Donald Trump Jr. Is in Montana to Campaign and Kill Prairie Dogs
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Source: Associated Press
Donald Trump Jr. Is in Montana to Campaign and Kill Prairie Dogs
By Adam K. Raymond
Donald Trump Jr. will spend the next two days in Montana with Greg Gianforte, the Republican candidate for the U.S. House seat vacated by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke. Their schedule is packed with rallies, fundraisers, and pumping prairie dogs full of hot lead.
As good Montanans, we want to show good hospitality to people, Gianforte, a tech entrepreneur, told the AP. What can be more fun than to spend an afternoon shooting the little rodents?
For ranchers in Montana, shooting prairie dogs is more recreational target practice than a real hunt. Theyre classified as agricultural pests in the state, the AP notes, though their numbers have been dropping in recent years. Still, its perfectly legal for a couple of millionaires to blow their furry limbs sky high with high-powered rifles.
Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/donald-trump-jr-is-in-montana-to-kill-prairie-dogs.html
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)fleas they carry have it and no, I'm not a hunter at all as I never understood the appeal that some seem to have for it
denvine
(800 posts)Should we shoot them?
Judi Lynn
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HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Have you seen my user name?
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HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Following the war, Hanoi pursued the establishment of diplomatic relations with the United States, initially in order to obtain US$3.3 billion in reconstruction aid, which President Richard M. Nixon had secretly promised after the Paris Agreement was signed in 1973. Under Article 21 of the agreement, the United States had pledged "to contribute to healing the wounds of war and to postwar reconstruction of the DRV . . ." but had specifically avoided using terminology that could be interpreted to mean that reparations were being offered for war damages. Nixon's promise was in the form of a letter, confirming the intent of Article 21 and offering a specific figure. Barely two months after Hanoi's victory in 1975, Premier Pham Van Dong, speaking to the National Assembly, invited the United States to normalize relations with Vietnam and to honor its commitment to provide reconstruction funds. Representatives of two American banksthe Bank of America and First National City Bankwere invited to discuss trade possibilities, and American oil companies were informed that they were welcome to apply for concessions to search for oil in offshore Vietnamese waters.
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Judi Lynn
(160,540 posts)Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the British military during the Malayan Emergency and the U.S. military as part of its herbicidal warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam estimates 400,000 people were killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects as a result of its use.[7] The Red Cross of Vietnam estimates that up to 1 million people are disabled or have health problems due to Agent Orange.[8] The United States government has dismissed these figures as unreliable and unrealistically high.[9][10]
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[center]The other Agent Orange so many US Americans completely ignore, also connected to the U.S. and your US/VietNam Wikipedia article.
Unbelievably graphic. Horrible:
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truthisfreedom
(23,147 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,540 posts)helpless tiny things?
It's amazing where people will turn for rationales.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)the prairie dogs due to the risk rather than grab a gun and try to show someone how manly I am by ambushing and blowing a little defenseless animals head off.
frogmarch
(12,153 posts)Let's shoot them all dead too.
Oh, and bunnies. They carry rabbit fever.
longship
(40,416 posts)Everybody knows that.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Judi Lynn
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Prairie dogs visiting the beach.
Prairie dogs at their Prairie dog park.
Dried carrots!
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Paladin
(28,261 posts)Not a bit surprised that Bwana trump jr. is getting off to such sick shit.
Sick is right.
On this Earth Day, and also the day of the March for Science, it's sickening to think what this administration is doing to science and to our planet.
underpants
(182,804 posts)I've never understood the allure of the "Trump brand".
Judi Lynn
(160,540 posts)brewens
(13,588 posts)He liked his prairie dog town and only thinned them out some to keep it from getting too big. I was there one year when some university, I think Pittsburgh, had a couple researchers set up camera's to see if they could spot any black footed ferrets. No luck, but it was a good place to look. It seemed pretty big to me, but it was joke compared to what there used to be.
I think that research they did all around that region led to the black footed ferrets being declared extinct, but they ended up finding some somewhere a couple years later.
Judi Lynn
(160,540 posts)Trump Jr.'s prairie dog hunt in Montana prompts backlash
Matt Volz, Associated Press Updated 5:25 pm, Friday, April 21, 2017
A screenshot of an Instagram photo shows Donald Trump Jr. posing over a Blacktip shark in Palm Beach, Fla. on March 27, 2017.
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The Humane Society of the United States condemned Trump's hunting plans, saying prairie dogs are an important species for the Great Plains.
More than 100 other animals depend on the prairie dog as food or move into the burrows they dig, said Lindsey Sterling Krank, the organization's director for its Prairie Dog Coalition.
