BREAKING NEWS Donald Trump wants Republicans to repeal the Affordable Care Act immediately....

[DonViejo]

Source: New York Times




BREAKING NEWS
Donald Trump wants Republicans to repeal the Affordable Care Act immediately and replace it "shortly thereafter," he told The Times

By MAGGIE HABERMAN and MARGOT SANGER-KATZJAN. 10, 2017

President-elect Donald J. Trump pressed Republicans on Tuesday to move forward with the immediate repeal of the Affordable Care Act and to replace it very quickly thereafter, saying, “We have to get to business. Obamacare has been a catastrophic event.”

Mr. Trump’s position undercuts Republican leaders who want a quick vote to repeal President Obama’s signature domestic achievement but who also want to wait as long as two to three years to come up with an alternative. But he was also challenging the resolve of nervous Republicans in Congress who do not want any vote on a repeal until that replacement exists.

Mr. Trump, who seemed unclear about the timing of already scheduled votes in Congress this week, demanded a repeal vote “probably some time next week,” and said “the replace will be very quickly or simultaneously, very shortly thereafter.”

That demand is very likely impossible. Republicans in Congress are nowhere close to agreement on a major health bill that would replace President Obama’s signature domestic achievement. A number of Republicans in the House and Senate have said publicly that they wanted to hold off on voting to eviscerate the health law until a replacement measure could be negotiated.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/repeal-affordable-care-act-donald-trump.html?emc=edit_na_20170110&nlid=57435284&ref=headline

[snooper2]

1. So did fuckface just change his mind again?

[iluvtennis]

2. Yet another walkback like he's done so MANY TIMES over the last 18 months. GAH nt

[Hortensis]

17. No, this is good. If he keeps it up, it should shine a spotlight

on the Republicans' complete lack of any plan for replacement. Only repeal. Also on the fact that replacement with equal or better would be impossible.

Go, Trump. Keep moving fast and keep to open areas. Don't let those handlers maneuver you into a closed space. And be very, very careful what you drink.

[iluvtennis]

24. It's good to bring to light that TraitorTrump is only for REPEAL...but I'd hope that he would...

..stay steadfast on replacement as well. There are over 30Million people on ACA right now who will lose their healthcare. I'm not okay with that.

[Hortensis]

25. Trump's not for only repeal, tho. He's for lower costs for business,

yes, but really, repealing the ACA was just an emotional populist issue he grabbed onto to get the crowds cheering for him.

It's the laissez-faire anti-government extremists, like Paul Ryan in congress and the Kochs in dark shadows, who have every intention of repealing, then delaying until resignation sets in, and NEVER replacing. They run congress and they are in the crowd of hyenas surrounding Trump, but he is not one of them.

Of course, Trump has no particular ideology and almost no understanding of or interest in most issues. As a number of observers have pointed out, the last person out of Trump's presence is most likely to have his schmoozing rewarded.

[okieinpain]

34. totally agree n/t.

[Javaman]

15. it's all about when he takes a blast of coke or adderall. nt

[bettyellen]

30. I'm starting to think this is the case.... he's probably afraid to do coke in the WH until he gets a

Feel for the security procedures there. But with his son so obviously strung out on coke he's probably saving his life by taking some off his hands while in NYC.
Did you see people have noticed him pocketing things strange young men who come to "shake his hand" in the lobby have passed him surreptitiously?

[Javaman]

31. No, I hadn't heard of this.

is there video or anything about this?

[bettyellen]

36. I saw a couple people taking about it on FB. Is there still that stupid 24 hour livestream of the

Lobby at Trump Tower? Two people mentioned they had seen it on two different days.

[HurricaneWarning]

66. Holy Crap!

I thought that was a joke!

[bettyellen]

78. It was friends of friends so I am not sure- but you know how he has been doing those trips down to

The lobby? They just noted it was odd that these guys weren't dressed in suits or at all polished like most people he paid mind too. I doubt he does handshakes with everyone who is lingering down there.

