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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:29 PM Mar 2017

Trump Defends Parroting JFK-Cruz Conspiracy

Source: The Daily Beast


In a new interview published Thursday, President Donald Trump defends and doubles down on many of the falsehoods that he has repeated throughout the 2016 campaign and his presidency. Notably, Trump defended parroting a baseless attack on Ted Cruz’s father—that he was somehow involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy—by saying it was “in a newspaper.” The charge was first brought to the forefront, though, by the National Enquirer, a supermarket tabloid known for peddling hoaxes and conspiracies. “I was referring to a newspaper. A Ted Cruz article referred to a newspaper story with, had a picture of Ted Cruz, his father, and Lee Harvey Oswald, having breakfast,” Trump said in an interview with Time, adding: “I’m just quoting the newspaper.” (The supposed Cruz-Oswald photo has never been authenticated and Cruz did in fact deny the report.) In the interview, Trump also stood by his unsubstantiated claims that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election, that U.S. Muslims were cheering on the 9/11 terror attacks, and that President Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump Tower.

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Trump Defends Parroting JFK-Cruz Conspiracy (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
Let me guess - he "read" an article on Shitwars / Breitfart and believed it as fact? Initech Mar 2017 #1
As reported in the article; The National Enquirer DonViejo Mar 2017 #4
Wait - he reads the National Enquirer? Initech Mar 2017 #6
Yep, and the guy that owns it is one of his buds DonViejo Mar 2017 #8
Wow, that explains all the pro-Trump crap I see in the supermarket check out aisle. Initech Mar 2017 #11
Xactly!!!! I've 'learned' many things in the checkout line groundloop Mar 2017 #13
Current issue Marcuse Mar 2017 #18
I was torn whether he said stuff because he's nuts or to inflame his base titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #2
to create distractions whenever the real news looks bad for him ColemanMaskell Mar 2017 #23
the guy is fabulist UpInArms Mar 2017 #3
Although to be fair, Cruz's father probably was involved - albeit in a very minor, subordinate role. tenorly Mar 2017 #5
Stone's cinematic mishmash is as discredited now as Garrison's KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #7
Now THAT seems far fetched. tenorly Mar 2017 #12
Bugliosi also published a book that called for the prosecution of Bush KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #19
Bugliosi who is an obviously skilled investigator and prosecutor grantcart Mar 2017 #27
Nothing is ever his fault. R Merm Mar 2017 #9
But Teddy NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #10
National Enquirer talk about Fake News IcyPeas Mar 2017 #14
OMG!! This is hilarious!!!!!! DK504 Mar 2017 #15
I'm just quoting. I'm just re-telling. I'm just repeating. I'm just saying what someone else said. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #16
Trump makes children vomit. I know this because I saw it on a magazine grantcart Mar 2017 #17
That's fuckin great! LOL bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #22
Ok, that was funny. :) floridafella Mar 2017 #25
Welcome to DU grantcart Mar 2017 #26
Trump has memorized his stump Talking points and is too lazy to memorize new ones-except riversedge Mar 2017 #20
umm. Trumpy did another--I am just quoting a respected Juddge (fox news).. riversedge Mar 2017 #21
Oh...my...god.... MotorCityMan Mar 2017 #24
"had a picture of Ted Cruz, his father, and Lee Harvey Oswald, having breakfast", TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #28

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Yep, and the guy that owns it is one of his buds
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

watches FOX and reads Breitbart. It's all part of the plan to "Make America Great Again"

groundloop

(11,522 posts)
13. Xactly!!!! I've 'learned' many things in the checkout line
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:03 PM
Mar 2017

The National Rag informed me that Pres. Obama's daughter was secretly undergoing rehab, that 45* has been making 'bold decisions', and on and on.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
2. I was torn whether he said stuff because he's nuts or to inflame his base
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:32 PM
Mar 2017

Now I'm really thinking he's just nuts and his base follows along like sheep.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
23. to create distractions whenever the real news looks bad for him
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:25 PM
Mar 2017

He just tweets something outrageous and all eyes turn toward that, and away momentarily from, say, the Russian investigation(s). It works, for a while at least.

Or if he falls off the front pages, he tweets something outrageous to get attention. Look how much attention he got from his years of allegations about Obama's birthplace. It works for him. He's like Veruca in that first Willie Wonka movie.

He probably is nuts, and his base do seem to resemble inflamed sheep somewhat, but the point of his "saying stuff" is to focus attention wherever he needs it to be at that moment.

He's an entertainer -- member of the Screen Actors Guild, or that's what people say

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
3. the guy is fabulist
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:32 PM
Mar 2017

fab·u·list
ˈfabyələst/
noun
noun: fabulist; plural noun: fabulists

a person who composes or relates fables.
a liar, especially a person who invents elaborate, dishonest stories.

