Vatterott fires president after he says he offered homeless student shelter in library from sub-zero

[pstokely]

Source: Fox 4

The recorded overnight temperatures outside Vatterott College on January 6th hit four degrees below zero. Carroll says that student had been sleeping in a wooded area near the school, but temperatures were too harsh that night, and the student had nowhere to seek warmth.

"I just didn't want to take the chance," Carroll said. "We had ice and snow."

"I had a tough choice to make. He can't stay on campus. I can't put him in my car. I can't take him to my house."

Carroll says the student had run out of his medication. He allowed the student to bed down in the school's library, and even though the student didn't steal or damage anything, Carroll was fired once the school's corporate leaders found out. The building has a series of surveillance cameras that can be viewed via remote, which is how Vatterott's Saint Louis-based management team found out.

Read more: http://fox4kc.com/2017/01/16/vatterott-fires-president-after-he-says-he-offered-homeless-student-shelter-in-library-from-sub-zero-temperatures/

[guillaumeb]

1. Management team values in action? eom

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Geez he was a student

Wonder what the Overlords would do to a vagrant?

[LeftInTX]

3. Had to Google Vatterott

It's a for profit thing....

[tavernier]

4. I would have taken him home,

but the library was better than the kid freezing to death.

[yeoman6987]

15. God grief instead of firing they'd probably charge you.

Good intentions but you have to be so careful now a days.

[tavernier]

21. Offering a child a warm room to sleep

when the temp is below freezing is not a questionable choice... it is the only choice. Screw their dirty minds. At some point people in this country have got to start using common sense once more.

[Chasstev365]

5. GREAT PR!

What a great decision on the school's part.

[pnwmom]

6. It's a for-profit "career training" college. They should be drummed out of business. n/t

[Crash2Parties]

14. And they apparently aren't even good at doing that:

August 26, 2014 3:12 PM A Missouri appeals court ruled Tuesday in favor of a Lee’s Summit woman who successfully sued a for-profit college, arguing that the school had deceived her about the value of her education.

Vatterott College had appealed the Jackson County Circuit Court jury verdict, which awarded Jennifer Kerr $27,676 in actual damages and $13 million in punitive damages. A judge later trimmed that $13 million to about $2 million to comply with a state damage cap.

According to the ruling, Kerr proved at trial that Vatterott deceived her into believing that credits earned from the college’s medical assistant program would transfer to a nursing degree.

Instead, the college enrolled Kerr in a medical office assistant program, which did not offer an associate’s degree but a less valuable certificate of completion.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article1303067.html#storylink=cpy

[The Wizard]

23. Career training?

What the hell does career training have to do with education? Perhaps reading Cardinal Newman's "The Idea of a University." should be a prerequisite before attaining any degree in higher education. There's a vast difference between training and education.
http://www.cardinalnewmansociety.net/university.html

[intheflow]

7. I don't understand why he couldn't "put him in my car (or) take him to my house."

Why ever not?

[DRoseDARs]

9. B/c just about any uni/college would have a strict policy against that.

The underlining purpose being to protect students from predatory professors/staff. It's easy to look at this after-the-fact and second guess the decision, but the president absolutely made the correct call to not house the student in his personal properties as that protected him and the student from worse trouble. That said, one wonders why he didn't set the student up for the night in a motel, though I suppose that could create a similar trap. Regardless, the management was within their rights to fire him, but clearly the facts were known before their decision. They didn't have to fire him, could have just reprimanded him, but they chose to be heartless assholes instead.

[Quackers]

20. Here's a good example

The NCAA says, for eight months a former assistant coach (Jerry Allen) provided free housing to a student-athlete (Sydney Moss) while she recovered from surgery. "Even though the former assistant coach and his family had an existing relationship with the student-athlete, NCAA rules do not allow college employees to provide cost-free housing to student-athletes," according to the release.


http://wvxu.org/post/ncaa-strips-thomas-more-womens-basketball-title-2014-2015#stream/0

[Alex4Martinez]

25. I don't understand why they "had to" fire him.

It seems to me that, while it broke some rule, maybe someone in the head office didn't like him.

That shit happens so much in education, an admin can commit all kinds of trouble and skate, but it they've got enemies the slightest thing can lead to the end of his or her career.

:/

[Akamai]

8. Carroll did the correct thing!!! Life is on the line. He has been following the youngster over time.

I would put the school's controlling group under unyielding examination. Early, often, and in great detail.

[Mopar151]

11. Heinous bastards.

Truly. These rotten bastiches did'nt go bad overnite. Their souls have been corroding for years. And Pres. Carrol needs a better employer, you know, someone on the human spectrum.

[Omaha Steve]

10. Vatterott runs TV commercials here all the time

I know an x-grad that hates them.

[Mopar151]

12. Voldemort U?

School teams are The Death Eaters.

I beleive I'd like to see the course catalog for Hogwarts.

[braddy]

13. A college president could have put him in any number of places, including a motel rm for the night.

[dalton99a]

16. Super 8 Kansas City, $45

[pstokely]

17. maybe the student didn't have a transportation

but Vatterott doesn't have dorms

[braddy]

18. Yep, for a high income person, that sure seems less risky than leaving a troubled homeless person

in the school library alone, overnight.

[pinboy3niner]

19. "In hindsight Carroll said he should have paid for a hotel room for the student...

...out of pocket. But even that, he told us, would likely have gotten him in trouble anyway if he had given the student a ride."

http://www.kmbc.com/article/former-vatterott-president-says-he-was-fired-for-a-good-deed/8604939

[Grins]

22. Better....

He should have wrapped the student in swaddling cloths and let him lie in a manger. I heard that works.

Ha! And then, if there was a protest, all the 'Christian' snake-handlers and early-onset dementia Evangelicals would come running - with their lawyers! Amiright?

[yellowcanine]

24. Sounds as if Mr. Carroll and the school are not a good fit anyway.

I suspect he will find a job where his values are appreciated.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

26. Oh, yes. How very much better it would be to let the student freeze.

Apparently that's what the college's management team thinks. Maybe they should spend a night outside in 4 below zero weather, and if they survive, might re-think their decision.