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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:51 PM Apr 2017

Steve Bannon Calls Jared Kushner a 'Cuck' and 'Globalist' Behind His Back

Source: The Daily Beast

Donald Trump’s chief strategist Stephen Bannon has called the president’s senior advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner a “cuck” and a “globalist” during a time of high tension between the two top aides, several Trump administration officials told The Daily Beast.


The fighting between Kushner and Bannon has been “nonstop” in recent weeks, according to sources who spoke on condition of anonymity. It’s been an “open secret” that Bannon and Kushner often clash “face-to-face,” according to senior officials.

...

"Steve thinks Jared is worse than a Democrat, basically," another official close to Bannon said. "[Steve] has a very specific vision for what he believes, and what he shares [ideologically] with Trump. And he has for a long time now seen [Jared] as a major obstacle to achieving that."

...

The Times also reported that “Bannon’s Svengali-style reputation has chafed on a president who sees himself as the West Wing’s only leading man,” and that “several associates said the president had quietly expressed annoyance over the credit Mr. Bannon had received for setting the agenda—and Mr. Trump was not pleased by the ‘President Bannon’ puppet-master theme promoted by magazines, late-night talk shows and Twitter.”

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/06/steve-bannon-calls-jared-kushner-a-cuck-and-globalist-behind-his-back.html



We're still in the honeymoon phase of Trump's presidency.

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Steve Bannon Calls Jared Kushner a 'Cuck' and 'Globalist' Behind His Back (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2017 OP
so I guess all those postcards addressed to President Bannon worked. vlyons Apr 2017 #1
from the story geek tragedy Apr 2017 #3
Surprised I am! I though the postcard gimmick was too immature NCjack Apr 2017 #22
We need all the voices of rationality there we can get. Hortensis Apr 2017 #36
President Kushner? Scarsdale Apr 2017 #23
No - we need to keep the heat on and get rid of Bannon first. Right now, loathe as I am to say it, moonscape Apr 2017 #38
Trevor Noah already did csziggy Apr 2017 #41
LOL!!! I sent 6 or 7, I can't remember how many postcards - keep them coming adigal Apr 2017 #29
Schadenfreude x Infinity maxsolomon Apr 2017 #2
be really ashamed if the had a duel, and shot each other still_one Apr 2017 #4
GrimReaper wants to live up to his reputation as BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #5
The best part of the article! janx Apr 2017 #49
Yeah, I thought the first 100 days was called "The Honeymoon Period" SwissTony Apr 2017 #6
Lasted longer Scarsdale Apr 2017 #25
Other theories SujiwanKenobee Apr 2017 #7
Like Andy Kaufman and Jerry "The King" Lawler? muntrv Apr 2017 #9
"Cuck" as in cuckold? no_hypocrisy Apr 2017 #8
yeah, it's the favorite insult of white nationalists when criticizing other wingnuts nt geek tragedy Apr 2017 #10
I think it came from that, but now is a general alt-right insult, one they consider severe & broad. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #12
I really don't get why being called a cuckold is such an insult. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #19
"cuckold" is built on a foundation of sexism. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #21
Well, I guess if you think women are subhuman, then being like a woman is about the worst thing. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #28
The alt-right also live in an alt-reality IronLionZion Apr 2017 #32
Yes, but historically I see it a little differently adigal Apr 2017 #30
Yeah, but that kind of consensual sex game is about Volaris Apr 2017 #33
Steve Bannon knows that to control a woman, a man has to beat her. calimary Apr 2017 #43
It involves not just sexism, but racism, for the alt-right muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #35
... SunSeeker Apr 2017 #44
not LBN. gossip, rumour, speculation, unnamed sources. nt msongs Apr 2017 #11
I think it is not "gossip" or "rumor" when there is a Times report behind it. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #14
Really? Trump's Brain is in a fight with Trump's Secretary of Everything. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #16
Too funny. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #13
A senior adviser who speaks like an online dipshit troll. Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #15
Urban dictionary meaning of "cuck" is milestogo Apr 2017 #17
Oh, my... learn something every day... JenniferJuniper Apr 2017 #34
Definitely not a word to throw around... milestogo Apr 2017 #40
I still think it is one gigantic diversion and all of these traitors are reading from turbinetree Apr 2017 #18
Urban dictionary meaning of "globalist" is milestogo Apr 2017 #20
More unreality tv duncang Apr 2017 #24
I'll call Steve Bannon the living personification of the Seven Deadly Sins to his face. haele Apr 2017 #26
Looking forward to that Trump-based show on Comedy Central SirBrockington Apr 2017 #27
White nationalist fighting with an Orthodox Jew IronLionZion Apr 2017 #31
Trump should install a wrestling ring in the White House dalton99a Apr 2017 #37
Of course Bannon thinks he worse than a Democrat...He is a Jew. GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #39
wah, wah, f'ing wah El Mimbreno Apr 2017 #42
Can't wait for this week's SNL... Dopers_Greed Apr 2017 #45
I want to see them duel. With swords! dchill Apr 2017 #46
He's a real cuckold alright - and as with so many cuckolds, his own boss is the culprit. tenorly Apr 2017 #47
Kushner may actually BE cuckolded by his father-in-law. Dave Starsky Apr 2017 #48

