana to Campaign and Kill Prairie Dogs
By Adam K. Raymond





Donald Trump Jr. will spend the next two days in Montana with Greg Gianforte, the Republican candidate for the U.S. House seat vacated by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke. Their schedule is packed with rallies, fundraisers, and pumping prairie dogs full of hot lead.

“As good Montanans, we want to show good hospitality to people,” Gianforte, a tech entrepreneur, told the AP. “What can be more fun than to spend an afternoon shooting the little rodents?”

For ranchers in Montana, shooting prairie dogs is more recreational target practice than a real hunt. They’re classified as “agricultural pests” in the state, the AP notes, though their numbers have been dropping in recent years. Still, it’s perfectly legal for a couple of millionaires to blow their furry limbs sky high with high-powered rifles.


Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/donald-trump-jr-is-in-montana-to-kill-prairie-dogs.html

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Donald Trump Jr. Is in Montana to Campaign and Kill Prairie Dogs (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2017 OP
Prairie dogs carry bubonic plague HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #1
Masturbation causes Blindness! Cryptoad Apr 2017 #4
Actually its a fact that some prairie dogs do carry the plague or to be more accurate the cstanleytech Apr 2017 #30
The Trumps are worse than the plague! denvine Apr 2017 #5
So they are actually saviors of mankind? Let us worship them. Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #6
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #9
Seriously? HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #19
With those who were promised reparations HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #20
Agent Orange Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #21
Weed is a gateway drug! truthisfreedom Apr 2017 #15
And you imagine protecting the human race is the reason for these Republicans' love of slaughtering Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #27
To be honest Judi I would think that the rationale thing would be to just stay away from cstanleytech Apr 2017 #31
So do squirrels, raccoons, lynx, bobcats and white-tailed deer. frogmarch Apr 2017 #33
It's called Rabbititis! longship Apr 2017 #34
What a bunch of sick fucks n/t Phoenix61 Apr 2017 #2
Whatta BadAsss,,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2017 #3
They are courageous enough to slaughter what other people value, respect for pets. Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #14
Prairie dog hunts: wealthy white guy "sport" of the worst kind. Paladin Apr 2017 #7
" " " " " MBS Apr 2017 #36
Donnie Jr. sells to someone? underpants Apr 2017 #8
It only attracts other perverts. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #28
We used to hunt prairie dogs on my uncles ranch near Miles City MT. He was an unusual rancher. brewens Apr 2017 #10
Trump Jr.'s prairie dog hunt in Montana prompts backlash Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #11
Any Democrats running for that seat? BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #12
Montana Democrats pick musician Rob Quist to run for U.S. House Ptah Apr 2017 #23
Terrific article. Sure hope he makes it. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #24
Thank you for the article! BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #37
Good to see there's a giant firewall between Donny's business and politics. rogue emissary Apr 2017 #16
It is that fucking attitude that wiped out more than half of the wolf population Doreen Apr 2017 #17
Really, I can't stand it Lulu KC Apr 2017 #18
he should enlist if he wants to shoot gunz, go fight ISIS...... /nt IcyPeas Apr 2017 #22
We rent from hay farmers in Colorado. bluedigger Apr 2017 #25
Rob Quist candidate for Montana......... turbinetree Apr 2017 #26
what a colossal piece of shit. Words fail me to describe the depth of loathing I have for catbyte Apr 2017 #29
I have no problem with the PD hunt SomethingNew Apr 2017 #32
Where would be be acceptable for the animals of this world to live if not where they were born? Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #35
If you can't see the difference between SomethingNew Apr 2017 #43
Are u Lost? Cryptoad Apr 2017 #39
If you don't love the prairie dog you are evil sarisataka Apr 2017 #41
Fun fact for PD lovers. SomethingNew Apr 2017 #42
Just to make you feel a little better, the weather hasn't been helpful... 2naSalit Apr 2017 #38
If they're anything like the ground squirrels in my garden, I can see why they're hated by farmers NickB79 Apr 2017 #40

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
30. Actually its a fact that some prairie dogs do carry the plague or to be more accurate the
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 01:59 AM
Apr 2017

fleas they carry have it and no, I'm not a hunter at all as I never understood the appeal that some seem to have for it

Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #1)

Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #13)

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
20. With those who were promised reparations
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:11 PM
Apr 2017

Following the war, Hanoi pursued the establishment of diplomatic relations with the United States, initially in order to obtain US$3.3 billion in reconstruction aid, which President Richard M. Nixon had secretly promised after the Paris Agreement was signed in 1973. Under Article 21 of the agreement, the United States had pledged "to contribute to healing the wounds of war and to postwar reconstruction of the DRV . . ." but had specifically avoided using terminology that could be interpreted to mean that reparations were being offered for war damages. Nixon's promise was in the form of a letter, confirming the intent of Article 21 and offering a specific figure. Barely two months after Hanoi's victory in 1975, Premier Pham Van Dong, speaking to the National Assembly, invited the United States to normalize relations with Vietnam and to honor its commitment to provide reconstruction funds. Representatives of two American banks—the Bank of America and First National City Bank—were invited to discuss trade possibilities, and American oil companies were informed that they were welcome to apply for concessions to search for oil in offshore Vietnamese waters.

