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William769

(55,147 posts)
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 04:34 PM Apr 2017

Chechnya is torturing & killing gay men in secret concentration camps

Source: LGBTQ Nation

Reports from inside Chechnya reveal that more than 100 gay men detained in a recent “purge” are being held in a former military headquarters in the town of Argun, where witnesses say they were subjected to interrogations, violent torture, and fear that others who remain missing have been murdered.

An application for a Pride parade resulted in the crackdown, reports Novaya Gazeta, a Russian newspaper which interviewed three witnesses and survivors who said they were held in a secret prison set up in the town of Argun.

Describing it as a “concentration camp,” one man who was let go said officials subjected him to violent “interrogations” and attempted to get him to reveal the names and locations of other gay men. They seized his mobile phone then went after his contacts — even those who are not gay.

According to PinkNews, those detained are being tortured with electric shock and being violently beaten, and officials have held some for ransom to extort their families.



Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/04/chechnya-torturing-killing-gay-men-secret-concentration-camps/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Sendible&utm_campaign=RSS

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Chechnya is torturing & killing gay men in secret concentration camps (Original Post) William769 Apr 2017 OP
Jesus. redwitch Apr 2017 #1
Between LGBTQ, Women, African Americans and our friends south of the border trying to better William769 Apr 2017 #4
No matter that you are a white male. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #12
... William769 Apr 2017 #30
Please come out loud and strong. mountain grammy Apr 2017 #15
(((hugs)))) Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #16
Put away the white guilt. romanic Apr 2017 #17
Tell it! Loud and strong secondwind Apr 2017 #23
I'm right there with you bro... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #26
horrifying nt geek tragedy Apr 2017 #2
It's sad! atreides1 Apr 2017 #3
No trurer words spoken. William769 Apr 2017 #5
Chechnya follows Islamic law EL34x4 Apr 2017 #9
These same people supposedly "voted" for Putin to the tune of 107% ck4829 Apr 2017 #10
Not widespread, but you would find it here. roamer65 Apr 2017 #24
The difference is Fred Phelps' beliefs are fringe and not represented... EL34x4 Apr 2017 #31
Just awful. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #6
And to think we won't be able to get our government to do a damn thing about it. William769 Apr 2017 #7
Dirty bastards. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #8
this makes me so sad. barbtries Apr 2017 #11
This is what I keep thinking ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #14
FFS, what is wrong with this people. Horrific. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #13
But I thought there were no gay people in Chechnya. romanic Apr 2017 #18
Horrific. mountain grammy Apr 2017 #19
I am NOT surprised at ALL. BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #20
Horrid! brer cat Apr 2017 #21
Awful treestar Apr 2017 #22
Oh my god. How can this be happening? AgadorSparticus Apr 2017 #25
I hope this is an exaggeration for effect. Kablooie Apr 2017 #27
It's not melman Apr 2017 #28
Putin is very proud of you. nt William769 Apr 2017 #29
Kicking this. I don't want this to be forgotten. grossproffit Apr 2017 #32

redwitch

(14,946 posts)
1. Jesus.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 04:38 PM
Apr 2017

what a world we are living in. I am so despondent today, the news both personal and every other kind has been just awful. These poor people!

William769

(55,147 posts)
4. Between LGBTQ, Women, African Americans and our friends south of the border trying to better
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 04:47 PM
Apr 2017

themselves here, I am really ashamed to be a white male.

Some days I am just numb.

I have not posted here since our presidential election up until last week (that one really did me in to where I just crawled up underneath a rock in a fetal position).

sheshe2

(83,850 posts)
12. No matter that you are a white male.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 05:39 PM
Apr 2017

You are an ally and we all need to stand for each other.

It makes me sick at what is happening in Chechnya and to those here. We all need to RESIST...loudly.

Good to see you William.

mountain grammy

(26,642 posts)
15. Please come out loud and strong.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 06:16 PM
Apr 2017

We really need the voices of white men now. My husband speaks up whenever the occasion calls for it. Stick with us, white men, we are allies in this fight.

from a white woman (also carrying a bit of shame.)

Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)
26. I'm right there with you bro...
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 01:41 AM
Apr 2017

Now is the time for us liberal white guys to raise our voices, not that we're some sort of white champion, but we need to raise our voices in solidarity against those who are oppressing the voiceless. We must do that, or else we stand in the shadows complicit. Keep on keeping on and please keep posting!

atreides1

(16,089 posts)
3. It's sad!
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 04:45 PM
Apr 2017

But, it's also a warning that we should keep a close eye on the Russian(Republican)party...and their conservative evangelical allies!

Don't think for a moment that the religious right fanatics wouldn't be doing this very same thing if they can find a way! With Gorsuch now sitting on the SCOTUS, they might be able to reverse decisions and even get to build their camps!!!

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
9. Chechnya follows Islamic law
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 05:04 PM
Apr 2017

The people of Chechnya support this crackdown.

You would not find widespread support in the United States, even amongst conservatives, for torturing gays in concentration camps.

ck4829

(35,081 posts)
10. These same people supposedly "voted" for Putin to the tune of 107%
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 05:22 PM
Apr 2017
http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/03/06/chechen-precinct-gives-107-percent/

If he's not stopping this crackdown, then he's a part of it one way or another. And that in turn requires a response from all these people saying "what about..." and others saying we need to work with Russia to 'stop teh Islams'.
 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
31. The difference is Fred Phelps' beliefs are fringe and not represented...
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 05:01 PM
Apr 2017

...by any mainstream political platform. The Republicans do not want to murder gays in concentration camps. Neil Gorsuch will not render decisions on SCOTUS that will have gays tortured and murdered in concentration camps.

When people say, "Christians would do this here if they got a chance" they are diminishing the fact that these types of atrocities are truly taking place in other parts of the world --though by people who are neither Christian nor Republican. Almost exclusively, it is Muslims who are torturing and murdering gays, often with widespread support of the communities in which these horrors are being committed.

Never in a million years will I understand elements of the progressive Left's one-way solidarity with radical Islam.

barbtries

(28,810 posts)
11. this makes me so sad.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 05:32 PM
Apr 2017

it's 2017 for chrissakes. these fucking perverts, what do you care about someone else's sex life?!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
14. This is what I keep thinking
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 05:50 PM
Apr 2017

It's 2017! When we get toward the end of this century, historians are going to look back and say these were dark times indeed. That is, if we make it that long!

mountain grammy

(26,642 posts)
19. Horrific.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 06:49 PM
Apr 2017

first they came for the homosexuals.. wonder who's next. What can we do about this other than publicize it? My Congressman is a gay man. I'm going to send him this article.

BigDemVoter

(4,154 posts)
20. I am NOT surprised at ALL.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 06:55 PM
Apr 2017

Not even a little bit. And for the record, we have MILLIONS of these assholes here who would execute gays if they COULD. I have no illusions about this, as I know it's true.

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
27. I hope this is an exaggeration for effect.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 02:10 AM
Apr 2017

I'm sure some awful things are going on there but I'm skeptical of such a volatile claim in today's climate until there is more corroboration from different sources.
And different news articles can't be considered different sources automatically because so much news is not fact checked and still passed around from site to site.

I'm trying not to fall into the right wing trap of believing every horrifying story that is posted.

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