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. so I guess all those postcards addressed to President Bannon worked.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:54 PM
Apr 2017

That and the SNL skits depicting Trump as the idiot child of Bannon.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. from the story
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:57 PM
Apr 2017

A Republican source close to Trump told The Daily Beast confirmed this level of insecurity over Bannon’s reputation coming from the president, and mentioned that the president was “irked” after catching a glimpse of a recent cold-open on Saturday Night Live.


Bannon was depicted as a Grim Reaper character who manipulates Alec Baldwin’s President Trump into sowing global chaos and diplomatic breakdown. At the end of the scene, “Bannon” tells Trump to give him his Oval Office desk back. Baldwin’s Trump calls the Reaper “Mr. President,” and then proceeds to go sit at his own much smaller, shorter desk, where the president plays with a kid’s toy instead of governing.

"Did you see this crap?" Trump asked the confidante, referring to the SNL sketch.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
22. Surprised I am! I though the postcard gimmick was too immature
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:32 PM
Apr 2017

to work. Wrong (again). Since it worked once, let's try postcards to "Pres. Jared Kushner". I'm sending one today that says Jared is more handsome than even Jack Kennedy, and that I really like his natural hair and commanding countenance. I swear that I would walk the stairs to the gallows, if he would hold my hand. And, I would like a photo of just him in the Oval Room -- inscribed "I will never tell you a lie -- just trust me. Jared, in the Oval Office". PS Jared: Please run for president in 2020. We need YOU!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. We need all the voices of rationality there we can get.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:28 PM
Apr 2017

Let's not forget that some of us really might not wake up some morning, or wish we hadn't, and that it could be our children running naked and burned down the streets.

Look at that idiot considering going to war against Syria--ally of both Russia and China, a complete and almost instant 180 as if this was the first time Assad gassed Syrian children. When he's already stressed over N Korea and China. Even if the few sensible people there talk him down off the wall (typically 3-day rages, remember?), where might the next mood swings take him?

moonscape

(4,674 posts)
38. No - we need to keep the heat on and get rid of Bannon first. Right now, loathe as I am to say it,
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:45 PM
Apr 2017

Kushner is our temporary <shudder> friend.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
29. LOL!!! I sent 6 or 7, I can't remember how many postcards - keep them coming
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:59 PM
Apr 2017

We need that lunatic OUT of the White House.
If our nation and its people are to literally survive the next 4 years, we need Bannon out. I despise Kuschner for the opportunistic little weasely crook that he is, but he is a million times more sane than Bannon.
What is interesting is that if Trump were to go back to his NYC politics, many Dems would actually like him. Besides from the fact he is a serial sex offender and batshit crazy. But he chose wrong.

maxsolomon

(33,418 posts)
2. Schadenfreude x Infinity
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:54 PM
Apr 2017

IF Jared can explain what a Cuckold is to *, Bannon's out.

