Harry Reid blasts 'worthless' DNC in blistering critique of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
Source: RawStory
TANA GANEVA
22 DEC 2016 AT 15:07 ET
In a sign that Democrats have begun to face party failures that may have helped Donald Trump win the Presidency, outgoing Senator Harry Reid let loose on the DNC and its former head, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
Speaking with Nevada Public Radio, Reid declared, I believe one of the failures of Democratic Party has been the DNC, the Democratic National Committee has been worthless. They do nothing to help state parties, which should be the main goal they have. He goes on to note their lack to involvement in helping prop up state Democrats in Nevada.
Reid also attacked that congresswoman from Florida, a reference to Schultz.
So I would hope that they would choose a chair of the Democratic Party who is a full-time person. Not someone like we had with that congresswoman from Florida, who was a full-time congresswoman and a part time chair of the DNC, Reid said. We need a full time DNC chair. He goes on go advise that the DNC prioritize building party infrastructure state by state. That would change politics a lot in America, Reid concludes.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/harry-reid-blasts-worthless-dnc-in-blistering-critique-of-debbie-wasserman-schultz/
vlakitti
(401 posts)Maybe. But good for Harry Reid for trying to get a critique going.
SharonAnn
(13,779 posts)Our Dems (here in a Red state) get dreamy-eyed about the presidency, where our votes won't really make a difference, and completely fail to organize for local and state campaigns.
I can remember many fruitless discussions and attempts to develop awareness over the last 15 years. pretty much wasted.
It's hell being Cassandra. I can see what's coming, warn people about it, they ignore it, and it happens. in a couple of cases i did actually say "I told you so."
wordpix
(18,652 posts)as a sure thing. If we ordered signs a month ahead and paid $4.50/sign, we could get some. Meanwhile, the repugs are making inroads in our state legislative elections in a big way and the governor could easily be a repuke next time around. Ditto the state House. The state Senate is already split, 1/2 and 1/2.
PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)If the party takes the approach he recommends, we will be in a much better position in a decade. On other notes, we MUST have outlets to get OUR word out that are not corporate-owned and can genuinely challenge the right wing noise machine. We're also going to have to filibuster all Trump Supreme Court picks for the next four years. Otherwise we WILL be set back more than we already have been.
And, there's one other thing - a major, major thing. The party needs to get rid of the fear of corporate donors, and begin forwarding policies and legislation THAT ACTUALLY HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE instead of merely paying lip service to public goods like national health care, Medicare, Social Security and public (not private EVER) prisons. Bernie aside, if the Democratic members of Congress weren't so afraid of being defeated in the next election and began vocally and forcefully touting these policies, OUR PARTY WOULD BECOME A JUGGERNAUT AND WIN BY LANDSLIDES.
Hear that Dem party bigwigs (who might read this, hopefully!)? I"m so very sorry to say it, but in my 58 years, I have seen most rank and file (D) and (R) elected officials become altogether too beholden to corporate donors and this cannot continue in OUR party. We have a few statesmen and stateswomen, but just a few. We need more. We must get rid of the so-called hacks and empty suits and fill those seats with people who actually want to govern in the name, and in the interest, of the American people. New Deal Democrats, that's what I'm talking about.
So...that's my 2 cents. I've been a registered Democrat since I was about 25. I've read lots of things, and seen lots of things, and I know what I know. I'm not trying to cut down the party with these words, but to make it better, more representative of what it COULD BE rather than what it IS. Call me an idealist, if you will, but I would rather be known as a New Deal Democrat. Or perhaps a New Deal Social Democrat. Yes, that's it.
And, please don't tell me these things are 'pie in the sky.' As a well known newspaper columnist once said, "There are about 800 people in Washington, DC that actually call the shots. If they wanted social and economic justice, we would have it...NOW." (yes, that's a paraphrase - I don't remember the exact quotation). But the fellow was right. We could have a government that makes this country a much, much better place to live in - for EVERYONE, not just the rich. We could have a foreign policy that doesn't make horrible mistakes leading to tragedies like the current world refugee crisis. Yes, I'm speaking of the American overthrow of Qaddafi that released all controls on human trafficking up from Africa. Now, we have capitalist criminals making massive profits on the refugees, soaking them of all their wealth every step of the way.
