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LNM

(1,079 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:01 PM Jul 2012

Kentucky teen faces charge for naming attackers.

Source: The Courier Journal

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 17-year-old Kentucky girl who was upset by the plea deal reached by a pair of teenagers who sexually assaulted her is now facing a contempt charge for tweeting their names in violation of a court order.

Savannah Dietrich of Louisville told The Courier-Journal (http://cjky.it/NEcirr) she is frustrated by what she feels is a lenient deal for her attackers. After posting the names on Twitter, Dietrich wrote, "I'm not protecting anyone that made my life a living Hell."

The Associated Press does not normally report the names of sexual assault victims, but Dietrich and her parents say they do not want to shield her identity and want her case to be public.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-teen-faces-charge-naming-attackers-174237074.html

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Kentucky teen faces charge for naming attackers. (Original Post) LNM Jul 2012 OP
American Justice: assault the victim. Vidar Jul 2012 #1
+1 sarcasmo Jul 2012 #4
The boys pleaded guilty...to first-degree sexual abuse rocktivity Jul 2012 #2
From what I gather, that kind of thing happens all the time. SheilaT Jul 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #3
Just the lastest stomping of a woman from Rand Paul's fiefdom. freshwest Jul 2012 #5
That's fucked up. boppers Jul 2012 #6
Those cretins chervilant Jul 2012 #7
The law must say otherwise or she wouldnt be in trouble for tweeting the names. nt cstanleytech Jul 2012 #9
The law is an ass. Iggo Jul 2012 #19
Thats a matter of perspective, when we support the law its great but when cstanleytech Jul 2012 #30
My perspective is that of a person... Iggo Jul 2012 #35
Oh I agree with your perspective but cstanleytech Jul 2012 #36
Yeah, I just get mad at this kind of shit. Iggo Jul 2012 #37
From the chervilant Jul 2012 #28
Nope, I think they should have gotten hard time actually. nt cstanleytech Jul 2012 #31
Nope, I meant the LAW. chervilant Jul 2012 #32
Here's the judge's profile... msanthrope Jul 2012 #8
Nice white woman gets a man's job as long as she obeys the mbperrin Jul 2012 #12
Now, wait a second....the judge hasn't even had a hearing on this matter. Let's be fair. msanthrope Jul 2012 #14
Justice stopped happening the moment the judge imposed restrictions on the victim. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #16
Nonsense. It is standard in a sex crime that involve juveniles msanthrope Jul 2012 #21
Finest good ole boy wink and a nod available. mbperrin Jul 2012 #10
Misleading headline proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #11
A court order.. sendero Jul 2012 #17
If she was not on trial how can she be forced to do or not do something? n/t A Simple Game Jul 2012 #13
I did not know that Kentucky had Sharia Law CanonRay Jul 2012 #15
Yeah, the one instance in the US when Michelle Bachman is right! nt Ilsa Jul 2012 #22
What? The 17 year-old should have asked the judge to "vacate" the gag order? shcrane71 Jul 2012 #18
"So what are you in for?" "Getting raped by two boys." "FUCK." derby378 Jul 2012 #20
If she faces a fine, I'm sure that something could be arranged to assist her... Orrex Jul 2012 #23
Might as well post those names everywhere if they are going to charge her with contempt. L0oniX Jul 2012 #24
going to say the same thing.. iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #29
wow, only in america may3rd Jul 2012 #25
Did I wake up in Saudi Arabia? Seems that you have the right to name someone that attacked you... progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #26
Any legal experts care to weigh in on this? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #33
I am so not a legal expert. Dr. Strange Jul 2012 #38
So JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #34

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
2. The boys pleaded guilty...to first-degree sexual abuse
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:06 PM
Jul 2012
and misdemeanor voyeurism. Dietrich says she was unaware of a plea agreement until just before it was announced in court.

You mean this agreement was reached before either Dietrich, her parents, or her lawyer knew about it?


rocktivity
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
27. From what I gather, that kind of thing happens all the time.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jul 2012

Plea agreements are done between the court and the defendant, and the accuser has no say in the matter. Often the accuser's attorneys have little or no say in the matter, it seems.

