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Justice

(7,188 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:28 PM Dec 2016

FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election

Source: Washington Post

BI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper have backed a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials.

...."A separate House intelligence briefing by a senior FBI counter-intelligence official last week left some Republican and Democratic lawmakers with the impression that the bureau wasn’t on the same page as the CIA, according to officials present.

The truth is they were never all that different in the first place,” an official said of the FBI and CIA positions.


In his message to the CIA’s workforce, Brennan said the administration has provided detailed briefings to lawmakers and their aides since the summer.

“In recent days, I have had several conversations with members of Congress, providing an update on the status of the review as well as the considerations that need to be taken into account as we proceed,” Brennan wrote. “Many – but unfortunately not all – members understand and appreciate the importance and the gravity of the issue, and they are very supportive of the process that is underway.”....



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FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election (Original Post) Justice Dec 2016 OP
Arrest the traitor!! Do it now. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #1
It's too late. The cancer has metastasized. nt Blue Shoes Dec 2016 #2
They can arrest Putin? n/t hughee99 Dec 2016 #30
Putin is not a citizen of the US. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #32
That's why I was confused. hughee99 Dec 2016 #33
Go away. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #34
in the spirit of the season, I apologize for pointing hughee99 Dec 2016 #36
I assumed DUers had enough intelligence Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #37
I assumed DUers had enough intelligence to hughee99 Dec 2016 #38
Good for you. Will continue to fight. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #39
You know how sometimes some passionate hughee99 Dec 2016 #41
So what do YOU think happened? complain jane Dec 2016 #44
I think regardless of what the Russians may have done, hughee99 Dec 2016 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author psychopomp Dec 2016 #46
A bit late to WARN American voters, 'you've been scammed & spammed with lies by Republicans' Sunlei Dec 2016 #3
given this - how can the election outcome be considered legitimate? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #4
My question exactly! ananda Dec 2016 #5
Given this, the election outcome can never be considered legitimate. Justice Dec 2016 #8
this is how I felt during Bush's 8 years...but on steroids. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #10
I'm far more troubled and worried by Trump than I was of Bush... xor Dec 2016 #13
Exactly. Not even close. And Trump isn't even president yet (fingers crossed SOMETHING happens NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #14
miracle would be if EC gets the hacking info and delays the vote wordpix Dec 2016 #17
The recounts are dead in the water. briv1016 Dec 2016 #25
Bush was a goofy puppet beholden to the GOP leadership LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #22
Did they hack the election results? killbotfactory Dec 2016 #50
Just heard that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #6
Even the republican FBI agrees with the CIA. keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #7
Now the butt covering starts Captain1way Dec 2016 #9
Well I'm glad Comey intervened in the election about Hillary's emails then Maven Dec 2016 #11
No SHIT! world wide wally Dec 2016 #16
she had her own server! What a breach of security that is compared to Pooty wordpix Dec 2016 #18
Trump is another fraud, just like Dubya. Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #12
That's nice. What do you intend to do about it, Mr President? malthaussen Dec 2016 #15
I can't type what I'm thinking right now! yardwork Dec 2016 #19
President Obama is speaking right now MontanaMama Dec 2016 #20
The FBI was a willing participant in helping trump win the election also. Don't give all the credit still_one Dec 2016 #21
Comey: I don't know nothing about influencing elections... Raster Dec 2016 #23
What now? So we know they & Comey influence the election ffr Dec 2016 #24
Covering Comey's ass apcalc Dec 2016 #26
Well ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #27
This is beginning to feel scripted. jalan48 Dec 2016 #28
Exactly. Justice Dec 2016 #29
Media is in the same boat triron Dec 2016 #43
Agreed. complain jane Dec 2016 #45
So now Russia gets to decide triron Dec 2016 #31
The entire agency is beyond corrupt... Blue Idaho Dec 2016 #35
Lock Trump up! Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #40
wouldn't it be nice if the USeans hands were clean . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #42
This! rgbecker Dec 2016 #47
Ariel Dorfman had an Op-ed in today's FairWinds Dec 2016 #48

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. That's why I was confused.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:20 PM
Dec 2016

I have yet to see a story that says the CIA or FBI has proof that Trump was involved in the hacking, but since you're suggesting "arrest him now" I figured you must be talking about someone else.

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
37. I assumed DUers had enough intelligence
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:25 PM
Dec 2016

to compare the Tumpies at his rallies and their calling for Hillary to be sent to prison. Guess I missed one.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
38. I assumed DUers had enough intelligence to
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:36 PM
Dec 2016

Not act like trump supporters and not call for someone to be locked up for something there's no available proof they actually did. Guess I missed one too.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
41. You know how sometimes some passionate
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 11:47 PM
Dec 2016

Republican supporter thinks they're "fighting the good fight" but they put forward some argument that doesn't make any sense or makes him look like a hypocrite, then some DUer posts it, we all laugh, and paint all republican supporters in the same light?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
49. I think regardless of what the Russians may have done,
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 01:37 PM
Dec 2016

If you can't prove Trump was personally involved, there's nothing to arrest him for... And I have yet to see one of these reports from official or even anonymous sources in the CIA or FBI suggest that they have such information.

