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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:43 PM Dec 2016

Trump backer says he's 'not a racist' after insults against Obamas published

Source: Associated Press

Posted: Dec 27, 2016 7:40 PM ET

A former Donald Trump campaign official who wrote that he wanted to see Barack Obama dead of mad cow disease and Michelle Obama living with a gorilla in Africa now says those comments weren't meant for publication but were nevertheless "inappropriate."

Carl Paladino, a millionaire developer, one-time Republican candidate for governor and co-chairman of Trump's New York campaign, issued a statement Tuesday expressing regret for the insults, four days after their publication in the local weekly newspaper Artvoice.

<snip>

But in the lengthy statement, Paladino also took fresh aim at the president, calling him a "traitor to American values," and said he wouldn't resign from Buffalo's school board, which called a special meeting later in the week to discuss his comments.

"I don't intend to yield to the fanatics among my adversaries. I certainly am not a racist," he wrote.

Paladino also said for the first time that he never meant to make his comments public. He said they were only intended to go to friends, but he mistakenly hit "reply" on his computer instead of "forward."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/paladino-comments-inappropriate-1.3913638?cmp=rss

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Trump backer says he's 'not a racist' after insults against Obamas published (Original Post) inanna Dec 2016 OP
Anybody who has to argue that he's not really a racist almost certainly is one. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #1
Also, he only apologized to the minority community DrToast Dec 2016 #2
"signalled that he knew people might find them racially insensitive." Might? You knew damn well that cstanleytech Dec 2016 #3
How about bigot; does bigot work for you? brooklynite Dec 2016 #4
Much better. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #6
That classic combination of viciousness and stupidity. NT enough Dec 2016 #5
I notice that we are being called "fanatics" a lot, here lately. jaysunb Dec 2016 #7
Don't believe any apologies from this jerk democratisphere Dec 2016 #8
how could he be a racist, those comments were only meant for his racist friends ... olddad56 Dec 2016 #9
carl paladino is a deranged lunatic. Always has been. Squinch Dec 2016 #10
Thats why he and Trump are such good friends! Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #14
Racist conservative don't have a clue what the term "racism" means. Nitram Dec 2016 #11
Paladino can go fuck himself. Racist asshole!!! AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #12
This is not the first time Paladino--previously sent "racist jokes and pornography."!!.... riversedge Dec 2016 #13
I'm not a racist by my definition of the word racist which I define as whatever I say Solly Mack Dec 2016 #15
"I certainly am not a racist" Snarkoleptic Dec 2016 #16
Here's a good mashup of not-racist-Paladino Snarkoleptic Dec 2016 #17
Hit "reply" on his computer instead of "forward". No Vested Interest Dec 2016 #18
I was shocked to hear a school board member say such things publicly Generic Other Dec 2016 #19
True EVIL to even have such hateful ugly thoughts Raine Dec 2016 #20
any comment from Trump Voters who are outraged at people saying they are bigots for voting Trump ? JI7 Dec 2016 #21
Oh, please! Behind the Aegis Dec 2016 #22
+infinity BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #23
From the NY Times Botany Dec 2016 #24
He's something worse than a racist. Vinca Dec 2016 #25
Right, it's your opposition who are 'fanatics', you rabid insane nazi freak. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #26
There are 2 things racists really really hate Zorro Dec 2016 #27
Paladino saying he's not racist is the real joke. Renew Deal Dec 2016 #28
Paladino is a truly deformed piece of shit BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #29
No complaint from Trump left-of-center2012 Dec 2016 #30
Most racists don't consider themselves racists, but they are still_one Dec 2016 #31
Me thinks he doth protest too much. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #32
FIRE THE Republican Hater & get school board officials who FOCUS ON KIDS, SCHOOLS & EDUCATION Sunlei Dec 2016 #33
Oh, they never are! louis-t Dec 2016 #34
"I don't think, therefore I am not." -nt Bradical79 Dec 2016 #35

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,734 posts)
1. Anybody who has to argue that he's not really a racist almost certainly is one.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:46 PM
Dec 2016

And the terrible things you say that you meant only your friends to see are still terrible things.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
2. Also, he only apologized to the minority community
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:49 PM
Dec 2016

As if you'd only be offended by what he said if you're a minority.

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
3. "signalled that he knew people might find them racially insensitive." Might? You knew damn well that
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:00 PM
Dec 2016

is exactly what they were when you sent them you prick.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
7. I notice that we are being called "fanatics" a lot, here lately.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:16 PM
Dec 2016

It must have been in the latest memo....

