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Judi Lynn

(160,630 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:21 PM Mar 2017

Tennessee bid to name God as source of liberty resurrected

Source: Associated Press

Tennessee bid to name God as source of liberty resurrected
Updated 8:13 pm, Wednesday, March 29, 2017


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A previously defeated proposal to amend the state constitution to say that God is the source of Tennesseans' liberties has been resurrected in the House.

The measure sponsored by Republican Rep. Micah Van Huss of Jonesborough failed on a 3-3 vote in the House Civil Justice Subcommittee earlier this month. But the panel agreed to a motion to reconsider the bill made by Republican Rep. Martin Daniel of Knoxville.

The resolution is scheduled to be reheard April 5.

The proposed addition to the Tennessee Constitution would read: "We recognize that our liberties do not come from governments, but from almighty God."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Tennessee-bid-to-name-God-as-source-of-liberty-11037728.php

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Tennessee bid to name God as source of liberty resurrected (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2017 OP
F'en fools! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2017 #1
I don't know, "endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights" SharonAnn Mar 2017 #12
That is not in the Constitution. THE document that guarantees our freedoms bitterross Apr 2017 #32
Pretty sure God doesn't support freedom of religion. NT Adrahil Mar 2017 #2
Liberty is not god-given, it is gained & kept by human effort and sometimes blood. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #3
We hold these truths to be self-evident Stonepounder Mar 2017 #9
which god? there are millions to choose from. and what about goddesses? nt msongs Mar 2017 #4
I'm sure they're talking about FakeNoose Apr 2017 #24
But which one? Here's a site with a list of some... wcmagumba Mar 2017 #5
Someone needs to translate the bill to Arabic and see how many sign it with Allah in place of God NickB79 Mar 2017 #21
Each denies they're talking about exactly the same mythical entity Panich52 Apr 2017 #27
Probably this one! RKP5637 Apr 2017 #26
Clearly, Van Huss has never read the Bible. sakabatou Mar 2017 #6
Given by God and can be taken away by secular gov't. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #7
How did these people get so stupid? jalan48 Mar 2017 #8
Living in TN for 17 years, I still haven't figured it out. SharonAnn Mar 2017 #13
Our Founding Fathers were well aware of the perniciousness of religion in politics Zorro Mar 2017 #10
IOW, "We hope God's looking out for the rights and liberties of Tennesseeans... Girard442 Mar 2017 #11
Excuse me while I fetch my banjo. YOHABLO Mar 2017 #14
Tennessee is in the grip of an opioid epidemic pfitz59 Mar 2017 #15
Then let God pay for their retirement and highways. sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #16
God was my copilot. Then we crashed ... Panich52 Apr 2017 #28
This is how Drumpf got so many votes -- why are we surprised? The stoopid is amazing. LuckyLib Mar 2017 #17
Right at 65% of the vote for the tiny hands truck driver. peacebuzzard Mar 2017 #18
It will be interesting to see if media in TN LuckyLib Mar 2017 #19
Blatantly unconstitutional! nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #20
So God has supported Liberty for only 241 of the last 6,000 years? Ilsa Mar 2017 #22
Apparently they forget about the Decalogue Panich52 Apr 2017 #29
Which God????? Vinca Apr 2017 #23
I'm actually very happy when people pull the "rights from God" argument metalbot Apr 2017 #25
Unconstitutional. But could be fixed with 2 word changes: Panich52 Apr 2017 #30
another conservative solution in search of a problem... Thomas Hurt Apr 2017 #31

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
12. I don't know, "endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights"
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:12 AM
Mar 2017

This is a stupid thing for us to waste our time on. We have far more important things to be dealing with but you can always count on our legislature to introduce bizarre bills relating to guns and God.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
32. That is not in the Constitution. THE document that guarantees our freedoms
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 01:29 PM
Apr 2017

Look, I escaped from TN (where I was born and raised) many, many years ago because of people like these idiots. The founders very carefully and intentionally omitted God from our Constitution.

I keep telling my friends in TN they need to get rid of these idiots - especially Marsha Blackburn. There are real issues out there we need our elected officials to work on. Not made up issues like this one.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
9. We hold these truths to be self-evident
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:51 PM
Mar 2017

that men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights governments are instituted among men ...

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
24. I'm sure they're talking about
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 08:48 AM
Apr 2017

... the WHITE, MALE, REPUBLICAN version.
Anything else wouldn't be worth mentioning.





NickB79

(19,271 posts)
21. Someone needs to translate the bill to Arabic and see how many sign it with Allah in place of God
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:43 PM
Mar 2017

The reactions would be priceless.

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
7. Given by God and can be taken away by secular gov't.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:44 PM
Mar 2017

Given by God and can be taken away by secular gov't.

They are pushing a weak God.

Girard442

(6,085 posts)
11. IOW, "We hope God's looking out for the rights and liberties of Tennesseeans...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:55 PM
Mar 2017

...'cause the Tennessee legislature sure as hell ain't."

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
18. Right at 65% of the vote for the tiny hands truck driver.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:40 PM
Mar 2017

I was not at all surprised about the TN voting. Dems are loathed "round these parts". In certain sparsely populated counties they know exactly who you vote for. If you vote Dem, you will lose your job if it's locally administered.

LuckyLib

(6,820 posts)
19. It will be interesting to see if media in TN
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:45 PM
Mar 2017

poses the questions to folks, "How's that Trump vote working for you?"

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
22. So God has supported Liberty for only 241 of the last 6,000 years?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 10:14 PM
Mar 2017

Not all that enthusiastic, is he?

Yeah, I'm using their 6000 year calendar for this post.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
29. Apparently they forget about the Decalogue
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 11:05 AM
Apr 2017

Considering how many of the 10 rules have to do with bowing down to their "author," he doesn't sound like much of a liberty lover.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
25. I'm actually very happy when people pull the "rights from God" argument
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 10:34 AM
Apr 2017

...because inevitably the same people are virulently anti-immigration and insist that non-citizens don't have rights. You can further argue that those rights clearly don't end at the US borders, which means that all humans should have those rights, which shuts down a lot of their more hawkish foreign policy rights (because if rights are God given, then our government should not be able to violate rights outside the US any more than they can inside the US).

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
30. Unconstitutional. But could be fixed with 2 word changes:
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 11:20 AM
Apr 2017

Change to:
"We recognize that our liberties do not come from governments, but from our creator."

That would make it in line with founding documents. Using "almighty God" implies Judeo-Christian—their intent because other religions, esp Islam (which, BTW, worships exactly the same entity), pagans & atheists, threaten their one-sided moralistic ideas. And once the discriminatory & divisive addition is in their state constitution, they can justify crap like paying f/ creationist theme parks w/ tax money & allowing proselytizing in schools & other public govt venues.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
31. another conservative solution in search of a problem...
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 12:50 PM
Apr 2017

also, this little dog and pony show is just another bit of political activism to have state sanctioned religion......of course.

If you want to understand natural rights.....go the philosophical source John Locke.

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