Origin
late 16th century: from French fabuliste, from Latin fabula (see fable).
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tenorly

(2,037 posts)
5. Although to be fair, Cruz's father probably was involved - albeit in a very minor, subordinate role.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:40 PM
Mar 2017

If you recall the scene in JFK where Carlos Bringuier (the Tony Plana character) and three other Cubans accost Oswald in New Orleans as part of the operation to blame the upcoming assassination on Castro, the elder Cruz was said to be one of those three Cubans.

We'll never really know.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
7. Stone's cinematic mishmash is as discredited now as Garrison's
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

own efforts.

Read Bugliosi's Reclaiming History. Oswald acted alone to try to curry favor with the Castro regime to secure transit to the USSR for him and his wife.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
12. Now THAT seems far fetched.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:52 PM
Mar 2017

Obviously, neither you, I, Bugliosi, or Oliver Stone know what really happened. But of all the misinformation stories put out there, that one has to be one of the silliest.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
19. Bugliosi also published a book that called for the prosecution of Bush
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:34 PM
Mar 2017

for murder for Iraq. not sure why you think Bugliosi is silly.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
27. Bugliosi who is an obviously skilled investigator and prosecutor
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:44 PM
Mar 2017

is a Democrat who condemned Bush vs Gore, Clinton and believed that the assassination of RFK probably was the result of a conspiracy.

Reclaiming History was favourably reviewed by a wide variety of well known objective critics who gave it very favourable reviews, only those who were part of the industry to profit from the conspiracies faulted it but there hasn't been anyone who has been able to refute his basic arguments:



In a review for The New York Times, Bryan Burrough wrote: "Bugliosi is refreshing because he doesn’t just pick apart the conspiracy theorists. He ridicules them, and by name, writing that 'most of them are as kooky as a $3 bill.'"[5] Alex Kingsbury of U.S. News & World Report described it as "the most exhaustive of the countless narratives that have been written about that fateful day in Dallas."[6] According to Steve Donoghue of Open Letters Monthly: "Reclaiming History, in addition to being the longest book ever written on the subject of the Kennedy assassination, is also the most enjoyable of them all to read."[7] Tim Shipman of The Telegraph said: "Mr Bugliosi... has turned up no new killer fact. His technique instead is to expose the double-think and distortions of the conspiracy theorists."[8] Kirkus Reviews said the point of Reclaiming History is to "dismantle [conspiracy] theories one by one, in sometimes tedious and overladen detail". Kirkus added that "Bugliosi does himself and his argument no favors with his tone of flippancy and dismissiveness" but described the book as "oddly fascinating".[9]



No one, even those that he exposed, labelled it "silly".

R Merm

(407 posts)
9. Nothing is ever his fault.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:47 PM
Mar 2017

There is always someone else to blame, in this case the original article in the National Enquirer. Or in the case or the batched Yeman raid the military, because they planed it. He is such a child.

IcyPeas

(21,904 posts)
14. National Enquirer talk about Fake News
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

so he thinks the National Enquirer is a reputable newspaper

and CNN et al. are Fake News.......

he is so twisted

DK504

(3,847 posts)
15. OMG!! This is hilarious!!!!!!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:17 PM
Mar 2017

" ... —that he was somehow involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy—by saying it was “in a newspaper.” The charge was first brought to the forefront, though, by the National Enquirer,... "

We are truly living in a "Idiocracy".

Solly Mack

(90,785 posts)
16. I'm just quoting. I'm just re-telling. I'm just repeating. I'm just saying what someone else said.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:19 PM
Mar 2017

Can't blame me!

I didn't start it! I'm just repeating it over and over and over and over and over and over again.

What a fucking child!

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
21. umm. Trumpy did another--I am just quoting a respected Juddge (fox news)..
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 07:08 PM
Mar 2017

He is a fool.



......“I was referring to a newspaper. A Ted Cruz article referred to a newspaper story with, had a picture of Ted Cruz, his father, and Lee Harvey Oswald, having breakfast,” Trump said in an interview with Time, adding: “I’m just quoting the newspaper.” (The supposed Cruz-Oswald photo has never been authenticated and Cruz did in fact deny the report.)

MotorCityMan

(1,203 posts)
24. Oh...my...god....
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:51 PM
Mar 2017

I couldn't read the Time article at work, but was able to at home. That boy ain't right. He is incoherent as hell, just spouts off what pops into his pinhead. He didn't say those things, he was just quoting "reputable" sources. And the New York Times took wiretapping out of a headline. My main take away from the article is he was RIGHT!

From Women of the Year (1980 musical with Lauren Bacall, based on the Tracy/Hepburn movie)

I was RIGHT! I was perfectly right,
My instincts are valid and strong;
When you're right, you're right, I know when I'm right
It's remarkably rare that I'm wrong.

Bet the orange shitgibbon knows that one.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
28. "had a picture of Ted Cruz, his father, and Lee Harvey Oswald, having breakfast",
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:32 AM
Mar 2017

Ted Cruz was born in 1970!

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