Republican HQ in Orange County firebombed (North Carolina)

[MowCowWhoHow III]

Source: Charlotte Observer

Hillsborough police are investigating an apparent firebombing of the Orange County Republican headquarters, an incident that one state GOP official called an act of “political terrorism.”

Police say the incident occurred when a bottle of flammable liquid was thrown through the front window of the office on Ja-Max Dr.

“The office itself is a total loss,” said Dallas Woodhouse, executive director of state GOP. “The only thing important to us is that nobody was killed, and they very well could have been.”

Police said the words, “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else” were spray painted on the side of an adjacent building.

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article108627627.html

[MANative]

1. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Although... if the same happened to a Dem HQ, they'd call it a false flag op.

[Stryst]

43. I was going to go ahead and call it a false flag op.

If not some kind of half baked insurance fraud. But then I realized that every word in the sign left behind was spelled correctly.
So, yeah, not all dems/progs/leftists are good either.

[Kire]

60. Alex Jones believes it.

So it's not a false flag, then. Right?

[Monk06]

74. Reichstag office fire

[wordpix]

95. my thought, too

[Stryst]

97. And five years later was Kristallnacht

I doubt trump and his supporters will be that patient.

[Monk06]

98. This time Trump Haters Nacht Women, BLM, International Bankers (Jews) Color coded triangle

arm patches for everybody

[Botany]

2. Trump and his speech is like a lighted match and gasoline

n/t

[cstanleytech]

3. Ok who wants to wager that if they catch whoever did it that it will actually be a Republican

who set the fire? Anyone? Anyone in the back? Anyone at all?

[Cracklin Charlie]

8. With a backward "B" on their face?

[Divine Discontent]

17. First thing I thought of also. They want to spread the 'election is rigged' BS of Donny and claim

their voters are scared. I'm not saying it wasn't someone against Donnie, but it's also highly probable it was someone for him, as well!

[Cracklin Charlie]

21. That was my daughter's halloween costume in 2008!

Memories!

[Divine Discontent]

22. bahaha...

[Missn-Hitch]

32. Could you explain what this means? It does not ring a bell.

[Lulu KC]

48. I did not know either--blocked from memory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax

[Missn-Hitch]

49. Ah, yes. Thank you. I do remember this. Reminds me of the cop

in TX, I think, that destroyed his truck and painted BLM on the side. He was trying to kill two birds with one stone. 1. Disparage BLM and 2. collect the insurance. Scum.

I am looking forward to hearing the outcomes of the investigations (including the cars vandalized today in Maine).

[Divine Discontent]

88. glad someone answered you. I didn't see you had replied.

The people or person who did it also left insulting words they said, so it sure made a lot of us think it was a faked event because wouldn't the action be clear enough without writing words, but who knows. Whoever did it is screwed in the head!

[Missn-Hitch]

91. Indeed. It's going to be his supporters doing this.

I hope they catch the perpetrators quickly. It's great our folks raised the money to help rebuild their space.

The spray painting of cars and the "nazi" graffiti on their HQ - made me raise an eyebrow.

Cheers!

[TeamPooka]

30. KKK did it to stir it up.

[wysi]

34. Just what I was thinking

False flag operation.

[machoneman]

37. Uh oh! Shades of the Reichstag fire that brought you -know-who to power in Germany!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

[wysi]

47. Even closer to home...

KKKarl Rove orchestrating the vandalism of a republican electoral office several years ago.

[paleotn]

57. beat me to it...

....as Sam Clemens supposedly said, history does not repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

[liberalmuse]

35. I'm in!

It's just too convenient.

[agingdem]

51. Never bet on a sure thing..

This stinks of a set up!!!

[trof]

67. tea bagger

[knightmaar]

4. Is this the fragmented Republican party bombing itself?

Or do we really think this was a radical leftist?

[dawnie51]

5. What better way to start some crap.....

than doing some self-destruction. I find this and the car vandalism in New Hampshire very suspicious. This is not the way Democrats handle things. This is textbook Rethug however.

[C Moon]

70. Especially because we're going to win.

[MADem]

6. I would guess that an alt-right type was hired to do this job.

Trying to generate sympathy, or something.