But you know - maybe they're those secret couriers he's talking about? Passing messages so others can take and make phone calls for him, like Paulie did in Goodfellas?

[Dawgman49]

58. Kelly the con

Is going to have a psychotic break having to spin this BS, unless she's half as sociopathic as he is

[thegoose]

65. Have faith

Her wonky mug will be out there on the news shows tonight. Brr...

This is an insane country with a bunch of shit-for-brains opportunists running the carnival.

[still_one]

3. I wasn't expecting anything less from these jerks. I also think his nazi,

fascist appointments will all get confirmed

I hope I am wrong.

[brush]

4. He has no idea what he's talking about. The repugs have had since 2010 to come up...

with a replacement and haven't yet.

trump doesn't have any comprehension of how complex creating a health care system is, and he's talking about replacing it "shortly".

[Zambero]

11. This had been attempted since FDR

Many times without success. Obama finally delivered the goods, imperfect as it was but a vast improvement for many who had been blackballed due to a pre-existing illness, or inability to afford insurance in order to get the care they needed. So will today's GOP be able to repeal ACA and come up with a better and/or more cost-effective plan, retain the current record level of insured individuals, while keeping the U.S. health care system solvent? Even the most strident right-wing reactionary would do well to not hold their breath at this point.

[TwistedTinkerbelle]

28. He's really good at giving out edicts from on high...

Without the slightest notion of what he's asking people to do. He still doesn't get he's not the CEO of the US, he doesn't sign their paychecks and they don't have to jump through hoops just because he demands they do so. I really believe he thinks this is nothing more than negotiating with a few insurance companies to come to terms--He has absolutely no understanding as to the complex structure of the ACA. The GOP knows damn well there is no other plan that will give their voters the same coverage they have right now for less unless they tweak the ACA or go single payer. And we all know single payer isn't anywhere near their bailiwick. The Twitter rants on this are going be epic.

[Plucketeer]

5. This IDIOT

gives DOLTS a bad name!

[randr]

6. They wanted someone ignorant of the system

They got the ignorant part for sure.

[Zambero]

7. But no one gets kicked off their insurance

KellyAnne promised that part. After all, it'll get replaced with a great and fantastic law that is much better, once it get conjured up by Congress at some point down the road. And if one has a pre-existing condition...?? No worries then?? Donald Trump inspires so much confidence, and by golly is he ever consistent with his remarks!

[marlakay]

8. I think he is angry at liberals and

Progressives for trying to stand against him, jealous no good entertainers will perform for him and this is a taste of our punishment if we do things he doesn't like or that hurt or shame him.

I have a bad feeling every time we stand up hard so will he no matter how much it hurts the country.

Very scary!

[AgadorSparticus]

43. And we keep standing up to him. Never kowtow to his bullying. NEVER.

In fact, we need to be louder. our voices need to be heard.

[LittleGirl]

51. I'm not going to lay down, no way! eom

[AgadorSparticus]

63. Good, littlegirl!!! NO ONE should ever be silent in the face of bullying.

And we need need to stand up for each other. That was what was so beautiful about meryl streep. It wasnt about politics. It was about standing up for each other. she used her bigger voice to defend the disabled reporter who couldn't.

We can ALL make that difference.

[not fooled]

79. Plus he's prolly trying to deflect

Take the heat off lil Beauregard as he lies his ass off during his Senate confirmation "hearing" (air quotes because clearly it's a joke and this unrepentant lying racist asshole gets confirmed).

Plus, the more public surfacing of the intelligence memo alleging that the Russkies have all sorts of sh*t on dump.


The worse the facts, the crazier the tweets.

[moonscape]

82. Yes, scary. But - the crazier he gets, the more moderate Republicans he's

in danger of losing. There are many on the brink, there must be, but they're silent because they have legislation they want to pass. But even they will have a breaking point, one of which will be not wanting to go down with the T ship as his unfavorables continue climbing.

