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brooklynite

(94,600 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:48 AM Nov 2016

Dow breaks above 19,000, S&P jumps over 2,200 as stocks hit record highs

Source: CNBC

U.S. equities opened higher on Tuesday, hitting new all-time highs, as investors awaited housing data and kept an eye on President-elect Donald Trump's policy agenda.

The Dow Jones industrial average broke above 19,000 for the first time ever shortly after the open, with Boeing contributing the most gains. The S&P 500 traded over 2,200 for the first time, as real estate and energy led advancers. The Nasdaq composite rose 0.3 percent, also trading at fresh record highs.

"Global equity markets are reacting positively to new all-time highs in the SPX," said Katie Stockton, chief technical strategist at BTIG, in a note. "Momentum is proving strong enough to overrule overbought conditions, so we think it is appropriate to be buying breakouts."

The three major indexes closed at record levels on Wednesday, along with the small-caps Russell 2000, which continues to outperform the Dow, S&P and Nasdaq since Nov. 8.

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/22/us-markets.html

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Dow breaks above 19,000, S&P jumps over 2,200 as stocks hit record highs (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2016 OP
So the down 5% stuff that horrible night was just fear jimlup Nov 2016 #1
I guess investors think the Don will bring infrastructure but wordpix Nov 2016 #2
They know his tax cuts for the rich will drive another market bubble William Seger Nov 2016 #7
You took the words from my mouth.... big gains will be temporary groundloop Nov 2016 #14
YEP Cosmocat Nov 2016 #18
Folks need to read your post and prepare Yavin4 Nov 2016 #21
Don't worry, the recession is coming and it will be a duzy. Loki Nov 2016 #3
no one can foretell the future but practically speaking, prices are too high wordpix Nov 2016 #4
And the bond market is cratering. Yields up over 50bps since the election Roland99 Nov 2016 #5
Yup, bond rates going up also means it's more expensive TexasBushwhacker Nov 2016 #16
It's the "Trump Rally" according to (at least) Fox. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #6
Irrational Exhuberence Blue Idaho Nov 2016 #8
YEP - honestly this is more troublesome than a dip would be Cosmocat Nov 2016 #17
If the market was rational, a computer program could make rational forecasts William Seger Nov 2016 #20
Thanks Obama BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #9
uh oh Afromania Nov 2016 #10
Time to cash out and watch from the sidelines Zorro Nov 2016 #11
yep, historically, price to earnings is way off the charts. elmac Nov 2016 #12
I'll give it six jmowreader Nov 2016 #15
Exactly what I did greymattermom Nov 2016 #19
Sniffles got the markets cornered elmac Nov 2016 #13
A big part of Dodd Frank was consumer protection from creditors Yavin4 Nov 2016 #22
A huge tax cut is going to benefit Wall Street prices. Not like millionaires'll go shopping with it Bucky Nov 2016 #23

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
1. So the down 5% stuff that horrible night was just fear
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:50 AM
Nov 2016

Now the false irrational exuberance? I, for one, am slowly and patiently seeking safe havens for my money.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
2. I guess investors think the Don will bring infrastructure but
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:51 AM
Nov 2016

only as long as his favorite contractors make out like bandits

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
7. They know his tax cuts for the rich will drive another market bubble
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:08 AM
Nov 2016

... just like every time it's been tried, as a flood of new money chases equity that isn't expanding at nearly the same rate. Investors who jump on it now and get out before the inevitable collapse will make vast fortunes, and of course brokers will make out like bandits regardless. The stock market is not "the economy"; it's a casino for the rich, and the house always has the advantage.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
14. You took the words from my mouth.... big gains will be temporary
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:40 PM
Nov 2016

I just wish I had a crystal ball to tell me when to abandon my 401K for safer ground.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
21. Folks need to read your post and prepare
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:53 PM
Nov 2016

Republicans in power = Bubble Economy. The markets are being fattened for the slaughter.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
5. And the bond market is cratering. Yields up over 50bps since the election
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:53 AM
Nov 2016

mortgage rates up about 0.75% (most in the 4.125% for best execution) Largest monthly jump in years!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
16. Yup, bond rates going up also means it's more expensive
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:15 AM
Nov 2016

for the government to borrow money. For a while the bond rate was equal or lower than the inflation rate. Not anymore.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. It's the "Trump Rally" according to (at least) Fox.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:56 AM
Nov 2016

When you promise to let capitalism run amok, and offer nothing for labor and consumers other than crumbs, you better ride that bubble before economics re-establishes the fact that not only do we not make it here anymore, but we can't buy it here anymore, either.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
8. Irrational Exhuberence
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 12:13 PM
Nov 2016

Been there, seen that - it's what follows that is dangerous. The market is giddy with the idea that regulations will be lifted so they start the next recession.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
20. If the market was rational, a computer program could make rational forecasts
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:35 PM
Nov 2016

I haven't seen much success with that yet (or at least it's hard to be sure the success isn't random), but it seems I could make a killing with a penny-shaving, micro-second-trading bot -- if I had one.

Afromania

(2,769 posts)
10. uh oh
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 01:42 PM
Nov 2016

In the last month or so I've been receiving more credit card offers in the mail. My gut reaction was that they were getting themselves ready to roll people up the river with "easy credit" garbage again. The last time they did it covered up the Bush administration doings. Folks were too busy buying, and flipping houses, with no money and racking up debt like nobodies business to care, that is until the music stopped.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
11. Time to cash out and watch from the sidelines
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 05:41 PM
Nov 2016

I sense the market will turn quite ugly in another 2 months.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
12. yep, historically, price to earnings is way off the charts.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:10 PM
Nov 2016

its irrational exuberance on steroids. I'm thinking about a short the DOW ETF.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
15. I'll give it six
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:58 AM
Nov 2016

This round of Irrational Exuberance is brought to you by every boiler room and bucket shop in America, who are currently singing this catchy little ditty in hopes Trump will completely deregulate their industry:



Unfortunately for them but fortunately for us, the Senate is full of people who really do NOT want to lose their seats because they didn't stop Trump from wiping out their retirement savings for the second time.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
22. A big part of Dodd Frank was consumer protection from creditors
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:55 PM
Nov 2016

Removing that protection encourages people to borrow more and more.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
23. A huge tax cut is going to benefit Wall Street prices. Not like millionaires'll go shopping with it
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:17 PM
Nov 2016

What the economy needs is consumer spending.

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