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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:07 PM Nov 2016

Trump's Treasury Pick: There Will Be No Absolute Tax Cut For The Upper Class

Source: Talking Points Memo

By MATT SHUHAM Published NOVEMBER 30, 2016, 10:35 AM EDT

Steve Mnuchin, President-elect Donald Trump’s newly-minted pick for treasury secretary, said Wednesday that any upper-income tax cuts enacted by Trump would be offset by eliminating tax deductions.

“Any reductions we have in upper income taxes would be offset by less deductions so there would be no absolute tax cut for the upper class,” Mnuchin said in an interview on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

Mnuchin argued it was “not the case at all” that most of Trump’s proposed tax cuts would benefit the upper class.

“There will be a big tax cut for the middle class, but any tax cuts we have for the upper class would be offset by less deductions that pay for it," he said.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/steve-mnuchin-trump-tax-policy

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Trump's Treasury Pick: There Will Be No Absolute Tax Cut For The Upper Class (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2016 OP
reagan, reagan, reagan and more reagan, reagan.......................... Tikki Nov 2016 #1
trickle down never worked and never will Angry Dragon Nov 2016 #18
Bogus. There aren't enough deductions used by the rich to offset Eric J in MN Nov 2016 #2
Isn't that the truth. watoos Nov 2016 #6
Bingo! ALBliberal Nov 2016 #8
Unless they're as rich as tRump, apparently. nt. marybourg Nov 2016 #12
I don't believe him. hollowdweller Nov 2016 #3
guess what? barbtries Nov 2016 #4
So, what would be the point, fuckers? louis-t Nov 2016 #5
Exactly!! Wouldn't trust him to submit my monthly expense report! Roland99 Nov 2016 #11
So here's an idea on the taxes front 24601 Nov 2016 #7
Same old smoke and mirrors. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #9
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2016 #10
Lets ask this newly suggested right wing supporter of a serial predator turbinetree Nov 2016 #13
Lying liars appoint other lying liars. lark Nov 2016 #14
he is a fucking liar Skittles Nov 2016 #15
I hear something trickling...sniffsniff Solly Mack Nov 2016 #16
more KY Jelly,,,,,Please Cryptoad Nov 2016 #17
Since when does the Secretary of the Treasury Egnever Nov 2016 #19
that's what I was thinking.... dhill926 Nov 2016 #22
here we go again. trickle down bullshit. nt Javaman Nov 2016 #20
Watching a Train Wreck Would be More Enjoyable than This! eringer Nov 2016 #21

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
2. Bogus. There aren't enough deductions used by the rich to offset
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:13 PM
Nov 2016

...the tax cuts Trump will give them.

If the goal were to have the rich pay exactly the same as they do now, then they would accomplish that by NOT making changes.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. Isn't that the truth.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:19 PM
Nov 2016

I used to call this "projecting" but I've stopped doing that, projection is too nice of a description, it's flat out bullshit lying.

ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
8. Bingo!
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:24 PM
Nov 2016

The rich don't really benefit from tax deductions. First of all they will have no mortgage interest deduction. Secondly they typically end up in AMT (alt minimum tax) where deductions like state income tax are added back and are irrelevant to them due to their large incomes.

Losing deductions will only hurt the middle class.

Smoke and mirrors and Trumps base will fall for it.

As a CPA this will drive me bananas (

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
3. I don't believe him.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:15 PM
Nov 2016

Heard that one before.

The GOP always wants the overall amount of revenue to GO DOWN.

Plus usually the loopholes are returned later on.

Oh and if there is a fiscal crisis then they will float a sales tax or something that hurts working people because they feel like we don't save enough which further drops demand and then they complain about low interest rates due to deflation.

24601

(3,962 posts)
7. So here's an idea on the taxes front
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:20 PM
Nov 2016

Make the 1st $50,000 in dividends tax free and tax anything above that as ordinary income.

Tax capital gains as ordinary income if the investment is not at risk. (Most will be at risk for loss up the cost basis of the investment)

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. Same old smoke and mirrors.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:25 PM
Nov 2016

Repeal "Obamacare" first...replace, well...

Tax cuts first...tax reform, well...

Cut corporate taxes first...jobs, well...

Tomato, lettuce and strawberry season first..."Really big wall paid for by Mexico!", well...

New one-on-one international agreements first...divest personal business interests, well...

On and on...

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
13. Lets ask this newly suggested right wing supporter of a serial predator
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 03:54 PM
Nov 2016

that wants to have him assigned to the U.S. treasury , what does he think of putting over 29,000 human beings on the streets when he bought IndyMac for pennies on the dollar and then booted families into homelessness, how does that match with tax cuts?

Someone is going to have to pay for those big old ships that this twit wants to build, and all of those F-35 and KC-46's coming down the assembly line, and there is only so much social security , medicare, medicaid that can be robbed from "tax cuts"

F*** this s**t


lark

(23,106 posts)
14. Lying liars appoint other lying liars.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:04 PM
Nov 2016

That's just the way it is. Good people wouldn't work with the fraudulent, criminal, cheating, hater and assaulter.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
19. Since when does the Secretary of the Treasury
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 04:42 PM
Nov 2016

Dictate tax policy?

That is the job of Congress as far as I know. The President and the Treasury has fuck all to do with it other than the president signing the legislation when it gets to his desk.

They can certainly lobby Congress for the legislation they want but they can not dictate it.

dhill926

(16,346 posts)
22. that's what I was thinking....
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 09:30 PM
Nov 2016

these guys are not ready for primetime....or local access cable for that matter....

eringer

(460 posts)
21. Watching a Train Wreck Would be More Enjoyable than This!
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 05:29 PM
Nov 2016

"Little" Stevie Mnuchin knows that the only way to give (e.g., "offset') ANOTHER BIG TAX BREAK to the rich is by going after the middle class's home interest and real estate tax deductions. Trump's objective is to turn this country away from home ownership and toward a country of renters (where he and his buds own all the real estate). I should call Ernie Ford's estate and see if I can buy the master to his "Sixteen Tons" as this will be the song of this generation and the generations to come.
Let them be satisfied with their cell phones and read all of Trump's Twitters. They are screwed!!! The tax code was written to help the middle class. That will all get undone quickly. I can't believe that the American people were that stupid. They need to wise up quickly and turn the House and Senate over or they are going to be wearing hand me downs in their graves.

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