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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 02:48 PM Nov 2016

Obama Suggests Meeting With Trump Wasn't All It Was Cracked Up To Be

Source: Talking Points Memo

President Barack Obama acknowledged in a New Yorker profile published online Thursday that his first meeting with Donald Trump may not have actually lived up to its sunny official description.

“I think I can’t characterize it without…” Obama began before stopping. “At some point over a beer—off the record.” It was a noticeably different tone than the one employed by the White House after the meeting: That it was "a little less awkward" than the media might have imagined, in the words of Press Secretary Josh Earnest.

For much of the wide-ranging profile, which draws from several interviews, Obama discussed the slanted media and political environment which led to last week's victory of President-elect Trump. He highlighted the effect of fake and distorted news sites that profited handsomely from Trump’s candidacy, and to which the President-elect may owe part of his success.

“An explanation of climate change from a Nobel Prize-winning physicist looks exactly the same on your Facebook page as the denial of climate change by somebody on the Koch brothers’ payroll,” Obama said. “And the capacity to disseminate misinformation, wild conspiracy theories, to paint the opposition in wildly negative light without any rebuttal—that has accelerated in ways that much more sharply polarize the electorate and make it very difficult to have a common conversation.”

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-new-yorker-profile-trump-meeting

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. imagine it must be very hard do his duty /w the required transition 15 mins, with someone so UNFIT.
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:05 PM
Nov 2016

No wonder Obama had to speak to him for over an hour to school the republican on what the ACA really is.

elleng

(131,106 posts)
2. And the capacity to disseminate misinformation, wild conspiracy theories, to paint the opposition
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:12 PM
Nov 2016

in wildly negative light without any rebuttal—that has accelerated in ways that much more sharply polarize the electorate and make it very difficult to have a common conversation.”

Nothing like 'progress.'

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
6. That's one of the biggest problems - fake news.
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:52 PM
Nov 2016

The shit I used to get sent on Facebook dressed up to look real but mostly just propaganda.

The average person, non-college educated doesn't know how to vet stories. They don't know what parsimony means or how it applies. "Consider the source", we were told when writing papers or citing "facts", etc...

It's almost like, "well they couldn't print it if it wasn't true" or "there it is in black and white".

Jeez we're fucked.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. I can't wait
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:13 PM
Nov 2016

for "off the record". Trumpfuhrer WILL NOT BE RUNNING THINGS. He truly will be the front man, con artist sent to the podium to mouth ryans, bannons, sessions words and decisions. And pribius will be the tutor for the fuhrer making sure the fuhrer follows the party line and doesn't veer into one of his adolescent rants and tweets.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
4. and I'll bet that none of those folks
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:23 PM
Nov 2016

love the idea of Orthodox Jews running things either. How can these people hold it together without Obama as an enemy?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Sounds like the Obama's will remain our future!
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 03:31 PM
Nov 2016
"...we’re going to have to redesign the social compact in some fairly fundamental ways over the next twenty years. And I know how to build a bridge to that new social compact. It begins with all the things we’ve talked about in the past—early-childhood education, continuous learning, job training, a basic social safety net, expanding the earned-income tax credit, investments in infrastructure—which, by definition, aren’t shipped overseas. All of those things accelerate growth, give you more of a runway. But at some point, when the problem is not just Uber but driverless Uber, when radiologists are losing their jobs to A.I., then we’re going to have to figure out how do we maintain a cohesive society and a cohesive democracy in which productivity and wealth generation are not automatically linked to how many hours you put in, where the links between production and distribution are broken, in some sense. Because I can sit in my office, do a bunch of stuff, send it out over the Internet, and suddenly I just made a couple of million bucks, and the person who’s looking after my kid while I’m doing that has no leverage to get paid more than ten bucks an hour.”




Much more work to be done!
 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
16. This is very interesting. I think he is referring to a future in which massive corporate profits wi
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 10:19 AM
Nov 2016

Will mean that there simply will not be enough labor wage hours to support the population in the way that the current structure affords. We may have to work far fewer hours at higher wage or provide some sort of minimum income to people who cannot find work. Otherwise we face some a Dystopian Dickensian future where most people will have absolutely nothing. There certainly would be no middle class because every job that can be automated will be automated. We are simply not going to need the same amount of labor we currently require. Elon Musk speaks about the same thing. It could either be a glorious time when people could have much more leisure time to fulfill themselves and devote their lives to their personal dreams and interests or it could be a nightmare in with the average person doesn't have a pot to piss in and is scampling for pieces of bread.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Sorry to hear it. I'm hoping Obama can seduce Trump
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 04:43 PM
Nov 2016

into liking him enough to develop a bit of a relationship. Trump should be receptive to flattery from the president and want Obama to like him, but likely he was filled with poison by that nasty crowd around him before he set out.

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
12. Me too. "Obama-wan, you're our only hope."
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 08:08 PM
Nov 2016

No illusion that Cheryl would change his stripes too much, but that "the butterfly effect" might be sufficient to avert a complete disaster.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Ivanka might be a hope also. She's Trump's favorite,
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 08:30 PM
Nov 2016

and she and her husband are very different from those wolves, the extremist ideologues, raging bigots, and wannabe kleptocrats, circling him and snarling over who gets what. No angels for sure, but reportedly they're both "all in" for Trump, which is very different from the rest of them.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
10. Seeing Obama sitting with Trump after that meeting, it was notable how strange his
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 07:24 PM
Nov 2016

expression was. You know that once in the privacy of the residence, Obama confided to Michelle "You cannot believe what a nitwit he is. We are in for a rough ride."

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
11. The tone was what a hostage-taker negotiator would use when reporting on the mental condition
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 08:06 PM
Nov 2016

Of a man with a bomb.

ramapo

(4,589 posts)
13. Should've just handed him the keys
Fri Nov 18, 2016, 08:19 PM
Nov 2016

Here you go asshole, good luck!

But Obama actually takes his job seriously

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