The cops can't read, apparently--it says "leave town" not "get out of town" ....

And the hate-filled messages that follow the piece demonstrate that on the (alt) right, irony is truly dead.

[6000eliot]

7. Strange coincidence that this and the car vandalism story are coming out at the same time.

Strange.

[cstanleytech]

10. Agreed. I dont recall such things during the 2000 and 2004 elections when Bush was running being

committed by Democrats which is why I lean more towards it actually being a Republican behind thus ultimately.

[Ms. Yertle]

79. Ahem . . .

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/12498215/ns/politics/t/lawmakers-son-sentenced-slashing-tires/#.WAQQmuArLNM

MILWAUKEE — A congresswoman’s son and three Democratic campaign workers were sentenced Wednesday to four to six months in jail for slashing tires outside a Bush-Cheney campaign office on
The men pleaded no contest in January to misdemeanor property damage. A fifth worker was found not guilty.
“This case had to be a public example of what can happen when you interfere with voters’ rights,” said Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Michael Brennan, who rejected prosecutors’ recommendation of probation for the four men.
The state Republican Party had rented more than 100 vehicles to give rides to voters and poll monitors on Nov. 2, 2004. The cars were parked outside a GOP campaign office when the tires were punctured. The vandalism left the drivers scrambling for new vehicles.

[cstanleytech]

84. Did I say they never occured? No. nt

[Festivito]

18. Same statement MO. GOPer quote uses assumptive phrasing.

"political terrorism" so there is no way for the reader easily to question the unproven source of the act, or that the source of the act is unproven.

[semby2]

9. Trump

I'm sure Trump will use this to inflame the country further.

If it WAS leftist Anti-Trump forces who did this, it's really effing stupid!

[forest444]

11. Self-victimization. Fascists always reach for this just before elections they would otherwise lose.

Note also that this happened in North Carolina - a state that is on the cusp on turning reliably Blue.

Location, location.

[Divine Discontent]

25. Yep. It's done in the most clearly 50/50 state. And as jeanmarc said below, as if the bombing

doesn't say clearly what is meant, supposedly, they wrote a message to make it reallllllllly obvious they were anti-GOP...

uh-huh, sure.....

[forest444]

54. "A message so preposterously obvious it's sole effect could only be to exonerate the target."

"And who would want to do that, but an accomplice." - Hércule Poirot, in Death on the Nile.

[Divine Discontent]

63. Nice!

---Republicans aren't sending their best. They're sending criminals. They're sending rapists---

[forest444]

64. Thread winner!

Divine Discontent, I wish EarlG (or yourself, if you'd like) would make a meme on election day with that very phrase emblazoned over Drumpf's doughy face. Perfect!

[Divine Discontent]

72. that sounds like a great idea :) n/t

[Third Doctor]

12. I wouldn't put it past them

to do this to their own building to gain sympathy. Most Dems wouldn't do something like this and it has all of the signs of rw extremism.

[closeupready]

14. Yup. Google "Parlock". Or not even - consider the Gulf of Tonkin.

Long history of these kinds of dirty tricks from the political right.

[subterranean]

41. I was thinking along those same lines.

This could have been done to incite Trump supporters to commit acts of violence against Democrats. Whether or not that was the purpose, it could be the result.

[Festivito]

13. ODD: CharlotteObserver.com puts wrong writ in quotes?! Why?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article108627627.html writes:

“Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”

Yet, the picture says if I read correctly past the columns:

( NA)ZI REPUBLICANS
( )LEA(V)E TO(W)N

How does a newspaper goof up with a picture in the article?

[subterranean]

16. They were quoting the police.

Although if they had the photo of the spray-painted message, why would they need the police to tell them (inaccurately) what it said?

[Festivito]

29. True dat. The MO concerns me more than the misquote by police.

Always a quick statement by a GOPer official and no response from any Democratic party official.

[Coyotl]

15. Does this involve Roger Stone?

[Divine Discontent]

19. Would be the type of ridiculous event Trump would bring up in a debate and say you've got your

supporters so full of hate in their hate, like you, that they're doing these horrible things!


