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Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 11:47 AM Nov 2016

Mexican Peso Slides After U.S. Poll Shows Trump Edging Ahead

Source: Bloomberg

Easily-traded currency is used as proxy for election results

ABC poll places Trump 1 percentage point ahead of Democratic

Mexico’s peso slid to a three-week low after a poll showed Republican candidate Donald Trump ahead in the presidential race a week before the vote.
The currency fell 1.1 percent to 19.0652 as of 8:04 a.m. in Mexico City after the ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll placed Trump 1 percentage point ahead of Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. The peso fell 0.8 percent on Friday after the Federal Bureau of Investigation said it was re-opening an inquiry into Clinton’s use of e-mail. The Brazilian real fell 0.7 percent, reversing an earlier gain.
Mexican exporters are heavily dependent on access to the U.S. market and Trump has said he would revisit the North American Free Trade Agreement that governs commerce between the two countries, threatening the motor of Mexico’s growth. The peso is the second-most liquid currency in emerging markets and has become an easy-to-trade proxy for investors’ perceptions of who will win the White House.

“The Mexican peso is really being driven by what’;s going on in the U.S. elections,” said Simon Quijano-Evans, an emerging-market strategist at Legal & General Group Plc in London. “This is going to be the case for many emerging-market currencies for the next seven days: markets are going to be second-guessing what a Trump win or loss means. The Mexican peso has a higher correlation, but there is general spillover.”

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-01/mexican-peso-slides-after-u-s-poll-shows-trump-edging-ahead



USDMXN now at 19.10.
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Mexican Peso Slides After U.S. Poll Shows Trump Edging Ahead (Original Post) Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 OP
Good god. Who cares? grubbs Nov 2016 #3
People do use it as a proxy for the election since people are... Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #5
Horseshit. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2016 #15
Private polling - willingness to spend on more expensive sampling. consultants blah blah. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #16
Again. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2016 #17
Thanks for knowing everything. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #18
Everything? No. Just that what you said is horseshit. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2016 #19
I know about mathematics and trading. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #20
Horseshit. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2016 #21
K. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #22
So you admit what you are saying is horseshit then? Imperialism Inc. Nov 2016 #24
Complete unadulterated horseshit. Happy? Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #26
Under Trump, the dollar will be worthless liberal N proud Nov 2016 #4
A lot of problems with this headline. First of all it does NOT say trump is ahead still_one Nov 2016 #6
Damn this shit annoys me (not you) - Trump is NOT "edging ahead" - one outlyer NATIONAL poll.... George II Nov 2016 #7
How'll they ever pay for the wall now!? n/t SpankMe Nov 2016 #10
DUzy! BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #12
My wife and I are headed to Mexico in December jcgoldie Nov 2016 #11
Not so quick doomday trolls Cryptoad Nov 2016 #13
The people speculating on USDMXN are betting hundreds of millions...billions of dollars. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #14
try reading the link,,, Cryptoad Nov 2016 #23
FX is a much MUCH bigger market. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #25
Never said it wasn't Cryptoad Nov 2016 #27
Disagreed in this case. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #29
Are you pro-Trump? alcibiades_mystery Nov 2016 #28
Good god no. I will leave this country if he is elected. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #30
You sound throughout this thread like you want Trump to win alcibiades_mystery Nov 2016 #31
Just asserting odds. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #32
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Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
5. People do use it as a proxy for the election since people are...
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 11:59 AM
Nov 2016

...are putting their money where their mouth is. Trump truly being ahead would probably mean USDMXN around 20 (was 19.9 before first debate), so HRC still ahead, but less so according to traders who do possess a lot of info.

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
19. Everything? No. Just that what you said is horseshit.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:51 PM
Nov 2016

The only one claiming someone knows everything is you about "traders".

Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
20. I know about mathematics and trading.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:59 PM
Nov 2016

I know next to nothing about art and poetry. I know what I know and more importantly, what I don't know.

still_one

(92,475 posts)
6. A lot of problems with this headline. First of all it does NOT say trump is ahead
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:00 PM
Nov 2016

the MOE is +- 3. That means it is a tie

Second, it is a national poll which does not correctly factor in the electoral college, and every analyst who looks at the state polls, such as Nate Silver, giving overwhelming odds to Hillary

That doesn't make for headlines though, so they will continue to spew distortions

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Damn this shit annoys me (not you) - Trump is NOT "edging ahead" - one outlyer NATIONAL poll....
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:01 PM
Nov 2016

....has him with a tiny lead. When we elect Presidents via a national poll I'll give these things some thought. Clinton is STILL far ahead in states totaling about 250 Electoral votes, and leading in other states that put her over 270 Electoral votes. More than 25 million people have already voted.

This crap from the media is just ridiculous.

Remember the Brexit vote, and the day after when the market "crashed" (dropped a little bit)? Networks were whining "the sky is falling" and calling for another major recession. The market rebounded in a WEEK and now it was just a slight blip in the big picture.

jcgoldie

(11,656 posts)
11. My wife and I are headed to Mexico in December
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:20 PM
Nov 2016

Devaluing the peso would make our dollars a lot more valuable there. Good god how I hope president elect Clinton gives the peso a boost and our vacation costs more!

Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
14. The people speculating on USDMXN are betting hundreds of millions...billions of dollars.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:53 PM
Nov 2016

Predictwise has got nothing on this.

Also, these traders are not seeing an orangefuck win - for that USDMXN probably needs to be at least 20.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
23. try reading the link,,,
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:05 PM
Nov 2016

Predictwise is a data collection dump for people placing millions $ of bets on the Race...........

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
27. Never said it wasn't
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:15 PM
Nov 2016

never is was not an important indicator
FX changes for many reason not related to the election
Election gambling is a more true reflection of what's happening

Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
29. Disagreed in this case.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:23 PM
Nov 2016

Current account deficits, import/export, price of oil, etc are driving much less of the USDMXN vol than the US election.

2w implied vol at the money is 31%!! Would be 12% or so without the event risk.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
28. Are you pro-Trump?
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:23 PM
Nov 2016

You know about mathematics and trading. Do you know anything about honesty and integrity?

Are you pro-Trump?

Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
30. Good god no. I will leave this country if he is elected.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:25 PM
Nov 2016

To be clear, Hillary still has a 2.75:1 edge on winning. I am much more worried if USDMXN cracks 20. 19.24 now.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
31. You sound throughout this thread like you want Trump to win
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:26 PM
Nov 2016

It's a pretty disturbing spectacle to see pro-Trump posters are DU

Lucky Luciano

(11,264 posts)
32. Just asserting odds.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:32 PM
Nov 2016

I would be absolutely crushed if orangefuck wins.

I have repeatedly said that worrying only really begins at USDMXN around 20. We are still well off that amount.

I have repeatedly refused to mention orangefuck by name.

Don't know why that makes me pro-orangefuck.

I will tell you how I am genuinely "concerned" - the down ticket races.

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