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brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 04:58 PM Nov 2016

Mitt Romney Leads Donald Trumps Picks for Secretary of State

Source: The Wall Street Journal

President-elect Donald Trump is leaning toward asking former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney to be his secretary of state, according to people familiar with the deliberations.

The next U.S. president is also likely to name retired Marine Gen. James Mattis to serve as secretary of defense in his administration, and South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is the leading candidate to be the next ambassador to the United Nations, the people said.

Delaying Mr. Trump’s decision about secretary of state is an internal tug of war between supporters of Mr. Romney, and those urging the selection of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. A third group is pressing the president-elect to keep searching for candidates.

The New York businessman views Mr. Romney as the prototypical choice to be the nation’s top diplomat, and a group of advisers inside the transition are pushing him to select the 2012 Republican presidential nominee. Two people said Mr. Trump is inclined to select Mr. Romney.


Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/mitt-romney-leads-donald-trumps-picks-for-secretary-of-state-1479846765

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Mitt Romney Leads Donald Trumps Picks for Secretary of State (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2016 OP
He's an OK choice metroins Nov 2016 #1
Frankly, I would welcome Romney as SOS, considering some of the choices Trump has made Arkansas Granny Nov 2016 #2
What a hypocrite. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2016 #3
At this point, given the other names I've seen, he's the best they've offered. DefenseLawyer Nov 2016 #4
He certainly showed himself capable during the 2012 campaign... hopeforchange2008 Nov 2016 #5
Ah, those were the days. Skinner Nov 2016 #19
How quaint of us to think he was bad BainsBane Nov 2016 #35
Romney won't last a year as SOS Yavin4 Nov 2016 #6
So he still has dreams of riding in on a white horse and saving America, huh? Maeve Nov 2016 #7
Romney is Pence's choice. haele Nov 2016 #8
Sessions was onboard the Trump Train way before Pence was. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #10
Does Rudes get DHS as a consolation prize? geek tragedy Nov 2016 #9
I'd rather Rudy Turin_C3PO Nov 2016 #15
That will blow things up quicker. A good thing, perhaps. Ligyron Nov 2016 #17
Definitely he'd be amongst the worst for AG. DHS he'd also be scary. nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #22
I can live with this, I hope. Ilsa Nov 2016 #11
It's the bargaining phase of grief BainsBane Nov 2016 #34
seems like a good fit for Romney elmac Nov 2016 #12
Like others in this thread, Romney is not a crazy person so I think he would be fine OKNancy Nov 2016 #13
And he knows French! n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2016 #38
Fine. Turin_C3PO Nov 2016 #14
It Will Be Interesting peggysue2 Nov 2016 #16
I would not be surprised if you are right. Skinner Nov 2016 #20
Trump likely views it more transactionally--can he get use out of dangling Romney's name? geek tragedy Nov 2016 #23
Romney is a major contender for an Electoral College upset StatGirl Nov 2016 #31
But where's the Commerce Secretary and all the jobs people he promised? Ligyron Nov 2016 #18
Does Mitt have 10s in his binders? GeorgeGist Nov 2016 #21
I can't believe I'm happy to see Mitt and his magic underwear. Vinca Nov 2016 #24
Clueless Trump is peeking across the aisle for instruction. C_U_L8R Nov 2016 #25
He will be welcomed as the USA "real" Pres. until.... elfin Nov 2016 #26
The choice doesn't make much sense JonLP24 Nov 2016 #27
I'm ok with that democrattotheend Nov 2016 #28
what about trump's sons Qusay and Uday? dubyadiprecession Nov 2016 #29
Well, he is definitely more sane than Bolton. But isn't it.. mvd Nov 2016 #30
not a bad pick considering the rest. but i feel like maybe JI7 Nov 2016 #32
Good BainsBane Nov 2016 #33
My gut is telling me that it is going to be Corker. StevieM Nov 2016 #36
Reid said Corker would be fine BainsBane Nov 2016 #37
I'll believe it when I see it. Der fhrer is only concerned about loyalty and vengeance RAFisher Nov 2016 #39
I never thought that I would consider Romney to be a reasonable choice for SoS. Little Tich Nov 2016 #40
Definitely better than John Bolton. phleshdef Nov 2016 #41
So Trump is going to hire his predecessor's previous election opponent as his Secretary of State. phleshdef Nov 2016 #42
When your reaction is "at least he's not unhinged" Danmel Nov 2016 #43