You know, if we wanted to make this earth into a desert, we've been going in that direction for some time.
Not to mention global warming which is the elephant in the room because it affects all of us.
Social Security, Medicare.
We have 'boots on the ground' in 147 different countries right now, did you know?
We spend 52 cents out of every $1 collected in tax revenue for 'defense' and this takes away money for our children. God dammit, don't just pay lip service to that. Get it fixed.
Well, it has become a rant, but then I am every bit as frustrated with what has happened as you all are. Somehow, though, we are going to have to move the party to the so-called left (the direction that most benefits the average American) in order to start winning elections. Because why in the hell should people vote for the establishment candidates of either party? Tell me that. Because that hasn't done us much good for some time now.
I mean, I have less real purchasing power NOW than I did back in the 90s when I was MUCH younger. That's because 'our' government has allowed the military industrial complex and other corporate interests to rape our treasury.
Tell me...do you think we will be able to climb out of this hole into which we've dug ourselves? Or will we be buried?
progressoid
(49,999 posts)potone
(1,701 posts)Obviously not Keith Ellison.
think
(11,641 posts)potone
(1,701 posts)Ellison is in Congress; he can't do the job full-time, as Reid says it should be done.
MsLeopard
(1,265 posts)His congressional seat if elected DNC chair. That's the last I've heard.
warmonger456
(16 posts)I've also read the same thing although I can't remember exactly where. But NOT fake news, I swear.
Also, Sen. Sanders also supports Ellison for DNC Chair. Just FYI.
lapucelle
(18,351 posts)Rincewind
(1,205 posts)or, ever. He ran as a Democrat, so he wouldn't be ignored as a third party candidate, but he never officially joined the Democratic party.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Is there some sort of ceremony that I missed when I registered 32 years ago?
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)lapucelle
(18,351 posts)already had in place. Sanders's vanity did untold damage to the country, and he will not be remembered kindly by history.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-15/sanders-yes-im-a-democrat-of-convenience
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)On a side note, he is the most pouplar Senator in the country. iMO, because he resonates wirh many people.
Http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-most-popular-senator-453479
mdbl
(4,976 posts)A lot of people bash him because he's not a party member. I hope, someday, the Democratic Party reflects enough of his values that he feels he can join us.
lapucelle
(18,351 posts)"Morning Consult surveyed 62,288 registered voters across the country to determine how they felt about their home-state senators"
Of course he is popular with the people of Vermont who are the beneficiaries of both a military pork bill and of a scheme that dumps Vermont's toxic waste in poor neighborhoods thousands of miles away in Texas. I wonder how the people of Texas would view him if the Sierra Blanca mess was more widely publicized.
While some might not care whether Sanders is a Democrat, I'm sure there are many Democrats who do, I among them. I have absolutely no respect for opportunists.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/why-bernie-sanders-is-backing-a-15-trillion-military-boondoggle.html
http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-pushed-to-dump-nuclear-waste-on-low-income-community/
IronLionZion
(45,543 posts)Ellison is the type of DNC chair we need. Unless Dean wants the job back. We need to rebuild at local levels to combat voter suppression and encourage turnout. Someone from the upper Midwest (MN and MI) would be a great choice.
Akamai
(1,779 posts)He looked square at the camera and said that if he were made head of the DNC, he would resign his congressional seat.
zippythepinhead
(374 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)to start with?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Might you have a reason for the dismissal?
mopinko
(70,258 posts)hope obama follows in his footsteps.
and yeah, the party just doesnt support any candidates that dont look like good little puppets.
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vi5
(13,305 posts)He's spot on. This was a profound failure that came following an amazing 2008 ground game under Dr. Dean.
The DNC went from being what Reid describes it as needing to be, to nothing more than a campaign office for a handful of loyalist politicians with their own agendas.
volstork
(5,403 posts)Is he really under consideration?
PatSeg
(47,624 posts)He was really good as DNC chair, but he evidently doesn't have a lot of friends at the DNC.
elleng
(131,163 posts)Rahm, for one, can't stand him, and submarined the 50 state policy, from what I can tell.