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Justice

(7,188 posts)
8. Given this, the election outcome can never be considered legitimate.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:39 PM
Dec 2016

No matter what happens from this moment on.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
10. this is how I felt during Bush's 8 years...but on steroids.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:43 PM
Dec 2016

Bush was never my president. I don't consider Trump to be anything but malevolent. He represents everything that I find loathsome.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
14. Exactly. Not even close. And Trump isn't even president yet (fingers crossed SOMETHING happens
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:50 PM
Dec 2016

- some miracle - to prevent that from happening)

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
17. miracle would be if EC gets the hacking info and delays the vote
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:10 PM
Dec 2016

And what's happening with the recount?
:shurg:

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
25. The recounts are dead in the water.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:00 PM
Dec 2016

Our last two chances are a flip in the EC that likely cause a civil war, or to start one ourselves.

"May you live in interesting times."

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
22. Bush was a goofy puppet beholden to the GOP leadership
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:43 PM
Dec 2016

Trump is a Putin puppet beholden to no one but his own ego.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
50. Did they hack the election results?
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 02:00 PM
Dec 2016

Or just hack emails and expose us to information that should have remained private?

If it's the former, yes the election results are not legitimate.

If it's the latter, then there's nothing we can do about it. Leaks happen in all campaigns. Like the Romney 47% incident. It's troubling that they came about from a foreign power, but I don't see how it would make the election results illegitimate. They weren't using top secret spycraft malware, like stuxnet. It was a run of the mill phishing email attack from hackers associated with the Russian government. It's such a low tech hack that it could have been any domestic hacker group.

Maven

(10,533 posts)
11. Well I'm glad Comey intervened in the election about Hillary's emails then
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:44 PM
Dec 2016

obviously that was a much more critical matter of national security than Russian interference in our election.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
18. she had her own server! What a breach of security that is compared to Pooty
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:12 PM
Dec 2016

hacking our election so Trump would be elected.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
15. That's nice. What do you intend to do about it, Mr President?
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:06 PM
Dec 2016

More to the point, what do you have the leverage to do about it, Mr President?

Frankly, I am less concerned with the need to crack Russia's knuckles for being naughty boys than with the domestic consequences of an invalid election.

-- Mal

still_one

(92,219 posts)
21. The FBI was a willing participant in helping trump win the election also. Don't give all the credit
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:33 PM
Dec 2016

to Russia

Raster

(20,998 posts)
23. Comey: I don't know nothing about influencing elections...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:43 PM
Dec 2016

...it was the Russians...yeah, that's the ticket, the Russians!

ffr

(22,670 posts)
24. What now? So we know they & Comey influence the election
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:00 PM
Dec 2016

What is anybody going to do about the affect it had on the idiot undecideds who got played for fools, buying what the Russians and Comey were spoon feeding, without any skepticism?



WHAT THE FUCK, COMEY! You claimed earlier it wasn't important enough to bring up. Coward!

MAKE THIS WRONG, RIGHT!

ZoomBubba

(289 posts)
27. Well ...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:10 PM
Dec 2016

... this is big. Behind the scenes, there must have been a deal reached with the GOP and Democrats where both are going to feel they don't have any choice but to move on this.

We might see a deal where he is going to be replaced with Pence. Not the best outcome, but probably politically the one that will not result in an outright insurrection. Pence is at least predictable domestically and status quo as far as foreign policy.

jalan48

(13,870 posts)
28. This is beginning to feel scripted.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:13 PM
Dec 2016

It happened, it was bad, and now at the last minute we are all in agreement. Oh, and it's a real bummer that it's too late to do anything about it.

triron

(22,007 posts)
31. So now Russia gets to decide
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 08:17 PM
Dec 2016

who will be POTUS. Sad.
News media just rolls over. So does Obama and Congress.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
35. The entire agency is beyond corrupt...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:53 PM
Dec 2016

Ready willing and able to back Putin's puppet - Comrade Trump. The Agency should be disbanded and its leader jailed. This latest move is simply a CYA operation.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
42. wouldn't it be nice if the USeans hands were clean . .
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 12:06 AM
Dec 2016

about messing around with other counties' elections?

How does it feel to be on the receiving end for a change?

This is what nauseating Merrikan Exceptionalism looks like.

Veterans For Peace

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
48. Ariel Dorfman had an Op-ed in today's
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 12:21 PM
Dec 2016

New York Times on this very subject - No freebie link up yet.

He and I must be channeling each other.

Hey wait, . . Here it is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/opinion/now-america-you-know-how-chileans-felt.html?_r=0

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