Three professors of psychiatry call for 'neuropsychiatric evaluation' of Trump out of fears he's

[highplainsdem]

Source: Raw Story

Three professors of psychiatry call for ‘neuropsychiatric evaluation’ of Trump out of fears he’s mentally ill


In a letter addressed to President Barack Obama, three professors of psychiatry — including one from Harvard Medical School — expressed fears that President-elect Donald Trump’s exhibits signs he may not be mentally fit to assume the presidency.

In the letter, which can be found at The Huffington Post, Judith Herman, M.D. a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School — along with two professors who taught at the University of California, San Francisco — made the appeal to Obama based upon their “grave concern” after watching Trump’s antics.

“We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect,” the letter reads. “Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally.”

“His widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office,” it continues. “We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.”

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/three-professors-of-psychiatry-call-for-neuropsychiatric-evaluation-of-trump-out-of-fears-hes-mentally-ill/

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Article headline in boldface above since it wouldn't fit in the subject line, and neither would the full headline for the HuffPo article with the complete text of the letter:

Is Donald Trump Mentally Ill? 3 Professors of Psychiatry Ask President Obama to conduct “a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-greene/is-donald-trump-mentally_b_13693174.html

[MFM008]

1. Hes.....batshit crazy??????

He is.

[wordpix]

6. "to psychoanalyze the candidates...would be irresponsible" - No, what's irresponsible is swearing in

Comrade Orange as pres.

snip: The unique atmosphere of this year’s election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates, but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible.

[William Seger]

15. It would be irresponsible "at a distance" but ...

... the need to do an up-close and personal evaluation can be seen from any spot on the globe.

[dixiegrrrrl]

50. Let's just say...

he would fit right in at the Guano Pyschosis wing of any large hospital.

[azureblue]

65. Trump has a history of speed abuse

In its various forms, and he has the symptoms of taking it for too long. He's probably addicted to it by now (shades of Hitler) and it's the cause of his crazy behavior..

[olddad56]

2. at the very minimum, he has an extreme narcissistic personality disorder.

but maybe being Putin's useful idiot causes him to make decisions that only make sense to his owner.

[wordpix]

3. I have a buddy who worked with psych patients for 15 yrs. who says Orangeman

has so many psychiatric issues he's demonstrated that he's a dead ringer for a psych ward patient.

He needs to be examined but what can Pres. O do? :shrug?

[wordpix]

4. These psychiatrists should send this letter to the EC! NOW!

[Aimee in OKC]

28. Abso-frackin'-lutely!!! [eom]

[cstanleytech]

91. You think most of them dont know he isn't playing with a full deck? They know but most of them

will still happily vote for the idiot since he is a Republican regardless rather than do their job to keep someone as unfit as him from becoming President with all the power it entails including their finger on the launch button.

[wordpix]

92. some R's have some decency. My bro (R) voted for HRC

b/c he saw through Drumpf's lack of experience, ability and temperament to be pres.

[cstanleytech]

100. I said most not all, there are some decent ones but the sheer number of ones who arent is

frankly depressing.

[RKP5637]

46. Same here! I see many disturbing patterns of behavior. I don't see what Obama can do.

To my knowledge there is no precedent for this for an incoming president elect.

[milestogo]

5. It would be awesome if Obama responded to this.

But he won't.

[wordpix]

7. he should respond that he's forwarded the letter to the EC

[JudyM]

57. And thanks to the chronic partisan mealymouthed truth-blurring of MSM, the EC will shrug it off too.

[William Seger]

17. If would be awesome it Trump responded to it with an unhinged tweet storm (nt)

[LovingA2andMI]

43. Let's Hope He Does....

[madokie]

56. The right wing would hang him from the roof rafters of the white house

if he even tried. You know that, I know that, President Obama knows that.

Look at the shit the man had to endure due to the only fact that he was a black person.

If we want to do what is right would be left upon enough of us to not be able to push aside. Other than that we're stuck with orange anus

[milestogo]

58. So what?

He's on his way out. What are they gonna do? Refuse to cooperate with his proposals? Oh wait, they've already done that for 8 years. Are you suggesting they would lynch him? I'm pretty sure they'd go to jail for that.

