Wisconsin setting stage to remove hundreds of thousands of names from the voting rolls

[brooklynite]

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

MADISON – Wisconsin election officials are setting the stage to remove hundreds of thousands of people from the voting rolls because they have died, moved or not voted in the past four years.

The voters will be notified and will have a chance to keep themselves registered to vote.

Wisconsin Elections Commission approved the plan Tuesday to send postcards to up to nearly 800,000 voters by June to tell them they will be removed from the voter rolls if they don't update their information.

Also Tuesday, the commission certified to the Legislature that it has put in place a new system allowing people to use an online portal to register to vote, provided they have a valid Wisconsin driver's license or state ID card. The system is for registering only and voters still have to cast ballots at the polls, in clerks' offices or by mail.

Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2017/03/14/wisconsin-setting-stage-remove-hundreds-thousands-names-voting-rolls/99168190/

[Tiggeroshii]

1. "...or haven't voted in the last 4 years"

the goal should be to get them to vote again, not remove their capability of doing so.

[cstanleytech]

3. True but voting is an option only in this country and unless a law is passed that

changes that the government is not going to spend money to get people to vote if they dont want to.

[Tiggeroshii]

5. Keeping people registered isn't spending any extra money.

Removing them, however, is.

[cstanleytech]

23. I mean spending money to go out of its way to confirm that the people are still living in the area

and still want to vote after 4+ years of not doing so and to be honest I dont have to much of an objection to removing people from the voting registration if they have not shown any interest in voting for that many years and besides old entries like that can screw up the demographics for an area especially if a campaign is relying on the data for where to target its ads.

[IronLionZion]

7. Some people have more nefarious goals

GOP affiliated policy groups like ALEC have admitted their goal is to prevent certain types of people from voting. Types that are known to vote for Democrats for example.

[cstanleytech]

24. Ya I agree that is a problem but if a person has decided not vote for 4 years in any election

is it the same thing? I dont think so.
This clearing isnt what is hurting anyway its the voters not showing up and of course the absurd voter id laws which puts a hurdle in front of people especially the poor.

[forthemiddle]

8. In Wisconsin you can register at the polls

So even if they make a mistake on removal, no one would be denied the right to vote.

[Tiggeroshii]

12. Do you need an id register?

If so, it is likely many if that were kicked off wont be able to re register.

[forthemiddle]

14. Yes

But you also need it to vote now.
So without they couldn't vote anyway.

[Tiggeroshii]

18. So just kick em off the rolls and deny they ever even tried to vote.

Solid voter suppression plan.

[forthemiddle]

19. I never said I liked it!

I only said this shouldn't deny anyone their right to vote!

[Tiggeroshii]

20. It will be neat to see less evil people running that state

[cstanleytech]

25. Hopefully the DNC and the other Democratic groups will realize that

they need to focus on helping people overcome the voter id hurdles otherwise the Repugnants are going to keep throwing up hurdle after hurdle to stop as many people who lean to voting for Democrats as possible.
What really pisses me off though is the fact that the Courts have been largely letting them get away with these voter id laws which have nothing to truly do with voter fraud but everything to do with putting hurdles in front of voters.

[LanternWaste]

36. I don't think the solution is to accept the problem as is.

"they need to focus on helping people overcome the voter id hurdles..."


I don't think the solution is to accept the problem as it stands. I'm beginning to believe you however, do.

[cstanleytech]

37. The problem though that unless the courts order their removal the hurdles will probably be

with us for awhile so we need to work around them for now.

[Orrex]

9. On election day I was behind a guy who got hosed like this

From his overall manner, appearance and conversation, I don't gather that he was a Trump voter.

I don't suspect that the volunteers at the polling place were up to anything fishy, but the guy insisted that he didn't know he'd been purged from the list.

[JunkYardDogg]

29. Probably got purged by Kobach's Interstate Cross Check List

According to studies, maybe up to 300,000 got purged in Wisconsin by this shit

[SharonAnn]

15. 4 years is too short a time. Should be longer.