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
2. Frankly, I would welcome Romney as SOS, considering some of the choices Trump has made
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:02 PM
Nov 2016

for other positions. At least Romney has some government experience and enough class to not embarrass the US when negotiating with other countries.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
3. What a hypocrite.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:02 PM
Nov 2016

Just another asshole whose head has been turned by the promise of a top cabinet job. Makes that great speech he gave earlier in the year just empty words.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
4. At this point, given the other names I've seen, he's the best they've offered.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:03 PM
Nov 2016

Which is sad. He's 1000% better than John Bolton, that's for sure. Still, nothing will be as bad a Jeff Sessions running the Justice Department. That's just a nightmare.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
6. Romney won't last a year as SOS
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:08 PM
Nov 2016

He'll be hated more than Colin Powell by some of the folks in the WH. For example, Mitt hates Putin. That won't go over well in Trump Tower.

haele

(12,660 posts)
8. Romney is Pence's choice.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:12 PM
Nov 2016

And from what I've observed, the modern Republicans view SoS and the State Department in general as a negligible position, window-dressing subordinate to DoD and/or NSA/CIA.

I'm pretty sure Sessions is Pence's choice, also. If you look at the way Pence ran his state, the way business is run in Alabama, and what Sessions has supported in terms of how "Justice" is supposed to work, I can easily see the match.

I think what we will see is that Trump's cabinet picks are really Pence's picks.

Here's another prediction:
By August/September, we will be in the middle of a contentious impeachment trial and contemplating a President Pence. I think Pence will turn around and float Romney as a potential VP, and someone else in a safe legislative position who's waiting to punch the party ticket will end up SoS. Or someone like Joe Manchin, that will weaken the Democrats when it comes to the balance of power. That is, if Joe Manchin doesn't already defect and run to the GOP side, because the Dems were mean to his daughter's pharmaceutical company...

Haele

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Sessions was onboard the Trump Train way before Pence was.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:13 PM
Nov 2016

He's a Trump loyalist and there's no reason to think he's Trump's guy.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. Does Rudes get DHS as a consolation prize?
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:12 PM
Nov 2016

I don't see how Romney/Trump works as a partnership. How does a globalist/interventionist carry out the foreign policy of an isolationist and Putinist whom he's called a con man?

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
34. It's the bargaining phase of grief
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:47 PM
Nov 2016

I saw Mitt on TV the other day, and I found myself wishing he could be president. Bargaining.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
12. seems like a good fit for Romney
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:36 PM
Nov 2016

compared to other insane administration choices. First post back from the russian hack with no thanks to the FBI which was too busy trying to destroy HRC. , hope things go better for DU in the future, its my only news site, don't trust anything else.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. Like others in this thread, Romney is not a crazy person so I think he would be fine
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:36 PM
Nov 2016

Given some of the names before his, at least I don't think Romney is a kook or a crazy man.
Also, I know a lot of Mormons and they are pretty good folks, so hopefully Romney is one of the good ones ( like Harry Reid)

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
16. It Will Be Interesting
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:42 PM
Nov 2016

I understand that during the press dressing down, The Trumpmeister mentioned that Mitt was 'desperate' for the SOS position. Considering the names thrown out, Romney is the least crazy. In fact, I can't believe I'm hoping that Mitt gets the job because at least he's stable and sane.

But I wonder if this is a ruse, a way of paying Mitt back for the things he said during the primary. Dangle an important position before the man, let him grovel a bit, then rip the possibility away. Wouldn't put it past the man-child Trump and his incredibly thin-skinned view of the world.

Ugh!

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
20. I would not be surprised if you are right.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:21 PM
Nov 2016

Trump doesn't strike me as the type of person who would forgive Romney for that.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. Trump likely views it more transactionally--can he get use out of dangling Romney's name?
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:32 PM
Nov 2016

He had use for Ted Cruz's email list, and then his endorsement, even after Cruz called him every name in the book.

StatGirl

(518 posts)
31. Romney is a major contender for an Electoral College upset
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:20 PM
Nov 2016

Watch Trump decide on someone else after December 19th.