[riversedge]

9. Trump threatens to campaign against Democratic senators in states he won.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/repeal-affordable-care-act-donald-trump.html?emc=edit_na_20170110&nlid=57435284&ref=headline&_r=0

.....Mr. Trump issued a political warning to Democrats who might stand in his way, saying he would campaign against lawmakers, especially in states that he won in November.

“It may not get approved the first time, and it may not get approved the second time, but the Democrats who will try not to approve it” will be at risk, warning that “they have 10 people coming up” for re-election in 2018. That alluded to Democratic senators in states he won.

“I won some of those states by numbers that nobody has seen. I will be out there campaigning,” he said........................

[kimbutgar]

13. Something tells me by the time this comes around he will be hated that he is stuck in the WH

Or in his tower. I see mass protests and upheavals wherever he shows up. No nice crowds but angry mobs. Little fingers is going to get old fast. His cult members will defend him u Gil they are embarrassed to say they voted fir him. He will go down as a hated figure even more than bush.

That Meryl Streep twit made him look like a pu$$y. Sorry cats.

[riversedge]

45. I sincerely hope you are spot on.

[NewJeffCT]

52. Unless there is a huge terror incident

which could very well be some sort of "False Flag" event, I suspect that Trump's already poor approval ratings will go down a few points every few months. Remember, by the time 2006 and 2007 rolled around, George W Bush had gone from a 90% approval rating post 9/11 to somewhere in the upper 20s. (Stephen Colbert at that awesome White House Correspondent's Dinner referred to those 20 percenters as the "backwash" if I recall.)

He's already around 37-51 approval now. On his current path, he'll be in the high 20s a year from now.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

87. Won't be surprised by an attack early on. You can't have disaster capitalism without

the disaster.

[BlueStateBlue]

19. I predict

he will be ancient history by then. I give this guy six months, and that's being generous.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

29. He thinks that he can bully everybody to get his way

I can't wait for us to prove him wrong.

[not fooled]

83. The way this would work

is that the kochs would pour $$$$ into defeating these senators (= buy teevee ads to con the dimwits into voting 'puke). Then, of course, dump would take credit.

[NYC Liberal]

85. "numbers that nobody has seen"

What a bald faced liar. He won swing states by extremely small margins -- most of the margins were smaller than the total votes won by Stein and Johnson.

[turbinetree]

10. I think all sexual predator business fascists flying around in B757-200 should release

there completed tax returns.

I want to know if he is collecting social security, he is after all 70 years of age, and he does get a SS deposit or check, because somewhere along his pay a scale he had to take his earnings and apply by law what he made before he did not have to pay anymore into his SS plan

[Wellstone ruled]

12. Appears this has become personal between the Con Job and

Mr. Obama. Could see this coming miles away. Remember,Obama is having going away party in Chicago with a packed house and A list entertainment. And you don't think Con Job is pissed,well you know damn well he is. Optics Baby.

[SHRED]

14. LOL...not gonna happen I predict

Repubs will have a Congressional republican civil war over ACA I predict.
The crazies will fight the less crazy.

[Angry Dragon]

16. Trump travels in circles like no other

[Phoenix61]

18. If they are going to break it

They need to break it now. Before the mid-term elections. I wish everyone the best but maybe, after enough people go to enough funerals that never should have happened they will pull their collective heads out of whatever orifice they are currently lodged in and get an effing clue.

[oasis]

40. Exactly. nt

[AgadorSparticus]

46. Yep. Some people only learn the hard way.

[Tatiana]

53. This is the only way the people will learn their lesson.

Unfortunately, many innocents will have to suffer needlessly.

If they are going to repeal, I hope they do it quickly.

[Turbineguy]

20. Please, Mr Trump

Give people some time to re-position their investment into death related areas.

[randome]

22. Hey, the premiums are WAY better in those kind of risk pools.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[geek tragedy]

21. our only goals are to make sure Trump and the Republicans accomplish as little as possible

and that they suffer as much damage as possible in the process.