If he stands up for what is right it will be remembered as a lincolnesque figure for the next few hundred years.

If he plays it safe, he'll be remembered forever as the president who could have steered the ship clear of the iceberg, but was too worried about what the passengers in first class would think if he shifted course at the last minute.

[SammyWinstonJack]

71. +1000000!

[smirkymonkey]

102. This!

[Ford_Prefect]

8. If he is, and he still won the election (no snickering please) what then? Pence is not yet sworn and

was elected to the VP slot. Does that give it to the GOP anyway? Can the party APPOINT a replacement candidate?

If he's not yet sworn and he can't take the job due to mental illness (surely an understatement) what do we do then? Declare a null score and start over? Extend Obama's time until Congress or the Supreme court reach a solution? Recall Jerry Ford from the dead to form an interim Government (Assuming McCain can't pass the test either)?

[Bradical79]

13. I think Congress would elect someone

if for some reason Trump were unable to be sworn in.

[wordpix]

18. I think HRC won the popular vote and should be the pres

Stop with Pence and all the other clowns, billionaires and fundies in that R crowd

[GreydeeThos]

29. +1

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

44. OK, but not gonna happen. The best we can hope for in the unlikely event the electors

do their patriotic duty and reject Trump is that we'll get Pence or Ryan or someone who, by comparison to Trump will look good, which in itself is dangerous.

[RKP5637]

47. I doubt the electors do anything but vote Trump in. Many want him in and others are

afraid.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

48. Despite that fact that he's the worst peice of crap ever allowed anywhere near the presidency,

I just don't see any quick or easy way to mitigate the damage that is going to be perpetrated by Republicans now, no matter what the electoral college does. We need fearless leaders to help us fight back and limit the damage as much as possible.

So far, I don't see the Dems doing much to provide that.

[RKP5637]

55. I see the Dems as exceptionally weak! n/t

[RKP5637]

98. I've been very disappointed in the democratic party. With all respect to them, the democratic

PTB don't seem to know how to handle Trumpism, and seem to be constantly playing by the old book/rules.

[wordpix]

93. yes, well they're electors just to prevent someone "unfit" from being pres

no other reason. So they should do their duty.

[awoke_in_2003]

53. But that is not how it works...

if tRump somehow (like losing electors and falling below 270) isn't elected by the EC, the winner does not become the person that won the popular vote. The House selects on representative from each state, and they decide who the next president will be (and it doesn't have to be any one who ran). So, what we think means about as much as winning the popular vote.

[KewlKat]

9. Any bets the Con tweets a response?

[coco22]

10. I have said for a long time he is mentally ill.

and most of his yes men and women.

[world wide wally]

11. There is no question that he is emotionally disturbed

[elmac]

12. He's got rich spoiled brat syndrome

and that includes being a sociopath, psychopathy and probably a number of other paths that lead to we are all FUBAR in 4 years.

[tanyev]

14. No, no, no. Trump will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.

His crazy doctor signed off on a letter that said so.

[wordpix]

19. Dr. Feelgood, you mean?

snort

[bucolic_frolic]

16. It's a great idea

By what authority does President Obama order this evaluation?

Back to the 25th Amendment. I'm unfamiliar with it.

I've mentioned the men in white suits several times over this year.

It's like something out of a Looney Toon.

[wordpix]

25. Cray Orange on his victory tour yesterday ranted 1/2 hr. about Election Night

Last edited Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:47 AM - Edit history (1)

Some pundit said, "Trump has this state," and then I get the next state...and the next...and all the anchors were so surprised... and so was I...etc" The guy lives in fantasy land. A presidency is not just about winning an election, but also even more about governing. Donald is re-living Nov. 8 over and over and over.

[3catwoman3]

59. Just like there is a hell of a lot more to marriage than the...

wedding day, there is a hell of a lot more to the presidency than election day.

He has no fucking idea about governing. None at all.

[Pachamama]

20. The "Dark Triad" is my guess - possibly the rare "Dark Tetrad" with a 4th trait like either Sadism

...or Borderline Personality Disorder being the 4th trait...