I doubt very much that Romney is desperate for the Secretary of State, although I'm sure he'd like the job.

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
18. But where's the Commerce Secretary and all the jobs people he promised?
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:55 PM
Nov 2016

One would have thought that would be his number 1 priority.

Do I need the:

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
24. I can't believe I'm happy to see Mitt and his magic underwear.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:40 PM
Nov 2016

At least he won't completely embarrass us abroad.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
25. Clueless Trump is peeking across the aisle for instruction.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:56 PM
Nov 2016

Trump's incompetence never ceases to amaze.
With Romney, perhaps Trump hopes to mimic Obama's
previous successes... appointing two consecutive
Presidential contenders for Secretary of State
(who, by the way, both did amazing jobs).

So with Mittens, Trump's got his very own former prez candidate
but... one who comes with ZERO foreign policy experience.
Perhaps the logic somehow works out in Donald's spongified brain,
but Romney's apt to be yet another empty suit in the
inglorious Trump administration.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
26. He will be welcomed as the USA "real" Pres. until....
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
Nov 2016

He gets his marching orders and obeys them from his "leader."

Then he will be fired if he modulates or ignores his leader.

Just another hopeful tool of the Cheeto. Useful until he bucks Putin - and then bye bye.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
27. The choice doesn't make much sense
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:17 PM
Nov 2016

It does for Romney to increase his stock but this job usually means the person is the top foreign policy advisor to the President.

From Wiki
Participates in high-level negotiations with other countries, either bilaterally or as part of an international conference or organization, or appoints representatives to do so. This includes the negotiation of international treaties and other agreements

Responsible for overall direction, coordination, and supervision of interdepartmental activities of the U.S. Government overseas

Providing information and services to U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad, including providing credentials in the form of passports and visas
Ensures the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries

Supervises the United States immigration policy abroad

Communicates issues relating the United States foreign policy to Congress and to U.S. citizens
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_State

I don't know what Romney has to qualify him for this job. He was only a Governor. I honestly don't know what to expect which may not be a bad thing as many SoS were corrupt since John Foster Dulles

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
28. I'm ok with that
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Nov 2016

Romney is a lot more palatable to me than Bolton or Guiliani. I never thought he was a bad person.

State seems like an odd choice for him though, because he doesn't really have much foreign policy experience. Commerce or Treasury would make more sense for him. I don't even really know where he stands on a lot of foreign policy issues.

Still, the thought of Romney being our ambassador to the world doesn't terrify me.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
30. Well, he is definitely more sane than Bolton. But isn't it..
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:58 PM
Nov 2016

Really sad that we are debating bad choices vs. hideous choices? We should be debating how GOOD Hillary's choices would be. Still want to be woken up from this nightmare.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
32. not a bad pick considering the rest. but i feel like maybe
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:39 PM
Nov 2016

They want him as the person to blame if anything goes wRong.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
36. My gut is telling me that it is going to be Corker.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:23 PM
Nov 2016

There is too much wrong with Gingrich, Guiliani and Bolton, and Trump already seems to have moved away from them.

Romney bashed him too hard. And Nikki Haley has no real qualifications for the job.

That leaves Corker, who Trump seems to like.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
39. I'll believe it when I see it. Der fhrer is only concerned about loyalty and vengeance
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 12:05 AM
Nov 2016

I still think Mitt just building it up to make him feel excited. Then der führer will stab him in the back and pick someone else.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
40. I never thought that I would consider Romney to be a reasonable choice for SoS.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 12:53 AM
Nov 2016

At least he's not batshit insane...

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
42. So Trump is going to hire his predecessor's previous election opponent as his Secretary of State.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 01:37 AM
Nov 2016

He is all like "fuck, who do I choose for Secretary of State, what would Obama do?"
Well, at least what Obama did for his second term. If Trump wanted to copy Obama's first term, he would hire Ted Cruz for SOS (based on 2nd place in the primary). Still, if Romney is his choice, there are so many ironies there...

Danmel

(4,916 posts)
43. When your reaction is "at least he's not unhinged"
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:38 AM
Nov 2016

You know how bad things are. Not unhinged is a pretty low bar.

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