[louis-t]

23. Yeah, go ahead, dumbass.

The chaos that follows will be on your head.

[guillaumeb]

26. Trump cares only for himself.

Anything else is a pretense of normality.

[itsrobert]

27. So he wants to shove it down our throats?

Using the language of the less sophisticated.

[Nitram]

32. This is good. They won't repeal it and he will look like a loser.

He'll blame the media. All will be forgiven.

[brutus smith]

33. Does a President elect have to take a drug test,

before he assumes office?

[wordpix]

38. Test or no, he's driving the US into the ditch just like GWB*

[cheyanne]

35. Tao of the demagogue: the uses of chaos

Chaos, uncertainty and fear are the basic building blocks of demagoguery. Trump does not have policy positions; his policy is to consolidate his power and silence his enemies. Chaos destabilizes government operations, creates fear which leads to demands by the people for strong leadership, i.e. loss of civil rights.

Some examples of gratuitous, vindictive chaos making:

-Requesting resignation of all political appointees overseas. Usually an administration keeps on these people to provide continuity and safe transfer of information during the time, which could be months, before their replacements are installed. It is in invitation to uncertainty and vulnerability to other nations' actions.

-Appointing people that are inexperienced in any form of public service, that want wholesale demolition of government agencies, and people who will follow his demands blindly. This will decimate the ranks of civil servants who will leave, pushed or voluntarily.

-Refusing to vet any of his appointees, allowing the chance for scandals to arise that will slow the actual job of governing, as well as protecting any conflicts of interest from being uncovered.

[underpants]

37. Ha! He's gong to blame it on the Congress Republicans

and his followers will follow him right along.

[oasis]

39. The GOP wants to slide past the 2018 election cycle with no "repeal" deaths

accountable to them.

[Vinca]

41. Sounds like widdle Donnie is having another temper tantrum.

[wordpix]

42. and at a cost of only $350 Billion over next 10 yrs., great idea (sarcasm)

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/04/news/economy/obamacare-repeal-deficit/

[Freethinker65]

47. Will whiplash be covered under the new healthcare plan?

[chimpymustgo]

56. Good one. The CON needs a court ordered psychiatric evaluation. nt

[keithbvadu2]

48. Democrats should STOP calling it Obamacare.

Democrats should STOP calling it Obamacare.

The GOP has framed it as stopping Obamacare which is an evil name to their base.

Start calling it only by the name 'ACA' and local names such as Kynect which people who have it like.

Many of the base do not know they are the same.

Keep hammering that republicans want to repeal what many of their base wants to keep.

'Republicans want to cancel your ACA healthcare insurance'

[mahatmakanejeeves]

50. I couldn't agree more.

It's the Affordable Care Act.

[subterranean]

49. I would like someone to ask him to explain what Obamacare is.

I don't believe he has any idea what it is or does. He just "knows" it's a "catastrophic event," a "disaster."

[Champion Jack]

54. He'll deny he said it tomorrow

[tavernier]

59. Winner Winner,

Chicken Dinner.

🐓
😂

[adigal]

73. Cause the Dementia President won't remember saying it.....NPD AND Dementia

What could go wrong???

[austinlw]

55. Democrats

need to come up with a good workable single payer alternative (or at least a public option to buy into Medicare) and clearly explain how it will cut costs. Explain that it will work like Medicare, which most folks think is a good system. Dangle it out there on all the news shows and give the public the opportunity to call their reps and tell them that's what they want as a replacement.

[tavernier]

61. NEWS shows??

[DeminPennswoods]

57. Dems should...

Dems should draft a single payer or medicare-for-all bill, then call it TRUMPcare (TeRrific Ultimate Medical Plan). With Trump, flattery will get you everywhere. Trump won't even care what's in it, just that his name is on it. If McConnell, Ryan, GOPers try to block it, Trump will be all over twitter berating them with nasty name-calling.

Besides, David Cay Johnson was on a show a couple days ago and said healthcare is one thing Trump really believes in. It's win-win.