I attended a book promotion in DC (Politics & Prose) years ago, re: Rahm+'s book, and asked whether the Party would include Dean's 50 state strategy. He refused to answer.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Emmanuel is the epitome of the machine politician who stands for nothing other than his own ambition.
elleng
(131,163 posts)spread around the Dem party.
volstork
(5,403 posts)It has always surprised me that he and Obama were friends. Maybe they weren't, maybe it was just a politically expedient relationship...
notdeplorable
(36 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)It helps, but competence is most important. But Emmanuel does not even demonstrate competence as Mayor.
PatSeg
(47,624 posts)as Dean was really good at the job. Guess he wasn't one of the in-crowd. Really pisses me off. Hopefully we won't get someone equivalent to Wasserman Schultz again.
warmonger456
(16 posts)The 50 State strategy ought to be an obvious strategy and I could never understand why anyone who wants to grow the party and win elections nationwide would oppose it.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)I loathe Rahm Emanuel for many things, but most for how he treated Dean.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)we don't need it going repuke
LS_Editor
(893 posts)How many state legislative seats and governorships did she lose during her tenure? How many Congressional seats?
She can only claim to be a success if she was a Republican plant.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)I like most of what he did as Prez, but he had some mistakes too, and that was a BIG one. Wasserman Schultz STUNK!!!
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I remember seeing threads here on DU with steadfast support for DWS, even in the face of truth which was revealed in hacked emails. Duer's were cheering for her. I just did not understand that. We do have party views that need updating.
MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)to avoid the hassle.
Debbie threatened to scream he was anti-Semitic AND anti-woman if he got rid of her.
Personally, I think she helped the Democrats not only lose the Senate and House, but the White House as well. She was involved in a LOT of shenanigans to "help Hillary" that she didn't need to do. Hillary would have won the nomination fairly and without the "assist," but Debbie's tilting the playing field left a bad taste in lot of peoples' mouths.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)The Wizard
(12,549 posts)running against her Republican friends in the House.
catsudon
(855 posts)and this is a good start.
LuvLoogie
(7,037 posts)He'd win the news cycle every week.
SharonAnn
(13,779 posts)I love him, but the President is the "titular" head of his party. And it failed.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)PatSeg
(47,624 posts)what I was saying for months before Wasserman Schultz resigned from the DNC. Why on earth would anyone think such a position was a part time job?
moondust
(20,010 posts)I don't remember anybody's hair on fire trying to GOTV--knowing the racists and Teabaggers would turn out in droves.
Maybe I missed it but I've never heard an explanation from the person who was in charge.
think
(11,641 posts)Ellen Forradalom
(16,160 posts)You don't see anyone demanding his head on a platter.
think
(11,641 posts)moondust
(20,010 posts)maybe took some of the pressure off Kaine for the disaster in 2010.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)elleng
(131,163 posts)He was/is part of Dem party leadership, right?
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)jalan48
(13,892 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
JudyM
(29,290 posts)You completely squandered our opportunity to make headway when we had both the WH and the Senate. You famously didn't believe McConnell when he said making Obama a 1-term president was job #1 for senate republicans. And then you sat on your butt when they obstructed everything he tried to do. Talk about worthless. It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy if it means you can't help Obama make progress and you had more of an opportunity than anyone to help with that.
MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)He lit into my Senator Merkley when he tried to reform the filibuster, saying he would take Mitch at his word to use the filibuster sparingly.
Anyone else would have known right then that Mitch was lying.
JudyM
(29,290 posts)after month.
So now that he's leaving he has something barely controversial to say.
zippythepinhead
(374 posts)IMO!
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Skittles
(153,204 posts)and I am SICK of Nancy Pelosi
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Tell that to Senator-elect Catherine Cortez-Masto, who in January will be the first woman and Latina senator from Nevada.
You would be laughed at in your face.
Reid knows all about political machines having run one. Anybody who has ever gone against the mob is not a wimp.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Know full well were he is coming from. Here in Nevada,if it was not for Harry bringing in Campaign funds for our Democratic Candidates,we would have lost big time. Forget about funding coming the DNC,nothing,we were very fortunate to have a few deep pocket anti Sheldon Adelson folks step up and fund our Candidates.
Harry was right to blast Wasserman-Schultz,she sure loved the photo Ops at the Casino's, but that seemed to be all it was.
And again,it was SEIU folks who really made it happen. We set the new Democratic Party template.