WORSE that a Democrat! OMG!

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
6. Yeah, I thought the first 100 days was called "The Honeymoon Period"
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:00 PM
Apr 2017

Acrimonious divorce here we come.

I'd laugh, but they're in charge of the greatest arsenal of nuclear weapons ever seen.

SujiwanKenobee

(290 posts)
7. Other theories
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:04 PM
Apr 2017

You don't think it's possible that this is all a setup to make it look like Bannon and Kushner are at each others throats? It may be a huge ruse.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
12. I think it came from that, but now is a general alt-right insult, one they consider severe & broad.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:17 PM
Apr 2017

alt-right and neo-nazis and white supremacists and from people who think Scalia was too liberal.

SunSeeker

(51,734 posts)
19. I really don't get why being called a cuckold is such an insult.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:26 PM
Apr 2017

I mean, if you're a cuckold, it's your wife that did something wrong, not you.


Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
21. "cuckold" is built on a foundation of sexism.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:31 PM
Apr 2017

It attacks the "manliness" of the cuckold.

It presupposes that men are supposed to be in control of their women. If a wife has an affair, she is out of control, in the way sexists think. If a man can't control his wife in all aspects, he is "girly". Of course, they consider men having affairs as "manly", provided the man doesn't get noticed by those not directly involved or the public.

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
32. The alt-right also live in an alt-reality
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:22 PM
Apr 2017

They seem to think a cheating wife is because of feminism. Or that feminism causes women to cheat and men to become weak, pathetic, cuckolds who won't leave them.

I never understood the concept of "controlling" another person or staying with a cheater. I would rather divorce such a person.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
30. Yes, but historically I see it a little differently
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:05 PM
Apr 2017

It was a man's biggest fear - that a woman could cuckold him. In matriarchal societies, it didn't matter who the father was, as the women ran the show and raised the children together. Men were not in charge. But once we went to patriarchal societies, men were afraid of the power of the woman to trick him, with their magical ability to give life. So on went the robes, the head coverings, the chastity belts, the chaperones.
Women - they will trick you every time.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
33. Yeah, but that kind of consensual sex game is about
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:46 PM
Apr 2017

Traditional power / role reversal. What Little Stevie (as well of the rest of the idjits who would hurl it as an insult) is really saying is that he's projecting worse than an IMAX, feels ACTUALLY powerless as a white male because he doesn't get to control anyone but himself let alone His Woman, and so is accusing others of his own non-admitted admitted weakness.

Fuck his fat ass.

calimary

(81,519 posts)
43. Steve Bannon knows that to control a woman, a man has to beat her.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 08:37 PM
Apr 2017

Rough her up. And/or threaten to do it so she's terrified all the time. And he would know, wife-beater that he is.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
35. It involves not just sexism, but racism, for the alt-right
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:08 PM
Apr 2017

Prepare for a deep dive into the dirty psyche of the American right wing.

A form of porn developed (said to be real behaviour too, but that may be only said by the alt-right weirdos who were watching the porn) - white men enjoying seeing their wives have sex with black men, and they were called 'cucks' in this. It's with this in mind that the alt-right has started using 'cuck' about anyone who isn't sufficiently racist or sexist enough for them. They think a 'real man' controls his wife, and also 'real Americans' control the world, and not behaving like a spoiled brat in politics and world diplomacy is like letting these damn foreigners screw your wife.

Make no mistake - anyone using 'cuck' to insult someone wants to be racist. It's basically the modern equivalent of "****** lover".

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
14. I think it is not "gossip" or "rumor" when there is a Times report behind it.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:20 PM
Apr 2017

Also, "unnamed sources" is not a bar to good reporting from places like the Times.

SunSeeker

(51,734 posts)
16. Really? Trump's Brain is in a fight with Trump's Secretary of Everything.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:21 PM
Apr 2017

These people are in charge of our country. Hell yes it is national news.

