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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:45 PM Dec 2016

Woman faces ban from Jefferson Mall after unruly outburst

Source: whas11.com

9:48 AM. EST December 21, 2016

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WHAS11) Officials with Jefferson Mall released a statement following a womans outburst at a JCPenney where she verbally abused two Hispanic women.

The viral video was released Tuesday after an elderly customer berated the two women after she claimed one of them jumped the line.

According to Renee Buckner, the original poster of the video, she said one of the Hispanic women was purchasing items nearing the end of her transaction. Things went sour after that womans friend brought up two additional items to be purchased.

<snip>

In a statement, Jefferson Mall said:

"We are aware of the video posted online today from inside JCPenney. Jefferson Mall strives to create a comfortable and convenient experience for all of our guests and we absolutely do not condone this type of behavior. We will work with JCPenney to identify this woman and once identified, she will permanently be banned from Jefferson Mall, per our behavior code."

Read more: http://www.whas11.com/news/local/woman-faces-ban-from-jefferson-mall-after-unruly-outburst/375589762



2X on racist video: You cannot stay silent

Officials at Jefferson Mall said they intend to ban a woman whose expletive-laced tirade toward a Hispanic woman went viral on social media late Tuesday night.

The video, shared publicly on Facebook around 6 p.m. Tuesday, shows a white woman berating a Hispanic woman, telling her to "go back to wherever the (expletive) you come from," and speak English. She also calls her a "nobody" and tells her that taxpayers probably paid for her items because she's on welfare.

"It don't bother me if I say it and I hope everybody hears me. I think everybody here probably feels the same (expletive) way I do," the woman said.

At a press conference Wednesday morning, activist Christopher 2X said that Mayor Greg Fischer and other officials should respond to the incident in the same way they did when the Louisville Islamic Center was vandalized with graffiti in September.

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http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2016/12/21/racist-tirade-jefferson-mall-goes-viral/95692094/


Video at link.
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Woman faces ban from Jefferson Mall after unruly outburst (Original Post) inanna Dec 2016 OP
Good alfredo Dec 2016 #1
I used to go to that mall all the time Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #2
I was an "east end snob" :) Roland99 Dec 2016 #14
That used to be my hang out spot Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #15
these type of heaven05 Dec 2016 #3
I'm a Hispanic and I can assure you that overt HeartachesNhangovers Dec 2016 #4
Agreed. I'M Cherokee and get asked, what am I? All the Time. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #6
I'm part Crow and get VERY brown in the sun... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #17
Same here, really brown in the summer. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #40
I'm blue eyed, blonde, & tan well. Dulcinea Dec 2016 #45
You hadda ask.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #46
'Fraid not! eom Dulcinea Dec 2016 #48
Zinger! zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #59
My best friend in the army was a Cherokee zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #58
Neither did racism heaven05 Dec 2016 #7
Yup, I can replace this woman's tirade with one I experienced. cyndensco Dec 2016 #9
Yes. Only the clerk told the woman to watch her language. inanna Dec 2016 #12
only thing that has changed heaven05 Dec 2016 #30
As the wise Will Smith told Jimmy Fallon TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #36
That's why I blame all those people standing around and looking at their feet Warpy Dec 2016 #41
Attack of the Deplorables. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #5
Ironically enough, it seems those who berate immigrants for speaking Spanish or Vietnamese LanternWaste Dec 2016 #8
I notice that as well. niyad Dec 2016 #19
My parents had Guyechka Dec 2016 #10
Good for him. 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #16
Me,too. narnian60 Dec 2016 #18
yayyyyy for your parents' friend. I would have applauded him. niyad Dec 2016 #20
She should be banned from society elmac Dec 2016 #11
Wow! This kind of thing is happening all over! pandr32 Dec 2016 #13
And where did their ancestors come from? MountCleaners Dec 2016 #24
It's no ones business if you are speaking a European language still never is that's different lunasun Dec 2016 #32
Apparently there is no respect for personal freedoms pandr32 Dec 2016 #44
that is what is so frightening KT2000 Dec 2016 #25
I wonder why she hasn't been identified yet. lamp_shade Dec 2016 #21
They can't find her or know who she is yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #28
Take still from video, yagotme Dec 2016 #43
Exactly. I thought thats just how they handle such things. dionysus Dec 2016 #49
Some places I've seen, yagotme Dec 2016 #50
I seen that with fake IDs at bars! Thats gotta be embarrassing! dionysus Dec 2016 #56
were this situation reversed he name, addy, dob and ss# would be broacast on the radio. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #54
Must be frustrating being a conservative these days greatbaldeagle Dec 2016 #22
Great points. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2016 #23
Great post!! KT2000 Dec 2016 #27
One nasty woman on Twitter says she'll pay women $500 mainer Dec 2016 #26
That's Andie Pauly MountCleaners Dec 2016 #47
judge not, lest ye be judged Skittles Dec 2016 #60
Politically correct? SpankMe Dec 2016 #29
What an ugly, nasty, stupid, rumpled, sloppy old wreck she is. Judi Lynn Dec 2016 #31
She could have complained about bringing the item but most of what i saw was racist rants lunasun Dec 2016 #33
Exactly. inanna Dec 2016 #34
She probably thought they were talking about her. alfredo Dec 2016 #38
mamy enid602 Dec 2016 #35
Good alfredo Dec 2016 #37
I would have BLASTED her Skittles Dec 2016 #39
I am glad the establishment is swift in their action to this AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #42
Even from the white sales?! KamaAina Dec 2016 #51
Especially from the white sales. raging moderate Dec 2016 #52
If you get passed the outrage and LOOK at her...she is saying what they say LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #53
An example of the typical Trump Voter JI7 Dec 2016 #55
Ah... Christmas spirit all over the place MissMillie Dec 2016 #57