Warpy
(111,360 posts)I've been disgusted with them since the Carter administration. Gee, it only took 40 years for somebody in the halls of power to speak up.
You'd think the party would have learned something from Dean's turnaround, taking the party from being a regional party back to being a national party but no-o-oo. Those conservatives are so damned sure they're right about everything that they went right back to their loser "strategy" as soon as he stepped down.
So give 'em hell, Harry. Just don't expect a conservative to listen to anything but the sound of his own voice.
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Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Still dancing a jig that she is gone from leadership.
It will take decades to undo the damage at the state levels that could have been prevented.
lapucelle
(18,351 posts)He was lobbied by many Democrats (including Clinton loyalists) to replace DWS well in advance of the primaries.
President Obama was an exceptional statesman and an inspirational leader, but he had little stomach for down and dirty political fighting. That's one of the reasons why, on January 21, 2017, President Trump will be naming his pick for Supreme Court seat that has been vacant for almost a year
SharonAnn
(13,779 posts)down and dirty fighting. Just be the general. or even "Commander in Chief' of the political war. And this has been a war and will continue to be.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)got me a hide in the general election. I can't stand anyone who fights for those vultures. The rates they charge would make a mafia loan shark blush.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)Rahm Emanuel, who discontinued the 50-state policy right after Howard Dean left (or was forced out). It started with Tim Kaine in 2009. DWS just inherited it.
I am no fan of DWS, but I am sick and tired of people inordinately ragging on her. Why not on Tim Kaine and Donna Brazile as well? Kaine was Chair for the debacle in 2010. Brazile was interim until DWS was selected in 2011 and then interim after DWS was forced out this year. There is plenty of blame to go around.
A LOT of us complained about the fact that the 50-state strategy - that helped to elect Prez O in 2008 - was discontinued. No one took us seriously.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but how did he shit can the 50 state strategy? Shouldn't the responsibility fall on the DNC chair at the time? Kaine didn't take as much heat as Payday Loan Debbie, because at least the president got re-elected, and he didn't support republican friends like she did.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)Staff in 2009 and "shit-canned" Dean for the HHS Cabinet Post that Dean wanted. Rahm also discouraged Kaine from continuing to follow Dean's strategy. Yes, Kaine should have stood up to him (and didn't) and yes, Prez O won again in 2012. But Dems lost the House in 2010 by almost as much as in 2016 and, as you know, have not regained it since. Donna Brazile & DWS apparently did not learn anything when they took over respectively in 2011 (and Donna again in 2015( as Dems lost the Senate majority in 2014 and should have won in 2016.
As DWS is among the most recent and a lot of people hate her for many reasons, the vitriol against her is particularly virulent. One might also venture to state that is also because she is a woman. There's plenty of blame to go around and I am particularly sick of the blatant misogyny shown through the 2016 campaign.
For one look at the "relationship" between Howard Dean and Rahm Emanuel, try this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/02/25/the-long-and-amazing-feud-between-rahm-emanuel-and-howard-dean/?utm_term=.27768936fa40
http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/66811:howard-deans-50state-strategy-pays-off
http://www.governing.com/blogs/politics/gov-democrat-howard-deans-fifty-state-strategy.html
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I had forgotten about that. My problem with DWS isn't her gender- it is her ineffectivity. I couldn't stand McAulliffe (spelling?) either. Kaine somehow flew under my radar.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)speaking out about this now - and I include Harry Reid, whom I adore - SHOULD have been making a fuss about it from 2010 on. The handwriting was on the wall then.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)One of Obama's biggest failures was to dismantle Howard Dean's 50-state strategy.
And NO SITTING CONGRESSPERSON to head the DNC.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)someone from our Party called it like it is.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)The DNC & DWS on this site during the primaries and was reprimanded by a jury of my peers.
I expect apologies to be forthcoming
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I won't get my hidden post reinstated, either.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..sooner.
Many of us have been concerned and writing and calling about the DNC for years. They kept snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again and again.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Some will say thou shalt not criticize Debbie.
Remind me to quote this article next time I get hidden for saying the exact same thing Reid did.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)While I agree the DNC has plenty of soul searching to do, they had this to say post mortem:
"We are pissed at them and state parties are pissed at them because they lost due to arrogance," a top DNC staffer tells U.S. News, sharing the candid sentiment suffusing the high levels of the committee in exchange for anonymity.