Response to LNM (Original post)

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
30. Thats a matter of perspective, when we support the law its great but when
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jul 2012

we dont we think its an "ass".

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
35. My perspective is that of a person...
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:16 PM
Jul 2012

...who thinks that the victim of a sexual assault should not be required to protect her attackers. If you have a different point of view, please share.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
32. Nope, I meant the LAW.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jul 2012

I realize I should have been clearer. The LAW reflects the 'boys will be boys' sensibility common in our patriarchal society.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
12. Nice white woman gets a man's job as long as she obeys the
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jul 2012

local lawyer association.

I'm not perfect, even close, but I do hate a sellout.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
14. Now, wait a second....the judge hasn't even had a hearing on this matter. Let's be fair.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:05 PM
Jul 2012

The only people asking for charges are the defense attorneys.....I mean, read the article.

The criminals have not been sentenced yet, either.

It's entirely possible justice might happen.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
21. Nonsense. It is standard in a sex crime that involve juveniles
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jul 2012

that the court record is sealed, and the persons involved are admonished not to talk about it.

In this particular sex crime, the victim was assaulted, and pictures of her attack were disseminated. The judge issued a blanket court order to stop all communications regarding the incident.

In this case, however, the victim wishes to have the record unsealed. I agree with her..this is her right, and the perpetrators, since they were not adjudicated delinquent, should be subject to the same public disclosure that other criminals must face.

So let's hope the judge does the right thing. And if she doesn't, then it's time to take it higher.


mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
10. Finest good ole boy wink and a nod available.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jul 2012

Time for those "men" to take some responsibility for their actions - they had fun passing around the pictures - now let's see theirs.

Gag order for criminal identities is overly broad, anyway. Surely another judge will strike this.

Although (and I'm old) when I was growing up, someone's dad or uncles would have taken care of the little jerks long before it reached a courtroom.

Those rapists are pure scum.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
11. Misleading headline
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jul 2012

She faces charges for violating a court order.

I think this is fucked up. But she did violate a court order.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
17. A court order..
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jul 2012

... that goes against pretty much any reasonable idea of justice. On exactly what justification can these names remain sealed?

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
15. I did not know that Kentucky had Sharia Law
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jul 2012

as in punish rape victims. I thought victims had to agree with plea deals...

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
18. What? The 17 year-old should have asked the judge to "vacate" the gag order?
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:53 PM
Jul 2012

It's 2012. Teens have access to social media. A 17 year-old is not going to understand how to maneuver through the court system, but she can tweet her attackers name. This judge is out-of-touch.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
29. going to say the same thing..
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:25 AM
Jul 2012

we should wait for her charges to go through so nothing can be added and then plaster them everywhere lol..
unless her attackers were all underage too..

 

may3rd

(593 posts)
25. wow, only in america
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jul 2012

In some of our more friendly oil rich countries,
she would have been given the death penalty for being sexually assaulted.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
26. Did I wake up in Saudi Arabia? Seems that you have the right to name someone that attacked you...
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jul 2012

she's not the media.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
38. I am so not a legal expert.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:20 PM
Jul 2012

But from what I gather, the rationale is that by releasing the names, Dietrich is violating the judge's gag order, and the defense attorney is trying to protect them by asking for the judge to hold her in contempt. Eugene Volokh is of the opinion that she probably won't be held in contempt, because she didn't report anything from the trial: the identity of the rapists was known to her before any legal proceedings began.

Now, the real irony here is that, by asking for this contempt charge, the defense attorney may be harming the rapists far more than Dietrich's twittering, thanks to the Streisand effect. I've read that the names are out there online, although I haven't searched hard for them. Another problem for the defense attorney: the rapists have accepted a plea agreement, but the judge hasn't ruled on it yet--she could reject it or modify it. If the defense attorney goes after Dietrich hard, then that could jeopardize the rapist, because I don't think any judge is going to give Dietrich a harsher punishment than her rapists.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
34. So
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jul 2012

What are the names of the two rapists? Are they floating around the Internet anymore? If they are college bound - i would like my two nieces and several friends' daughters heading off to University next month to know who these two convicted sex offenders are.

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