The first 3 traits being:

- Narcissism
- Machiavellianism
- Psychopathy

The dark triad is a subject in psychology that focuses on three personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy. Use of the term "dark" implies that people possessing these traits have malevolent qualities.





https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

[wordpix]

26. sadism is a possibility since Jane Doe alleged some things

along those lines

[Pachamama]

30. His need for revenge and shaming has a sadistic element too

That look in the photo of him at dinner with Romney...and his indications of willingness to use torture...should give us all chills...

[wordpix]

38. yes and he likes to punch down, like not paying when he doesn't like something

I thought he was such a great negotiator?

[emmadoggy]

64. I had to do some reading on

Machiavellianism and the Dark Triad.




Holy shit. Scary stuff - and it seems to be a distinct possibility!

[LongTomH]

83. The evolutionary "value" of Dark Triad traits:

From the Wikipedia article:

It has been argued that evolutionary behavior predicts not only the development of dark triad personalities, but also the flourishing of such personalities. Indeed, it has been found that individuals demonstrating dark triad personality can be highly successful in society. However, this success is typically short-lived. The main evolutionary argument behind the dark triad traits emphasizes mating strategies. This argument focuses on the notion of life history strategy. Life history strategy proposes that individuals differ in reproductive strategies; an emphasis on mating is termed a “fast life” strategy, while an emphasis on parenting is termed a “slow reproductive” strategy.There is some evidence that the dark triad traits are related to fast life history strategies, however, there have been some mixed results, and not all three dark triad traits have been related to this strategy.

[Emilybemily]

21. He has Alzheimer's

In addition to being a mentally ill asshole.

[wordpix]

27. I don't see it unless it's very early stage

That is when it's hard for outsiders to detect.

I took care of my mother for 7 yrs. when she had Alzheimer's. She was a classic case and I was with her through every stage as caregiver and case manager. I am as expert as anyone on AD behavior.

[wordpix]

31. he did look strange coming out of the elevator at the Tower

to greet reporters, which was unexpected. He wanted to tell them something (I can't remember what), and they did not know he was coming down. He looked ill at ease and disoriented as he arrived on the Ground Floor. Both are signs of early stage AD; then again, maybe he was trying to decide who to speak with, given this impromptu interview that no reporter was prepared for.

If Trump has keepers and of course he does, they probably asked him to stay in the Tower and not make an out-of-the- elevator appearance. The fact Trump did so could indicate the gradual loss of reasoning ability with AD. Or it could just be the imperialistic, dictatorial style of "I'll do what I want" Comrade Trump.

[dhol82]

35. I really think that Ivanka and the boys are his enablers.

Probably the real reason she and her husband are moving down to D.C.

[wordpix]

39. more than enablers, they're the power behind the throne

we can only hope they're better than rich crazy Daddy

[dhol82]

42. Not sure they are ready for prime time.

But!........Not to worry! Pence is there and ready to implement all the Dominionist shit that he can shovel into the mouths of the unwary.

[wordpix]

94. no, they have as much experience governing the nation as daddy

IOW, zero

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

49. They are smoother on the surface, but just as power mad and unethical.

You know Kushner's father is a convicted felon who is deeply involved in all of his son's business dealings?

[MrPurple]

54. Agreed and the nepotism is absurd, as if there aren't other people with more experience.

[Mc Mike]

70. More likely untreated syphilis,

from his own personal 'Vietnam' days.

[Coyotl]

79. Agreed. Rather obvious if you have experience in memory care provision.

But trying to convince a bunch of know nothings is another matter.

[Little Star]

22. Could someone tell us someting we don't already know....

There's something messed up in his head. I may not know exactly what is wrong but I can clearly see that something is. Yeah, W wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree but at least a few of lights worked.

[drlindaphd]

23. I agree

I have a Ph.D in Health Psychology and a Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology. I have been a Licensed Psychologist since 1993. I have been in practice since 1985. While I am unable to diagnose the President-Elect, I absolutely agree that he needs to be administered neuropsychological testing before he is inaugurated as President of the United States.