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
14. I was an "east end snob" :)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:40 PM
Dec 2016

Lived most of my life in J-Town or around that area. Never liked going out to that mall all that much. Esp. after Mall St. Matthews was expanded.

I can understand that outburst happening there, though. But...ugh...what a fool.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
15. That used to be my hang out spot
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:43 PM
Dec 2016

before I discovered the Outer Loop and Mall Saint Matthews. I never went to J-Town that much but I did used to live right off Lyndon Lane

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. these type of
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:04 PM
Dec 2016

people who have so long been restrained in their hatred and racism by simple social norms are just getting started. Their new fuhrer has given them the green light. More violence is in the wings....I feel. I dare one, and have already as they have tried to eyef*** me in public and make me fear their new found testicular material. I will not hesitate....there is a state of war that has been declared in this new banana republic and I won't hesitate, since they aren't. Fuck em!!!!!!!!!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. I'm part Crow and get VERY brown in the sun...
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:49 PM
Dec 2016

I was told by some random white guy in Orange County California that I should avoid the sun so I won't get mistaken for a Mexican.

Just as the Nazis idealized the Aryan Race with it's blond hair and blue eyes but rallied around a dark haired leader today we have a bunch of pale face cave dwellers rallying behind a yam.

 

zippythepinhead

(374 posts)
58. My best friend in the army was a Cherokee
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 08:18 AM
Dec 2016

H e was from NC. He is one of the nicest peple I have ever met in my 74 year old life. He was an extremly moral person.
















 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. Neither did racism
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:11 PM
Dec 2016

against PoC(AA) of which I am one. My point is otherwise, if you missed it. Have a good one.

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
9. Yup, I can replace this woman's tirade with one I experienced.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:19 PM
Dec 2016

If she had used the n-word, I'd swear it was the same asshole - and that was in the 80's. Further, like the folk in this video, not one onlooker said a thing and I sensed some even enjoyed it.

Not much has changed for non-whites in the US.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
12. Yes. Only the clerk told the woman to watch her language.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

And it's barely audible on the video.

NOBODY intervened in the moment.

That is awful.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
30. only thing that has changed
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:42 PM
Dec 2016

is at least AA are overtly enslaved anymore. Massatrumpfuhrer and steve bannon are working on reversing massa lincolns freeing of the slave, I am really beginning to believe.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
41. That's why I blame all those people standing around and looking at their feet
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:30 PM
Dec 2016

She really did think they all agreed with her. Maybe some did, but she was making them all uncomfortable enough that you'd think they'd speak up and tell her to stop making such a jackass out of herself.

They do that around here.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. Ironically enough, it seems those who berate immigrants for speaking Spanish or Vietnamese
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:13 PM
Dec 2016

"It don't bother me if I say it..."

Ironically enough, it seems those who berate immigrants for speaking Spanish or Vietnamese or a host of other languages, struggle more with English than those speaking ELS.

 

Guyechka

(25 posts)
10. My parents had
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:26 PM
Dec 2016

a friend who was Iraqi. He was in a line speaking Arabic to one of his buddies when a woman told him to speak English. He said, "I speak English very well. Fuck you!" -- the last phrase being pronounced slowly and accurately.

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
13. Wow! This kind of thing is happening all over!
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:40 PM
Dec 2016

It seems they all say the same things, too: speak English, go back to ____, taking handouts, etc.

It is like a whole segment of society has been brainwashed.

The message of minorities being parasites on decent American society is spewed constantly through right-wing media, and right-wing politicians tap into it with not so subtle coded messages--until Trump. He didn't even bother to code it.

It is deliberate and effective. By scapegoating a large block of heavily Democrat supporting people so many wonderful things happen for the Billionaire Boys Club Party (Republicans):

They can easily succeed with their disenfranchisement efforts; they have scapegoats to blame for problems of their own doing; they get their faithful so hate-filled and riled up they can't focus on the real things that are going on; and they get to underfund anything they want if they can somehow make it seem that it is being used by the hated minorities (think food stamps, health care, education, social security, etc.). They also wind up with their base's support for private prisons and brutal police practices--not to mention an unfettered NRA and little chance of gun control ever passing.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
24. And where did their ancestors come from?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:13 PM
Dec 2016

Mine came from Italy. They learned English but always spoke Italian to each other. It's no one's business what language you speak with friends or famiy.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
32. It's no ones business if you are speaking a European language still never is that's different
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 04:14 PM
Dec 2016

Some of know what that is called

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
44. Apparently there is no respect for personal freedoms
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:54 PM
Dec 2016

...from these right-wing subjugated fools. They scream for their own rights but have no concept of the fact that others who are different than themselves have rights, too.