It's no surprise that the hierarchy of the Clinton campaign leadership was insular and self-assured. But DNC staffers say the team's presumptuous, know-it-all attitude caused it to ignore early warning signs of electoral trouble inside the states, and demoralized DNC staff who felt largely marginalized or altogether neglected for most of the campaign."
http://www.usnews.com/news/the-run-2016/articles/2016-11-11/dnc-staff-arrogance-cost-hillary-clinton-the-election-vs-donald-trump
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)I've yet to read that she accepts even 1% responsibility.
That being said, we forgot it was ALWAYS going to be an uphill battle to get her elected. Our country tends to flip from one party to the other when it comes to the presidency. Other than GHWB's single term following Reagan, neither party has held the presidency for more than 8 years since Truman followed FDR. That was over 60 years ago. She had a chance because Trump was just so awful.
Raine
(30,541 posts)Renew Deal
(81,879 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,332 posts)then do the opposite.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,332 posts)to cave on the Florida 2000 recount
What kind of leadership is that? and with friends like him, who needs enemies?
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)all the successful Chairmen have done it full time. I don't know what made BO think Debbie could do it part time! (I heard she was picked by our Prez.)
zippythepinhead
(374 posts)What a nice shit storm that would create.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)And then Keith Ellison wouldn't have to give up his seat in the House.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)The democrats need a 50 state strategy, down to local school boards. We need to really pay more attention to Main Street than Wall Street.
The best outcome of this disaster would be the Orange Fraud not killing us all but doing poorly enough that it sets back the far right wing and leads to a new New Deal. A girl can dream, even if it isn't likely due to the Fox News led dumbing down of America.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Sad thing is she will likely muscle herself into being my states candidate for governor, which means hello Florida governor Adam Putnam.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Namely one of the big damn gaping holes in the Democratic party are a bunch of Democrats who are very willing to mount weak resistance to their "friends" in both both Tallahassee and Washington. Schultz is responsible for the fiasco gubernatorial campaigns of both Alex Sink and Charlie Crist, which kept Rick Scott in the governor's mansion as he was busy gutting the Voting Rights act. If she runs as governor, not only will she be ditching popular Tampa mayor Bob Buckhorn, but play into Adam Putnam, who is actually the last of the GOP that actually believes in supporting Social Security, and who gets and takes hell for it.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Just ask any Sanders supporter.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)pfitz59
(10,398 posts)should have a Dem as a choice. Even the technically non-partisan positions. No Precinct Committee should lack an elected leader, even a committee of one. do not surrender. Never let a Repuke run unopposed. Demand accountability... make the Dem leadership actually lead..
Duppers
(28,127 posts)Fix The Stupid
(948 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)take back control of LOCAL communities.
"blasting headlines" and criticizing every D who works/works hard- does nothing good for Ds except divide. you aid Republicans and are part of the problem Ds have.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)I'd add that Hillary's awful campaign sealed the deal for Trump, but I'd probably get tombstoned.
I don't care anymore. Somebody has to say it. The Dems couldn't have picked a worse candidate.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)The DNC absolutely needs a "full-time" person. Dems have lost over 900 legislature seats and a dozen governorship's during the last eight years. The focus needs to go back to the state level.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)gave Rahm Emanuel all the credit for Dean's successful strategy.
HenryWallace
(332 posts)To be crying in your beer!!!
The fight for the party started within days of the election........
Ellison is squarely the choice of the progressive left.... As much symbolic as substantive: an early Sanders backer who Sanders eagerly endorsed.
To his credit Dean withdrew his name relatively quickly, not wanting to the DNC chair vote to become a plebiscite on core party beliefs and for the need for radical change.
Yet now enter one Thomas Perez, progressive champion of the Democratic establishment...... Most probably, the rational centrist choice. A good, solid, rational, practical, realist; in the Obama model.
Who will state DNC delegates pick?
cannabis_flower
(3,768 posts)Texas for years except to swoop in for high ticket fundraising events in places like River Oaks.
red dog 1
(27,866 posts)PufPuf23
(8,840 posts)its not like Reid wasn't a Democratic party leader or anything like that.