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Maven

(10,533 posts)
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:07 PM Mar 2017

Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking

Source: NYT

WASHINGTON — In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government. Former American officials say they had two aims: to ensure that such meddling isn’t duplicated in future American or European elections, and to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators.

American allies, including the British and the Dutch, had provided information describing meetings in European cities between Russian officials — and others close to Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin — and associates of President-elect Trump, according to three former American officials who requested anonymity in discussing classified intelligence. Separately, American intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of Russian officials, some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Mr. Trump’s associates.

Then and now, Mr. Trump has denied that his campaign had any contact with Russian officials, and at one point he openly suggested that American spy agencies had cooked up intelligence suggesting that the Russian government had tried to meddle in the presidential election. Mr. Trump has accused the Obama administration of hyping the Russia story line as a way to discredit his new administration.

At the Obama White House, Mr. Trump’s statements stoked fears among some that intelligence could be covered up or destroyed — or its sources exposed — once power changed hands. What followed was a push to preserve the intelligence that underscored the deep anxiety with which the White House and American intelligence agencies had come to view the threat from Moscow.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html



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Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking (Original Post) Maven Mar 2017 OP
I hope Barack and Joe are wearing thumb drives around their necks. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #1
No shit! Raster Mar 2017 #2
I guess we have to hope (!) that there's a faction within the IC Maven Mar 2017 #3
My question is why didn't the media report this earlier. In October Harry Reid already made remarks still_one Mar 2017 #4
The FBI persuaded the NYT to sit on the story, I think there was a big thread on it earlier. The NYT uponit7771 Mar 2017 #5
No doubt about it, something is rotten with our news media still_one Mar 2017 #8
Yes they are. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #23
+1. YoungDemCA Mar 2017 #33
Still no smoking gun, if you read the article fountainofyouth Mar 2017 #6
Really? How do you explain Michael Flynn? I believe he was one of Trump's people still_one Mar 2017 #7
Flynn's contact came after the election fountainofyouth Mar 2017 #10
On December 10, 2015, Michael Flynn was Putin's personal guest honoring the Russian State owned still_one Mar 2017 #12
Granted, that was fishy as hell and the Army is investigating if he was paid illegally fountainofyouth Mar 2017 #18
Jill Stein as welcomed guest need to be investigated too Maraya1969 Mar 2017 #21
Interesting point Maraya, since she garnered just enough votes to put trump in the WH still_one Mar 2017 #29
False bar, they don't have to be aware just in contact with Russian intel ... that's all is needed uponit7771 Mar 2017 #9
You're talking about building a case for impeachment fountainofyouth Mar 2017 #11
Trump invited a hack by Russia on live TV ... Russia hacked ... what else is needed? uponit7771 Mar 2017 #14
Trump made that remark in late July fountainofyouth Mar 2017 #19
No, hacking is not a single action and could be disjointed series of actions. Bottom line he invited uponit7771 Mar 2017 #20
Little Jefferson Beuregard Sessions NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #25
Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Mike Flynn, Felix Sater, Wilbur Ross, Rex Tillerson, Roger Stone csziggy Mar 2017 #30
Kurt Eichenwald reported a lot of it in Newsweek the Friday before the election. n/t femmedem Mar 2017 #26
Brian Williams and Chris Matthews ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #27
K&R drm604 Mar 2017 #13
kick for visibility triron Mar 2017 #15
K & R FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #16
Brian Williams talking about this now (He is subbing for Maddow) riversedge Mar 2017 #17
Where is Rachael? Zo Zig Mar 2017 #22
Would be great is Obama is called to testify in #45's trial. nt NCjack Mar 2017 #24
Better yet NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #28
Thank you President Obama and your staffers Marthe48 Mar 2017 #31
Still would lilke to know why O chose not to release more before the election. Senator Wyden Amaryllis Mar 2017 #32

Maven

(10,533 posts)
3. I guess we have to hope (!) that there's a faction within the IC
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

that Trump can't touch. It's a race against the clock really. I'm baffled that the Obama admin thought this was their only (or best) option.

still_one

(92,273 posts)
4. My question is why didn't the media report this earlier. In October Harry Reid already made remarks
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:23 PM
Mar 2017

about the "damning" evidence regarding the trump campaign and Russians, yet the media remained pretty quiet on the whole thing

Even now I don't see the rest of the media jumping on this as the huge story it is

This is the smoking gun, but what bothers me is the tone of the story at the same time kind of implies that it was just politics as usual

No it wasn't just politics as usual

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
5. The FBI persuaded the NYT to sit on the story, I think there was a big thread on it earlier. The NYT
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:34 PM
Mar 2017

... tried to backpage the story but they're part of the problem when it comes to Russia

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
6. Still no smoking gun, if you read the article
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

It's beyond question the Russians waged a covert campaign to disrupt the election, and it's highly probable that they tried to weaken Hillary as part of that disruption.