KT2000

(20,581 posts)
25. that is what is so frightening
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:14 PM
Dec 2016

they are loud with their ignorance and as is usual in social situation -= the crazy controls the group.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. They can't find her or know who she is
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:22 PM
Dec 2016

I doubt she will be out right banned. JC Penny can say she's not welcome but after a few weeks who's going to know. She could have her charge card revoked but outright ban? The other problem is employee turnover. It happens a lot and unless they start requiring driver's licenses how will they enforce this?

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
50. Some places I've seen,
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:43 PM
Dec 2016

hang copies of the checks that were bounced there. Name, address, the works.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
22. Must be frustrating being a conservative these days
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:01 PM
Dec 2016

It's as if they just pick whatever sounds good to justify their hatred for other people

So which is it?
a) Latinos are taking jobs from Americans
b) Latinos are taking jobs Americans don't won't to do
c) Latinos are lazy and fat from welfare
d) American companies are shipping jobs to Latin countries to get more work for less pay

It reminds me of how confused they are on how sacred life is (pro life, pro death penalty, pro gun, pro apocalypse)

1) Life is so sacred that no one should have an abortion under any circumstance
2) Life is so sacred that abortion doctors should be killed to show how sacred life is
3) Life is so sacred that once an unwanted baby is born, the mother shouldn't get any assistance to care for it
4) Life is so sacred that if a person kills another person, they should be killed to show that life is so sacred that it should never be taken
5) Life is so sacred that we should all buy guns (life takers) so that we can kill at the first sign of danger
6) Life is so sacred that we should mock those who would try to do something about climate change in an effort to preserve life
7) Life is so sacred that if someone says "Black Lives Matter", the response is "All Lives Matter" even though clearly they don't (see 2 thru 6)



KT2000

(20,581 posts)
27. Great post!!
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:17 PM
Dec 2016

I wish that could go far and wide because you captured the cognitive dissonance of the RW.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
26. One nasty woman on Twitter says she'll pay women $500
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:15 PM
Dec 2016

If they can prove they're legal and not on welfare. We should hold her to it.

@andieiamwhoiam: #JeffersonMallLouisville
I will pay $500 to Spanish speaking women in the video if they can prove they are here legally & not on welfare.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
47. That's Andie Pauly
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

A notorious far right stalker and abuser! She's notorious on both Twitter and FB. Racist and homophobic.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
29. Politically correct?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:37 PM
Dec 2016

The article describes it as an "alleged tirade with racial undertones". I know media outlets have to describe certain acts as "alleged" until they are on the record as true (owing to innocent until proven guilty principles as well as liability concerns - which I understand and agree with). But - THERE'S A VIDEO OF THE FUCKING THING!! I'm sure they'd be safe in calling it a tirade rather than an alleged tirade.

Is the news site being too politically correct? Hmmm.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
31. What an ugly, nasty, stupid, rumpled, sloppy old wreck she is.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 04:05 PM
Dec 2016

It makes one gag to see her turning her head to see if she can see any possible sympathizers in other lines around her to give her emotional support.

She is so bent she has to bear down on their tiny "transgression," which probably cost her no more than 30 seconds. Who on earth HASN'T been in line behind someone who brings one more item to someone who's checking out? Sane people understand it is NOT any big deal.

I hope someone identifies her image, which is available here:
http://www.wdrb.com/story/34102329/video-womans-outburst-from-jefferson-mall-goes-viral

It has already been removed from YouTube.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
34. Exactly.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 04:22 PM
Dec 2016

>> She is so bent she has to bear down on their tiny "transgression," which probably cost her no more than 30 seconds.<<

As if somehow "immigrants" are the only ones who've ever done this. They aren't - but that wasn't really her issue here.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
52. Especially from the white sales.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:28 AM
Dec 2016

This is a question of honor. Honor is really about how well you control your baser instincts. This woman is damaging the honor of the white race. Such as it is. What we have left. My European ancestors would be appalled. Almost all of them. We were taught that our honesty and our courtesy were crucial, that they were the reason we could walk as tall as kings and queens. Even if we wore rags.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
53. If you get passed the outrage and LOOK at her...she is saying what they say
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 06:42 PM
Dec 2016

I live in a red area of a blue state...this is what they *SAY*. This is how they *are*. They will continue until we shame them out of it. A bully will bully you until you fight back.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
55. An example of the typical Trump Voter
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 09:25 PM
Dec 2016

even if they are not always as open as she is they agree with her as it looks like many people did at this store.

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