Now is the time year when prairie dogs are still nursing their new offspring, meaning hunters who shoot lactating females are condemning the pups to starvation, Sterling Krank said.
"I would love to take Donald Trump Jr. out with a spotting scope and shoot the prairie dog with our cameras," Sterling Krank said. "Shooting a prairie dog colony is not a good conservation message."
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http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Trump-Jr-s-prairie-dog-hunt-in-Montana-prompts-11089920.php
BumRushDaShow
(129,010 posts)Ptah
(33,030 posts)http://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/mt-democrats-pick-musician-rob-quist-to-run-for-us/article_ae4853b1-3b4b-565c-8769-6ddea049a7b8.html
Quist, who gained fame in the Mission Mountain Wood Band, hasnt ever held elected office. When announcing his campaign, Quist touted years of public service including serving for 11 years on the Montana Arts Council and as a state ambassador to Montanas sister state in Kumamoto, Japan. He advocated for the Montana Food Bank and received a grant from the Office of Public Instruction to create anti-bullying programs and art programs in public schools.
Quist said hes traveled the state and understands what kind of representation Montanans need. He grew up in Cut Bank and now lives in the Flathead Valley. The musician received an endorsement from former Gov. Brian Schweitzer, who called Quist a political outsider who will stand up for Montana.
Judi Lynn
(160,540 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,010 posts)rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)in this country before they were put on the endangered species list. Now some assholes have taken them off and the slaughter is starting again. I feel really bad for the prairie dogs. I feel bad for ANY wild animal, insect, bird, fish, and anything else because trump and his team just gave them a death sentence. Humans are not the only ones they plan on putting to death but for us they want to keep us around a little longer because they need slaves.
Lulu KC
(2,565 posts)Brink of war in several zones. PUTIN PUTIN PUTIN. Etc, etc, and so forth. I'd rather he'd just go golfing again. Sick.
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Richie the hired hand told me he got 30 in the field behind the house the other day. He's got a special rifle for 'em and reloads his own ammo. Drives an old beater or a flatbed truck.
What, we ain't good enough for billionaires?
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)catbyte
(34,386 posts)that worthless...fuck it.
SomethingNew
(279 posts)and I'd bet most people who do aren't from western states and certainly aren't from ranching families/communities. PDs are massive pests that carry diseases and dig holes that break the legs of livestock and horses. Nobody wants them on their land--for good reasons.
Judi Lynn
(160,540 posts)Very similar to the "reasoning" used by European amoral monsters who thought it would be just fine to murder the First Americans whose land they wanted to steal.
SomethingNew
(279 posts)Native Americans and PDs, I can't help you.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)sarisataka
(18,655 posts)and a republican
I have gone on prairie dog hunts while visiting relatives in ND. The ranchers whose land we hunted on viewed the dogs as a mixed blessing. Their digging helped the soil to improve the quality of grazing but, as you pointed out, were a risk livestock. The two options for control were to shoot them or poison them. The ranchers we knew preferred shooting as predators usually scavenged the bodies and were encouraged to remain in the area, helping to rebalance the ecosystem. Poisoning simply creates a fauna desert.
SomethingNew
(279 posts)It's not just predators that eat the bodies. When you shoot them, the disgusting little creatures all come out and start eating the dead ones.
2naSalit
(86,622 posts)been raining and snowing here for the majority of the time Ouday has been here. There will be a respite today but crappy weather returns Saturday evening so their outings might be brief. And the wind, being it's own factor, has been pretty stout as well. And maybe any one of them is a marksman like darthcheney!
NickB79
(19,243 posts)I shot dozens of 13-striped ground squirrels a few years ago when they invaded my garden and set up a colony. It was partially my own fault; I was trying a low-till system that relied heavily on mulch to control weed growth instead of traditional tilling, and I ignored the signs of rodent activity until it was too late. All that mulch and no tilling allowed them to form a massive tunnel network.
I ended up losing a ton of my carrots, rutabagas, turnips and zucchini to them before I decided they had to go. I spent an entire summer sniping them from my upstairs windows with a high-powered air rifle before I finally wiped them out. And that was only in a 25'x50' vegetable garden. Like another poster stated, ranchers worry about losing livestock to prairie dogs from broken legs.
My suggestion for dealing with prairie dogs would be to expand the amount of protected land in their range (native prairie is almost extinct as a biome, and needs to be restored). There would be no hunting allowed here, and black-footed ferrets, their native predator, could be re-introduced as well.
Then, enact hunting seasons on prairie dogs living on private and hunting public lands, so that they can't be shot in the spring, when they're raising pups. A hunting license would generate income for further prairie dog protections.