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
8. Don't believe any apologies from this jerk
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:24 PM
Dec 2016

He is notorious for running his mouth off and displaying alot of false bravato. Figures he is a blowhard drumpf supporter.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
9. how could he be a racist, those comments were only meant for his racist friends ...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:33 PM
Dec 2016

that doesn't count. No way could be a racist.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
14. Thats why he and Trump are such good friends!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:34 PM
Dec 2016

Its like they are brothers from another mother! On second thought, they probably are!

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
11. Racist conservative don't have a clue what the term "racism" means.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:03 PM
Dec 2016

They blithely assume it couldn't 't possibly ally to them. I mean, of course it was totally random that he chose Africa and a gorilla to populate his rancid fantasy about Michell Obama.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
12. Paladino can go fuck himself. Racist asshole!!!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:26 PM
Dec 2016

I am still raging over what he said about Michelle Obama. Just.....

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
13. This is not the first time Paladino--previously sent "racist jokes and pornography."!!....
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:33 PM
Dec 2016




The board is holding a special meeting Thursday to "discuss board member conduct." In New York, school board members typically can only be removed by the state education commissioner.

Paladino, 70, has gotten into trouble over emailed material before. During his unsuccessful run for governor in 2010 he apologized for forwarding emails to friends that included racist jokes and pornography.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
15. I'm not a racist by my definition of the word racist which I define as whatever I say
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:34 PM
Dec 2016

- no matter how racist - that wasn't intended to be heard/seen by everyone.

Miracle of affliction.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
19. I was shocked to hear a school board member say such things publicly
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:28 AM
Dec 2016

Makes way more sense that these comments were meant for private guffaws with his good old boy pals in the pointy hoods.

YUK YUK YUK. Aint he witty?

The lame explanation is almost worse than the original comments. Almost.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
21. any comment from Trump Voters who are outraged at people saying they are bigots for voting Trump ?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:08 AM
Dec 2016

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
22. Oh, please!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:20 AM
Dec 2016

People like this are only trying to convince themselves they aren't racists/bigots. Any minority person has likely come across such a person.

"It's just a joke! Lighten up!"

"I wasn't talking about you!"

"You aren't like those people!"

"You are a credit to your kind because you aren't a stereotype."

"There are (epithet)s, and then there are (politically/social correct name)." (e.g. "There are "faggots" and then there are gay people.&quot

"Just because I point out the truth, it doesn't make me a bigot!"


As someone who is gay and Jewish, I have heard many variations, sometimes not in a good way. I would be willing to bet that most, if not all, African-American posters here have heard similar things. Too many will say, "If that makes me a racist/homophobe/anti-Semite, then so be it. I (a white person/heterosexual/gentile) won't let someone like you (an African-American/gay man or lesbian/Jew) tell me I am a bigot!" Some even laugh it off with shitty comments like, "How expected!" or "You people are always saying things are bigoted against your people!" or "Are you really going to play the (minority) card?!"

Yeah, shit like this is way more common than many are willing to admit. But, when these people really want to make a point, they always resort to...."some of my best friends/my father (other family member)/my neighbor are/is (the minority in question)." Sometimes, they actually are a member of the minority group, as if that magically absolves them.

Not all bigots wear sheets or armbands, many wear jeans and t-shirts. Not all bigots use the "real bad words", they simply rely on more acceptable forms of bigotry. Not all bigots are uneducated, knuckle-draggers. Not all bigots are conservatives. Not all bigots are straight, white, able-bodied, cis-gendered, Christian, men. No, sadly, bigotry comes in all forms, and usually comes with all forms of excuses.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
24. From the NY Times
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:11 AM
Dec 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/nyregion/carl-paladino-michelle-obama.html?_r=0

Asked what he wanted to see “go away in 2017,” Mr. Paladino answered, Michelle Obama, “I’d like her to return to being a male and let loose in the outback of Zimbabwe where she lives comfortably in a cave with Maxie, the gorilla.”

He also wrote that he hoped President Obama would die of mad cow disease. His comments were published with those of three dozen other survey respondents.

snip

Mr. Paladino said that statement was a draft written by his brother-in-law, which he did not intend to send.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
25. He's something worse than a racist.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:14 AM
Dec 2016

We need a new word for this idiot/nutjob/racist/pervert/homophobe/woman hater. Once it's created it will probably be too vile for a dictionary.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
33. FIRE THE Republican Hater & get school board officials who FOCUS ON KIDS, SCHOOLS & EDUCATION
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:18 AM
Dec 2016
DU is ranked the#1 Democratic Party message board, in the entire world. It's widely read, tops google searches easily and I will use it to go after these asshole Republicans. Sunlei 12/2016
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