Washington neglected Dong's call for normal relations, however, because it was predicated on reparations, and the Washington political climate in the wake of the war precluded the pursuit of such an outcome. In response, the administration of President Gerald R. Ford imposed its own precondition for normal relations by announcing that a full accounting of Americans missing in action, including the return of any remains, would be required before normalization could be effected. No concessions were made on either side until President Jimmy Carter softened the United States demand from a full accounting of MIAs to the fullest possible accounting and dispatched a mission to Hanoi in 1977 to initiate normalization discussions.

Judi Lynn

(160,540 posts)
21. Agent Orange
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:31 PM
Apr 2017

Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the British military during the Malayan Emergency and the U.S. military as part of its herbicidal warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam estimates 400,000 people were killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects as a result of its use.[7] The Red Cross of Vietnam estimates that up to 1 million people are disabled or have health problems due to Agent Orange.[8] The United States government has dismissed these figures as unreliable and unrealistically high.[9][10]

A 50:50 mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D, it was manufactured for the U.S. Department of Defense primarily by Monsanto Corporation and Dow Chemical. The 2,4,5-T used to produce Agent Orange was later discovered to be contaminated with 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzodioxin (TCDD), an extremely toxic dioxin compound. It was given its name from the color of the orange-striped 55 U.S. gallon (208 l) barrels in which it was shipped, and was by far the most widely used of the so-called "Rainbow Herbicides".[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Vietnam_relations

[center]The other Agent Orange so many US Americans completely ignore, also connected to the U.S. and your US/VietNam Wikipedia article.

Unbelievably graphic. Horrible:

https://www.searchlock.com/search?safe=&start=0&qn=&tbm=isch&sr=omniredir-google&q=Agent+Orange

Judi Lynn

(160,540 posts)
27. And you imagine protecting the human race is the reason for these Republicans' love of slaughtering
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 12:31 AM
Apr 2017

helpless tiny things?

It's amazing where people will turn for rationales.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
31. To be honest Judi I would think that the rationale thing would be to just stay away from
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 02:06 AM
Apr 2017

the prairie dogs due to the risk rather than grab a gun and try to show someone how manly I am by ambushing and blowing a little defenseless animals head off.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
33. So do squirrels, raccoons, lynx, bobcats and white-tailed deer.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 02:32 AM
Apr 2017

Let's shoot them all dead too.

Oh, and bunnies. They carry rabbit fever.

Judi Lynn

(160,540 posts)
14. They are courageous enough to slaughter what other people value, respect for pets.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:15 PM
Apr 2017

[center]

Prairie dogs visiting the beach.



Prairie dogs at their Prairie dog park.











Dried carrots!

[/center]

Paladin

(28,261 posts)
7. Prairie dog hunts: wealthy white guy "sport" of the worst kind.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:32 PM
Apr 2017

Not a bit surprised that Bwana trump jr. is getting off to such sick shit.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
36. " " " " "
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 05:51 AM
Apr 2017

Sick is right.

On this Earth Day, and also the day of the March for Science, it's sickening to think what this administration is doing to science and to our planet.


brewens

(13,588 posts)
10. We used to hunt prairie dogs on my uncles ranch near Miles City MT. He was an unusual rancher.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:43 PM
Apr 2017

He liked his prairie dog town and only thinned them out some to keep it from getting too big. I was there one year when some university, I think Pittsburgh, had a couple researchers set up camera's to see if they could spot any black footed ferrets. No luck, but it was a good place to look. It seemed pretty big to me, but it was joke compared to what there used to be.

I think that research they did all around that region led to the black footed ferrets being declared extinct, but they ended up finding some somewhere a couple years later.

Judi Lynn

(160,540 posts)
11. Trump Jr.'s prairie dog hunt in Montana prompts backlash
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:45 PM
Apr 2017

Trump Jr.'s prairie dog hunt in Montana prompts backlash
Matt Volz, Associated Press Updated 5:25 pm, Friday, April 21, 2017





A screenshot of an Instagram photo shows Donald Trump Jr. posing over a Blacktip shark in Palm Beach, Fla. on March 27, 2017.


. . . . .

The Humane Society of the United States condemned Trump's hunting plans, saying prairie dogs are an important species for the Great Plains.

More than 100 other animals depend on the prairie dog as food or move into the burrows they dig, said Lindsey Sterling Krank, the organization's director for its Prairie Dog Coalition.

Now is the time year when prairie dogs are still nursing their new offspring, meaning hunters who shoot lactating females are condemning the pups to starvation, Sterling Krank said.

"I would love to take Donald Trump Jr. out with a spotting scope and shoot the prairie dog with our cameras," Sterling Krank said. "Shooting a prairie dog colony is not a good conservation message."

