Hillary Clinton Ties Loss to Russian Hacking and Comey Letter

[DonViejo]

Source: New York Times

By AMY CHOZICK DEC. 16, 2016

Hillary Clinton on Thursday night attributed her defeat to a convergence of two “unprecedented” events: the release of a letter by James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, shortly before the election, and what she called an “attack against our country” by the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin.

Mrs. Clinton has kept a low profile in the weeks since her defeat, mostly appearing on social media in photographs by passers-by who have spotted her walking her dogs near her home in Chappaqua, N.Y.

A few days after the election, she did talk about the impact of Mr. Comey’s letter in a conference call with supporters. But speaking in Manhattan on Thursday to a group of her campaign donors, many of whom are still despondent over her defeat, she was particularly pointed about the role of Russia.

Mrs. Clinton said the letter Mr. Comey released disclosing new questions about emails handled by her private server had cost her close races in several battleground states. “Swing-state voters made their decisions in the final days breaking against me because of the F.B.I. letter from Director Comey,” she said.

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[Zambero]

1. 2016 and the KGB and FBI are an inseparable team

They knew precisely what they doing and pulled it off to get the result they wanted.

[Devil Child]

8. There is no KGB

The KGB dissolved in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet Union. The current "KGB" is called the Federal Security Service or FSB.

[greymattermom]

9. FSB FBI

only one letter different

[elmac]

11. its just the KGB with a different name

they still destroy peoples lives, imprison dissidents and are still the enemy of Democracy..

[Zambero]

34. Former KGB chief Putin might disagree

"In spirit". The facade has been refreshed, but the goals, tactics, and a whole bunch of players remain the same.

[Devil Child]

35. The mission is the same I agree.

But the organization has changed. FSB is factually correct, best to know who the enemy is and not confuse casual readers.

[Hekate]

2. Now, all those people who have been hollering that she should shout this from the rooftops: watch...

Watch what Trump and the GOP say, watch what the left-of-Dems say, watch what the "news" media repeats ad nauseum.

"Sore Loser" in 3....2....1....

[LisaM]

25. She's been pointing things out for years. And is ignored.

Remember how she glommed on to the vast right-wing conspiracy early on? And was laughed at?

[Hekate]

26. Mockery is a very sharp weapon

[LisaM]

29. Yes, but the object needs to know he's been mocked.

I used to have a reputation for being very dry and sarcastic. That played well in Michigan. When I moved to Seattle, I was perceived as being mean and cold (pretty much the farthest thing from the truth there is). Donald Trump is stupid and thin skinned, and can't tell mockery from an ice cream sandwich. As a nation, we're losing our ability to be witty.

[Richard D]

3. I won't say sore loser

But, I will say that it's probably too little too late.
This should have been fought from day one.
I'm still hoping for a miracle.
I still think about DU being hacked on election night, and down for days.

[The Hitman]

10. Do we know who the DU hackers were?

Could be Russians? Could be non-Russians?

[Sunlei]

16. could be any one of the few IPs logged on the website at that time. do you know?

[Blue Shoes]

27. Realistically anyone attempting to fuck with the site had an obfuscated IP

Either by TOR or VPN. Just finding the IP would be pretty worthless.

[Sunlei]

33. If MB owner asked, I'd chipin my part to help hire a good security company to catch that criminal.

[cstanleytech]

12. About our only hope is that the electoral college does its job to keep people unfit like Trump

to be President out of office and pick Hillary instead since she did win the popular vote by 2 to 3 million more votes than Trump but the odds of them actually doing their job is slimmer than winning the powerball lottery.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Those certainly added to the reasons.

It's water over the dam now.

[billymike]

5. might this

be foundational to Obama's press conference today?

[HAB911]

6. FBI IS DIRTY............nt

[Sunlei]

7. any Republicans who knew about this need to be locked up for a long fucking time.

[cstanleytech]

13. Agreed. In fact I vote for a need national monument called The Wall of Shame with the names of

the guilty etched in it including the majority of Republican Senators and Congressmen.

[Sunlei]

15. why Ghoulman ran for the hills when a position needing a national security clearance was offered.

trump doesn't even get a basic background check like all immigrants are required to have.

[Ellipsis]

14. Setting up Obama's presser one would think.

[nini]

22. LOL

go away

[NBachers]

31. Nice "stream-of-consciousness" trolling.

[McKim]

18. By a Thousand Cuts

Yes, this was defeat by a thousand cuts. For sure hacking, voter suppression, news media making a god out of Trump and hanging on his every word, and the decades long attacks on Hillary.
But her campaign also needs to look in the mirror as there is some responsibility to own up to.

At the risk of being disparaged here I offer that her image on TV was not bringing average folks to her side. The brightly colored silk suits and expensive jewelry may have been seen by struggling working families as a little bit over the top. I am aware that a male candidate may not be criticized
For his dress. But I remember John Kerry wearing a bright pumpkin colored barn jacket from LLBean, a yankee symbol, to talk to folks in Colorado. A jeans jacket would have been more down home there. He looked like a fish out of water. This is an era of image and image matters.

[Arazi]

19. Wait, DU's experts say it's Bernie's fault!

[ananda]

20. I will never understand why ..

.. this election is considered legitimate in any fashion.

It should be declared invalid and redone.

[Fast Walker 52]

23. yeah, it was crooked as hell, probably most crooked of my 32 years of voting

[triron]

28. Yep

[AlexSFCA]

21. ok

IMO, it's ok to blame Comey and Russia but only if other factors are also mentioned such as choosing not to campaign in Wisconsin and ignoring to connect with so many voters in rust belt (Sanders was able to connect just fine).

Comey and Russia may be are outside of our control for now. Let's think beyond the 2016 election on what is in our control - building coalitions with rust belt voters, seeking common ground. Tim Ryan is a good start. Whether we like it or not, we're gonna have to compromise.

[Skittles]

38. that would not have helped

the fix was in

[triron]

39. Yes

Many are pushing the false narratives, truth is the Russians, the media the fbi, along with voter disenfranchisement orchestrated by Republicans insured Trumps election.

[Hortensis]

40. Exactly. Data and timelines prove it, and anyone

trying to push a false narrative that Hillary lost because she ran an incompetent campaign probably is not on this forum for the reasons most are.

[Fast Walker 52]

24. I do wish she'd mention voting suppression too, it's pretty clear that had a huge effect

[Lokilooney]

30. It could be this...

Or ignoring states like WI considering it a lock while Trump campaigned hard and visited multiple times despite that state not going R since 84. Nah, it was probably the emails and some other skulduggery, winning a state by actually campaigning in it just coocoo.

[Kittycow]

32. It makes my broken heart feel a molecule better that

she's so formidable that it took Russia to take her down.

But it will never be OK and I will never recognize that corrupt POS as my president for all the well-known reasons. Election Night was as bad for me as when I found out that my only child died in an accident. And I've read of many people who have felt the same way. ..worse than a close family member or friend passing away

[triron]

36. knr

[Skittles]

37. she needs to add misogyny

the bar was held the highest EVER, for a woman