[haele]

60. Okay, which of his buddies is shorting Insurance company stocks this week?

And were they the last to talk to him before this comment.

In the case of a Kleptocracy, one must always follow the money whenever a pronouncement is being made.

Haele

[asiliveandbreathe]

62. Republicans don't give a damn about what trump wants..they have the reins

of congress and WH - took 30 years..now they will dismantle any progress Democrats have made..they will impeach the con at the drop of a hat...or go after anyone who gets in their way..they call the shots now...

Trump is just their mouthpiece, they know what a baffoon he is...

I honestly think trumps latest outburst re the ACA is due to the President releasing detainees, designating new Fed. lands - and Barack telling the Dems not to work with the repubs re healthcare...boom..trumps head exploding...

[dhill926]

64. ok orange one...explain exactly how Obamacare...

has been a catastrophic event. Charts, complete sentences, anything will do. Yeah, right....ya fuckstick...

[C Moon]

68. I saw a post by some tea bag nut who brought up "remember that Obamacare website?"

[world wide wally]

67. Why does anybody besides Trump himself even pretend he knows what the fuck he is talking about?

[SunSeeker]

69. And with that he has issued the death warrants for thousands of Americans.

[adigal]

70. Once again, he just doesn't have a clue....or doesn't remember...President Dementia

I swear,the man doesn't remember what he says one week to the next. I think he has early Alzheimers, which is why he MUST have a family member with him at all times.

[geretogo]

71. Orange man is going to dictate to the 20 million ACA owners his replacement plan for Obama care .

" Don't get sick if you do die quickly " . I command you !!!!!

[Ruby the Liberal]

72. Please do, chicken shits. I triple dog dare you.

They know they own it now. They are also finding out that their idiot constituents think the ACA and Obamacare are 2 different things.

Go for it.

[Scalded Nun]

74. I am surprised he has not been briefed

It is Obamacare and not to be referred to as ACA.

[Thor_MN]

75. We could solve the world's energy issues if we could couple a generator to Trump's flip-flos.

[cstanleytech]

77. Sounds to me like the Republicans know that any plan they might propose would be utter shit compared

to Obamacare and they just dont want to admit it.

[not fooled]

80. *Sigh*

It's ALREADY Heritagecare. It's THEIR EFFING PLAN.

They just don't want the black guy to get credit.

Bunch of racist pricks.

[KewlKat]

81. WITH THIS RELEASE OF RUSSIAN INFO, THE BASTARD HAS TO CHANGE THE CONVERSATION FAST

this walkback is another bait and switch and change the narrative....nothing more!

Keep the media on this russian info about what he and his campaign have done to our nation!

[tclambert]

84. "Shortly thereafter" means "never," doesn't it?

[AgadorSparticus]

86. Not gonna lie. In a sick way, I find this fascinating

Dumbasses are going to vote against their interest and they will not learn until it hits them hard. I have come to accept that innocent people will die because of these assholes. It is what it is.

But it is very true. Be careful what you wish for, it may come true. It will be interesting to see how the gop handles this. They have to save face and honor their campaign pledge to dismantle the ACA and yet must walk a fine line as to not wound too many of their base. Otherwise, They risk losing that voting block for the midterms.

So now they need to repeal immediately and they have nothing to replace it with. Bwahahaha. You would think they would have spent SOME time in the last 2 years to address this. But, no. Not a damn thing. Just a lot more hot air and bullshit jaw jaw.

That is some seriously bad leadership.

I am just going to sit back and watch the shit show with these clowns. I just get the strange feeling the ACA isn't going too far away--not for awhile anyways. We shall see...

[xor]

89. I've been saying it would be an interesting show to watch

if I didn't have to live in it. :/

[AgadorSparticus]

90. Exactly. I wish it wasn't real. But here we are what can we do.

[xor]

88. Jesus. This guy is more screwed up than I thought.

What will his opinion be tomorrow?