More:
http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Trump-Jr-s-prairie-dog-hunt-in-Montana-prompts-11089920.php

Ptah

(33,030 posts)
23. Montana Democrats pick musician Rob Quist to run for U.S. House
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:50 PM
Apr 2017
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1062614

http://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/mt-democrats-pick-musician-rob-quist-to-run-for-us/article_ae4853b1-3b4b-565c-8769-6ddea049a7b8.html

Quist, who gained fame in the Mission Mountain Wood Band, hasn’t ever held elected office. When announcing his campaign, Quist touted years of public service including serving for 11 years on the Montana Arts Council and as a state ambassador to Montana’s sister state in Kumamoto, Japan. He advocated for the Montana Food Bank and received a grant from the Office of Public Instruction to create anti-bullying programs and art programs in public schools.

Quist said he’s traveled the state and understands what kind of representation Montanans need. He grew up in Cut Bank and now lives in the Flathead Valley. The musician received an endorsement from former Gov. Brian Schweitzer, who called Quist a political outsider who will stand up for Montana.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
17. It is that fucking attitude that wiped out more than half of the wolf population
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 08:02 PM
Apr 2017

in this country before they were put on the endangered species list. Now some assholes have taken them off and the slaughter is starting again. I feel really bad for the prairie dogs. I feel bad for ANY wild animal, insect, bird, fish, and anything else because trump and his team just gave them a death sentence. Humans are not the only ones they plan on putting to death but for us they want to keep us around a little longer because they need slaves.

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
18. Really, I can't stand it
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 08:04 PM
Apr 2017

Brink of war in several zones. PUTIN PUTIN PUTIN. Etc, etc, and so forth. I'd rather he'd just go golfing again. Sick.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
25. We rent from hay farmers in Colorado.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 12:00 AM
Apr 2017

Richie the hired hand told me he got 30 in the field behind the house the other day. He's got a special rifle for 'em and reloads his own ammo. Drives an old beater or a flatbed truck.



What, we ain't good enough for billionaires?

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
29. what a colossal piece of shit. Words fail me to describe the depth of loathing I have for
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 12:47 AM
Apr 2017

that worthless...fuck it.

SomethingNew

(279 posts)
32. I have no problem with the PD hunt
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 02:25 AM
Apr 2017

and I'd bet most people who do aren't from western states and certainly aren't from ranching families/communities. PDs are massive pests that carry diseases and dig holes that break the legs of livestock and horses. Nobody wants them on their land--for good reasons.

Judi Lynn

(160,540 posts)
35. Where would be be acceptable for the animals of this world to live if not where they were born?
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 05:12 AM
Apr 2017

Very similar to the "reasoning" used by European amoral monsters who thought it would be just fine to murder the First Americans whose land they wanted to steal.

sarisataka

(18,655 posts)
41. If you don't love the prairie dog you are evil
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 11:22 AM
Apr 2017

and a republican


I have gone on prairie dog hunts while visiting relatives in ND. The ranchers whose land we hunted on viewed the dogs as a mixed blessing. Their digging helped the soil to improve the quality of grazing but, as you pointed out, were a risk livestock. The two options for control were to shoot them or poison them. The ranchers we knew preferred shooting as predators usually scavenged the bodies and were encouraged to remain in the area, helping to rebalance the ecosystem. Poisoning simply creates a fauna desert.

SomethingNew

(279 posts)
42. Fun fact for PD lovers.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 01:03 PM
Apr 2017

It's not just predators that eat the bodies. When you shoot them, the disgusting little creatures all come out and start eating the dead ones.

2naSalit

(86,622 posts)
38. Just to make you feel a little better, the weather hasn't been helpful...
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 07:34 AM
Apr 2017

been raining and snowing here for the majority of the time Ouday has been here. There will be a respite today but crappy weather returns Saturday evening so their outings might be brief. And the wind, being it's own factor, has been pretty stout as well. And maybe any one of them is a marksman like darthcheney!

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
40. If they're anything like the ground squirrels in my garden, I can see why they're hated by farmers
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 10:05 AM
Apr 2017

I shot dozens of 13-striped ground squirrels a few years ago when they invaded my garden and set up a colony. It was partially my own fault; I was trying a low-till system that relied heavily on mulch to control weed growth instead of traditional tilling, and I ignored the signs of rodent activity until it was too late. All that mulch and no tilling allowed them to form a massive tunnel network.

I ended up losing a ton of my carrots, rutabagas, turnips and zucchini to them before I decided they had to go. I spent an entire summer sniping them from my upstairs windows with a high-powered air rifle before I finally wiped them out. And that was only in a 25'x50' vegetable garden. Like another poster stated, ranchers worry about losing livestock to prairie dogs from broken legs.

My suggestion for dealing with prairie dogs would be to expand the amount of protected land in their range (native prairie is almost extinct as a biome, and needs to be restored). There would be no hunting allowed here, and black-footed ferrets, their native predator, could be re-introduced as well.

Then, enact hunting seasons on prairie dogs living on private and hunting public lands, so that they can't be shot in the spring, when they're raising pups. A hunting license would generate income for further prairie dog protections.

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