The behavior he has exhibited, both before and after the election are worrisome and in my professional opinion make me question if he has the mental stability, to handle the high office of President. I believe the country needs empirical evidence of his mental fitness for the job.

Dr. Erlich

[dhol82]

37. Not to worry!

Pence, et al, have it all under control.

[wordpix]

40. thank you, doc, he needs testing and the EC should demand it!

That is our only hope unless he's impeached before he's sworn in.

[Cracklin Charlie]

101. Sorry so slow to respond, dr...

But, may I ask a question?

Without being too specific, is there a difference/distinction between psychological testing, and neuro-psychological testing?

[Jacob Boehme]

24. Donald, please.. stop!

You’re giving loose cannons, ricochet bullets and run-away torpedoes a bad name.

[Vinca]

32. This is like a great movie plot come to life . . . unfortunately.

If deemed to be bona fide batshit crazy, how is he stopped from taking the oath of office? Obama should warn world leaders that we might have a situation here and not to take Trump too seriously.

[wordpix]

34. I trust Pres. O has conveyed his sense of dismay

to his/our friends around the world. To say the least. Hopefully they will help contain the comrade from doing major damage. Then again, his entire cabinet appears to be pro-Putin and that means anti-China.

[Ilsa]

33. Someone needs to ask questions in the early evening

or night time. See if he's sundowning, for one. If he gives a confused response, it might provide cause for a full psych workup.

[wordpix]

36. he may not be if it's very early stage

That's possible.

[Ilsa]

85. You are absolutely right. nt

[3catwoman3]

60. Would his middle of the night...

...Twitter rants qualify as sundowning?

[Ilsa]

84. Probably not until they become more confusing, maybe

with non sequiturs, over-the-top irrational reactions, etc.

[KittyWampus]

74. Can someone explain 'sundowning'? I could google it, but it might enrich this thread

If a DU'er explains it in layman terms.

[Ilsa]

82. Late in the day, people with Alzheimers

might (or not) experience confusion or anxiety or even agitation. Some experience sleep difficulties, including maintaining a sleep schedule.

Some have problems understanding what is real and what is a dream at night. Some have trouble distinguishing between night and day. Some become more anxious and fearful as daylight wanes.

I wondered if trumputin has trouble with real vs fantasy and confusion.

[bdamomma]

88. well he must have trouble

sleeping if he tweets at 3 a.m.

[Ilsa]

89. There is a slim chance that he is one of those

People who only require 4 hours of sleep per night, but I have my doubts. I would bet that he is juiced up on caffeine or something that prevents his mind from resting properly. The garbage he tweets is from the buildup of junk in his brain from lack of good sleep.

I almost feel sorry for Melania. It must be lonely being married to him, not having a loving warm body next to her (and I'm not talking about sex) for the whole night. No wonder her behavior regarding her son suggests something emotionally abnormal.

[wordpix]

95. he might have trouble sleeping if he just ate a double cheeseburger with a shake

Eating heavy food and sugar before bed is guaranteed to keep you up.

[gregcrawford]

41. It staggers the imagination...

... and strains credulity that there isn't already a stringent and mandatory psychiatric examination required to even run for the most powerful office on the planet. The South End of a Northbound Yak should never have been allowed to enter the race, and now he is free to put this nation and the entire world at risk with his petulant, pathologically self-centered, and seriously unbalanced way of focusing on real or imagined slights with Twitter rants, rather than concentrating on real issues that require an adult mindset so demonstrably beyond his reach or comprehension.

We are all well and truly fucked.

[NRaleighLiberal]

45. Fears? The man's a total looney!

[MrPurple]

51. Shouldn't these people have come forward BEFORE the election?

[certainot]

52. he's suffering a bad case of a disease called 'groganzola'

that's where sex energy gets stuck in the wrong side of the brain, the side for mathematics and logic.

where the numbers are done satisfaction-demandinf sex energy wants more, bigger, faster. that where a lot of greed comes from.

and where logic is done it wants conclusion, finality, certainty. since nature is complicated and unpredictable that sex energy causes stress and fear until the person denies reality and creates or accepts some quick easy answers to provide that fix of certainty. judging the world in absolutes helps.

to rationalize the quick easy answers requires creativity and when the gate to the creative side opens some of the sex energy escapes to the pleasure centers in the right side. and that's the pleasure of ignorance and lies. there's a reward for being stupid.

how does that sex energy get diverted to the wrong side of the brain? well, that's what happens when you learn sex with the hand connected to the side of the brain for math and logic, the right hand.