And since when are unnamed sources not allowed in LBN? That would kill half the political stories in LBN.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
15. A senior adviser who speaks like an online dipshit troll.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:21 PM
Apr 2017

That would be disconcerting were it not for the fact that the President himself speaks like a 3RD GRADE online dipshit troll.

We're doomed.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
17. Urban dictionary meaning of "cuck" is
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:24 PM
Apr 2017

A word used by White Supremacists to solicit sex. Because they believe people whom they call cucks would want to fuck them. White Supremacists have no preference whether to be fucked by a flesh penis or a plus-sized strap-on, but black leather is mandatory.

The term was popularized during the 2016 Republican primary, when the repressed hormones of many White Supremacists spilled over and started lusting after Jeb Bush in public. Their cries of cucks were filled with their desire to feel the girth of Jeb's old wrinkly shriveled up cock deeply lodged inside them. Like Jeb, conservatives were often viewed by White Supremacists' as the primary objects of their sexual release, hence the name cuckservatives. White Supremacist forums were often dominated by coded discussions of the different positions they want the so-called cuckservatives to screw them in.

Cuck itself is an onomatopoeia derived from the moaning sound white supremacists make while fantasizing about getting fucked. It is NOT, as some trolls suggests, derived from "cuckold" - a fantastical troll logic only horny White Supremacists would believe in.

Until White Supremacists find better ways to get people to fuck them, the word cuck serves as an important cultural clue to help us better understand the unwavering depth of their erotic desires. It is also recommended to report them for sexual harassment should they call you such a thing.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cuck

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
18. I still think it is one gigantic diversion and all of these traitors are reading from
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:24 PM
Apr 2017

"apprentice scrip" and by the way Jared is not a democrat, and we democrats don't like traitors making secret meetings with Russians






milestogo

(16,829 posts)
20. Urban dictionary meaning of "globalist" is
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:27 PM
Apr 2017

A Person whom Alex Jones believes is behind the shadow world government. Usually a globalist is a person of power and practices eugenics and satanism.

Alex Jones: Total globalist Bill Gates openly promotes cancer viruses in the vaccines. He's behind the king of the globalist empire, David Rockefeller.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Globalist

haele

(12,682 posts)
26. I'll call Steve Bannon the living personification of the Seven Deadly Sins to his face.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:38 PM
Apr 2017

He pretty much ticks off all the categories - Sloth, Envy, Rage, Lust, Gluttony, Pride, Greed - well, maybe not Despondency, but that does follow him, and I suspect his habit of picking up his toys and leaving when he doesn't get his way is based on feelings of inadequacy, which does have a link to Despondency.

Haele

IronLionZion

(45,544 posts)
31. White nationalist fighting with an Orthodox Jew
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 05:15 PM
Apr 2017

sounds like a real Cuck-tastrophe

If Bannon thinks he's worse than a Democrat, then Jared's stock just went up in my book.

Oh, and if Trump is bothered by the public perception about Bannon, then let's keep up the good work! We can break this guy!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
39. Of course Bannon thinks he worse than a Democrat...He is a Jew.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:04 PM
Apr 2017

He hates Democrats for their ideology.

He hates Jews due to their race, which he sees as inferior. That is what happens when we have a anti-Semite, white supremacist as a presidential advisor. And the presidents favorite daughter is married to a practicing Jew. Converted even.

And as Kushner gains further power Bannon will go increasingly off the rails. He is incapable of anything else.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
45. Can't wait for this week's SNL...
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:48 PM
Apr 2017

Alec Baldwin can fire the Grim Reaper (Bannon) on The Apprentice and replace him with Kushner (played by Zach Braff).

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
48. Kushner may actually BE cuckolded by his father-in-law.
Fri Apr 7, 2017, 09:36 AM
Apr 2017

I wonder if this isn't the real reason behind his suddenly being shipped out on assignments around the world away from his wife--assignments for which he clearly offers no expertise whatsoever.

It's an old trick used by sleazeball bosses over generations. Kushner's just dumb enough to fall for it.

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