There's still not clear evidence that Trump's people were aware of the scope of Russian activities beyond what was publicly known, or that they coordinated their activities in any way. It's reasonable to suspect that that may have been the case, but we don't know and we might never really know.

still_one

(92,273 posts)
12. On December 10, 2015, Michael Flynn was Putin's personal guest honoring the Russian State owned
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:55 PM
Mar 2017

TV RT. Nothing to see here I am sure

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
18. Granted, that was fishy as hell and the Army is investigating if he was paid illegally
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:14 PM
Mar 2017

It still doesn't give us anything except circumstantial evidence of campaign collusion during the election.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
21. Jill Stein as welcomed guest need to be investigated too
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:35 PM
Mar 2017

I think her entire recount was a distraction. She knew where not to look and the others involved damaged
evidense

still_one

(92,273 posts)
29. Interesting point Maraya, since she garnered just enough votes to put trump in the WH
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:56 PM
Mar 2017

In Michigan Hillary lost by .3%. Stein received 1.1%. Similar results in Wisconsin, and the critical swing states. It definitely impacted the election

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. False bar, they don't have to be aware just in contact with Russian intel ... that's all is needed
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:42 PM
Mar 2017

... to impeach they punk ass's and it doesn't even have to be illegal... just appear untoward

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
11. You're talking about building a case for impeachment
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

Which is not the same as honestly assessing what information we have to support the idea of collusion before the election. The evidence is circumstantial.

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
19. Trump made that remark in late July
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

Guccifer 2.0, the GRU-created entity that hacked the DNC, was discovered by mid-June. The decision to hack would probably have been made sometime in May.

Trump clearly benefited from and simultaneously publicly downplayed the Russian hacks. It doesn't mean he was involved, though.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
20. No, hacking is not a single action and could be disjointed series of actions. Bottom line he invited
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:26 PM
Mar 2017

... and they hacked the steps pre invite don't exonerate Benedict Donald's collusion

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
25. Little Jefferson Beuregard Sessions
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:02 PM
Mar 2017

Was just outed as one of the traitors talking to the Russkies during the campaign, then lying under oath at his confirmation that he or no one else of the Fascist regime had any contacts. If so innocent Why did Flynn & him lie? Throw in the refusal by Putins puppet to reveal his taxes, the appointment to the cabinet of Tillerson, Ross, Flynn. Mannafort Working for the Ukranian Putin Puppet. The removal of the Ukrainian offensive weapon aid out of the Putin Publican platform. I am sorry, Lot of smoking guns!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
30. Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Mike Flynn, Felix Sater, Wilbur Ross, Rex Tillerson, Roger Stone
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

Every one of those people have connections to Russia. Some were dumped by Trump when they became inconvenient, some have been disavowed by hime. Some have made it to cabinet status - and then dumped.

Most of the the list were involved with Trump and/or his campaign months ago - and they are not all that have been named as having links to Russia.

AS for whether they might have been involved with dirty tricks during the campaign, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone had a business assisting campaigns here and abroad. Some of those campaigns had the same pattern of mud slinging and targeted lies as was seen in the 2016 US Presidential campaign.

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia
Jeff Nesbit
Updated: Aug 15, 2016 2:39 PM Eastern | Originally published: Aug 02, 2016

What’s more, three of Trump’s top advisors all have extensive financial and business ties to Russian financiers, wrote Boot, the former editor of the Op Ed page of the Wall Street Journal and now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

Trump’s de facto campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was a longtime consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the Russian-backed president of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014. Manafort also has done multimillion-dollar business deals with Russian oligarchs. Trump’s foreign policy advisor Carter Page has his own business ties to the state-controlled Russian oil giant Gazprom. ... Another Trump foreign policy advisor, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, flew to Moscow last year to attend a gala banquet celebrating Russia Today, the Kremlin’s propaganda channel, and was seated at the head table near Putin.


http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/


Another Cabinet Pick with Secret Ties to Putin and Oligarchs
There’s Still Time for Senators to Examine Wilbur Ross and His Mysterious Russian-Controlled Bank in Cyprus
A study prepared exclusively for DCReport.org by James S. Henry reveals deep financial ties between Donald Trump’s nominee for Commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, and three Russian oligarchs, whose lives and fortunes depend on staying in the good graces of Vladimir Putin.
https://www.dcreport.org/2017/02/25/another-cabinet-pick-with-secret-ties-to-putin-and-oligarchs/


Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates

By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MATTHEW ROSENBERG, ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZO
JAN. 19, 2017

The F.B.I. investigation into Mr. Manafort began last spring, and was an outgrowth of a criminal investigation into his work for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine and for the country’s former president, Viktor F. Yanukovych. In August, The Times reported that Mr. Manafort’s name had surfaced in a secret ledger that showed he had been paid millions in undisclosed cash payments. The Associated Press has reported that his work for Ukraine included a secret lobbying effort in Washington aimed at influencing American news organizations and government officials.

Mr. Stone, a longtime friend of Mr. Trump’s, said in a speech in Florida last summer that he had communicated with Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy group that published the hacked Democratic emails. During the speech, Mr. Stone predicted further leaks of documents, a prediction that came true within weeks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&_r=0


There are reams of information proving links between Russia, Trump and his associates going back decades. There is definitely a smoking gun - denying it denies reality.




ButSeeYa

(273 posts)
27. Brian Williams and Chris Matthews
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 11:12 PM
Mar 2017

Are filling in for Rachel tonight. They're talking Russia, Russia, Russia, and The NY Times piece that broke today. Not a word about the Trump "speech" last night.

Zo Zig

(600 posts)
22. Where is Rachael?
Wed Mar 1, 2017, 10:36 PM
Mar 2017

Is did the heavy lifting on yes story.


Release the Gorka!
(Been waiting to use that)

Marthe48

(16,977 posts)
31. Thank you President Obama and your staffers
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 01:36 PM
Mar 2017

Your effort to defend our country may save us from Russian rule because of traitor trump.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
32. Still would lilke to know why O chose not to release more before the election. Senator Wyden
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 05:06 PM
Mar 2017

thought they should have. I think there is more than just O didnt want to appear partisan. THis is just too important.

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