[Judi Lynn]

61. Maybe Trump's doctor Bornstein will address his psychological state with another letter:

[center]

[bdamomma]

87. did the don

have a gun to this so called whack job Dr. when he wrote his 5 minute letter????

This is totally unacceptable like he's got a sick excuse from a school nurse. WTF

[MrPurple]

90. bug

haha - the lower left corner of that letter had me convinced for a minute that there was some kind of bug inside my laptop screen.

[wordpix]

96. "cardiovascular status is excellent." Really? He's close to 100 lb. overweight

And addicted to fast food. It won't be long before he's got a problem, or else this is BS from the usual BS Drumpf crowd

[JudyM]

62. Is there even any definition of the standard "unfit" for the office of president?

[wordpix]

97. here's why USA Today thinks Drumpf is unfit, whereas the founding fathers

thought tyrants and those under control of foreign powers are unfit. Trump fits all "unfit" statements and definitions.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/09/29/dont-vote-for-donald-trump-editorial-board-editorials-debates/91295020/

First time in 30 yrs. USA Today took a position on pres. candidates.

[JudyM]

99. Wishing this had been reprinted last week with other papers around the country echoing it on the w/e

so as to make some possible inroads with the electors. Just crickets from the media.

[keepapart]

63. JFU For Sure!

Cheat Jesus is simply JFU as in Just Fucked Up.

[Cha]

66. Does sociopathic, pathological, narcissistic Liar count?

[Fast Walker 52]

67. Is there ANY FRIGGING DOUBT???!!?!?!

Jaysus-- someone stop him!

[ailsagirl]

78. +100,000

[WhoWoodaKnew]

68. He's not insane. He's the best con man ever.

[tomp]

69. a full evaluation would include a drug test. nt

[CountAllVotes]

72. +1

If they can demand that they drug test the likes of ME (a person with a progressive disease) everytime I go to the doctor just because, they can drug test the likes of tRump damnit!

I demand it! Pisses me off -- and make HIM piss too!!!!

[malthaussen]

73. Take away his Twitter, he can fake sanity for the requisite 72 hours.

Psychopaths are very good at that sort of thing.

-- Mal

[Botany]

75. Remember Trump did have to go to a rich kid's reform school ....

.... during high school after he assualted a teacher and tried to throw somebody
out a window.

I might be wrong but if that rat bastard can lie about everything I don't see were
we have to stick to the facts.

BTW it was a coup and Trump cheated.

[CountAllVotes]

76. +1,000 !!

He's a rat fucker of the worst type.

We must demand a full and complete physical AND a psychiatric evaluation!!!

[ailsagirl]

77. Maybe they could perform a lobotomy

[Stainless]

80. Civil War

From my perspective, his mental illness is obvious. Taking in to account the insane devotion of his enablers, I truly believe that another US civil war is inevitable!

[keepapart]

103. Give the confederates time to wake up!

As soon as Mom & Dad lose their health insurance and have their SS checks reduced to nothing maybe we can avoid class warfare. As soon as creationism is a mandatory part of their school curriculum and the minimum wage is frozen in place or eliminated THEN you have civil war and I doubt it will be civil.

[nolabear]

81. I know Judith Herman's work. She's well respected. This is a brave move.

And it's smart. As tempting as it is to diagnose en absentia it's not wise. It can be pooh-poohed and dismissed, and the person doing it subject to castigation. But saying you see something that makes you believe a real diagnosis is warranted seems both Brave and prudent. I wish it would help.

[bdamomma]

86. we need more mental health

professionals to come out and say how dangerous this man/child is. We have posters who work in the mental health profession and said that this man/child has deep mental health issues. This should worry all of us. This is no joke.