For people who vote only in presidential elections, this would catch people who didn't want to vote for any of the candidates this time around. And I suspect that it could catch more nominal "D"s than "R"s. That would fit right into their voter suppression plans.

[cstanleytech]

26. The 4 year voters piss me off though because the mid terms "do" matter and by them not showing it

has cost us alot of seats in the House.

[33taw]

2. I personally verify my voting status before all elections.

[IronLionZion]

6. I registered when I got my license

and showed up to vote in the Dem primary and it turned out I wasn't registered. Thankfully we have same day registration but a lot of folks don't check. Glitches and errors happen all the time that keep legit voters from voting.

[lagomorph777]

4. Koch Bros. Cross-Check at work.

The DNC had better get serious about voter protection and voter enrollment in WI, pronto.

[cstanleytech]

27. Enrollment doesnt mean shit if people wont show up to vote.

Thats why I wish they would keep polls open for atleast 3 to 5 days rather than just one single day because alot of working people have trouble arranging transportation or simply getting the time to get off to go vote.
That or make it a federal mandatory holiday for everyone except people in the vital services as atleast then the large corporations like Walmart cannot rig the game by scheduling most of their workers to work that day.

[lagomorph777]

33. Yes, but none of that can happen until we vote the assholes out

and get some progressives in to start repairing the country. So we have to do it the hard way.

[halobeam]

34. and none of that matters unless it's paper ballot only and do ONE purge - CrossCheck n/t

[lagomorph777]

35. Bingo.

[Orrex]

10. I"m sure that mistakes will be minimal, of course

And that they'll be proportionately distributed among all demographics, districts and income levels.


Of course.

[Angry Dragon]

17. you forgot this

[diva77]

11. and people will throw out the postcards thinking they are junk mail

devious way to purge voters from the rolls

[matt819]

13. What a crock of shit

If someone doesn't vote, they don't vote. They may vote in future elections. Leave them the fuck alone.

If someone moves and registers elsewhere, they'll vote there. The odds of them turning up to vote a second time in the first place are slim. N.B.: Many 45 disciples are registered to vote in multiple locations, but, presumably, only voted in one of those places.

If someone's dead, they won't vote. So what if their name's still on the rolls.

If someone's in prison, they won't vote. So what if their name's still on the rolls.



End of story. No need to purge anyone from anywhere.

[SharonAnn]

16. They need to show ID to vote, so leave them on the rolls.

[Igel]

31. A few things.

People move. This keeps them registered in at most one place. It's the main reason polls affect low-income folk more than others. Low income = more transient population. This is both anecdotal but also statistical.

We look at percentages of registered voters. If only 20% vote because the poll book is mostly dead or non-residents it makes that a useless number.

And it always looks bad to have 100000 registered voters in a berg with a population of 90000.

[DK504]

21. I would love to a million citizens show up and make sure they are registered.

They want to start a war on voters need to shut that shit down now. This SoS wouldn't know what hit him.

[murielm99]

22. This is a good job for

some of the grassroots organizations like Indivisible. They can mount statewide efforts to make sure everyone is registered. They can help people check and double-check their registrations.

[not fooled]

28. pukes have criminalized

get out the vote efforts in many states by imposing harsh penalties for minor errors on applications. That's why the League of Women Voters stopped registering people.

Just another anti-democratic trick by the evil bastards.

[coco22]

32. Thinking the same thing..

[JunkYardDogg]

30. The Critical Word here is " State ID"

The Federal Court made Wisconsin institute a program for voters to obtain a State ID for Voting
Wisconsin (re.:Scott Walker) came up with an application form, available only at the State's DMV office to be filled out by the voter to be submitted to the DMV to obtain the State ID. Only problem the DMVs claimed that they had no applications & folks could not get their State Voter IDs.