He's sick enough to do it... He said she was on drugs at the last debate after many people implied his behavior in the debates seemed like someone pepped up on something. He claims she is the one with hate in her heart. He says she's the anti-black politician and so on... He's like a 7 yr old, 'I know you are, but what am I!"

[winstars]

24. Ever heard of THE REICHSTAG FIRE??? More BS...

[Ford_Prefect]

26. The Alt-Right here aren't organized enough to do false flag, but their leadership is.

The timing seems more like Scare than harm as such. The damage is bad but nothing like a few black churches I can recall. The writing seems adult height.

Orange County is strongly Democratic but the rural 1/3 is republican with tea party leanings. It seems odd that anyone local and democrat would bother with this much attention to them, let alone fire bomb. There are other places I would expect this to happen in NC but not Hillsborough. I live 8 miles west of here and know the area and people well. This is SOOOOO out of character for a Democrat.

I will say that a few of the Libertarians I know might TALK this kind of angry. I don't see them as motivated enough to risk the police response to it. Whoever did this planned to do it and took their time writing on the nearby building. This kind of graffiti attack is uncommon around here but we have had some appear near several colleges.

Judge for yourself here at WRAL TV a local NC station:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/image/16122472/?ref_id=16122453

[LeftInTX]

31. It looks like the fire was started from inside the building

[Ford_Prefect]

38. Something was thrown trough a window, as I heard it.

It isn't clear how much burned but I am surprised that in only appears to have been the inside of the office and did not travel further in that building or along the others adjoining it. For a fire set in anger it seems rather modest.

No mention has been made of when it was seen and how it was put out, or by whom. That is a bit odd. The building is located away from any main street, on a hill behind trees that would have obscured it, in a row of buildings that are part of an antiques mall which would have been closed and empty on a Saturday night. Fire indoors there could easily gone undetected for quite a while.

The nearest fire station is 2-3 miles away. I suppose there may have been an alarm system inside but no mention has been made of one. Film at Eleven I guess, eh?

[Stonepounder]

27. It doesn't make any f**king difference who was at fault!!!!!!!!!

This is terrorism. Period. Full Stop.

This is not my country when this sort of thing happens. Whether it is Rabid Dems or Rabid Repubs. Find them. Arrest them. And throw the book at them and then LOCK THEM UP!

This has NO place in an election, regardless of what a candidate is spewing.

I want MY country back again.

[anamandujano]

50. Relax. No reason for dems to do anything but vote. This was Puke work.

[WheelWalker]

28. Remember the Reichstag

[bucolic_frolic]

33. My guess is the evidence is clear

“Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”

If a Democrat had written this, the word 'Republicans' would
not have been used, the perp would have viewed it as redundant

So this is a frustrated old time Republican unhappy with the
Tea Party or Trump usurpers

fwiw imho

[lib87]

39. Ha!

[jmowreader]

40. This feels like it was caused by basic economics

UNC basketball uniforms aren't the only blue thing in Orange County. It's one of the most liberal counties in the South, with Hillsborough in the center of the county, the University of North Carolina - Jesse Helms' favorite whipping boy - in the south and Carrboro, home of North Carolina's first gay mayor, just to the west of Chapel Hill.

I think what happened is very simple: the GOP in North Carolina is well and truly fucked this year. A lot of people there don't like Hillary...but they are good Christians and Trump is anathema to all they stand for. The state Party apparatus is probably pulling all its money out of lost-cause offices like Orange and focusing on more-friendly enclaves like west of I-77 and east of I-95. They were on the verge of getting evicted for nonpayment of rent, and decided to burn the place down to elicit sympathy. You know, what every mobster does when the banks cut them off.

[Ford_Prefect]

45. As apparent as that may seem the local GOP candidates elicit enough support to make a difference.

I doubt they were closing up shop with Senate and House seats, not to mention county commission, state legislators and especially school board at stake. Trump may be a disaster but the locals aren't falling over yet nor is the NC GOP. They seem to have plenty of money and more than enough attitude to survive Trump.

[geek tragedy]

42. where was Roger Stone? nt

[Lefthacker]

44. The orange

Ass is going to link this to the Clinton Campaign. It's all they've got left.

[broadcaster75201]

46. Does that REALLY sound like a sentence someone on the Left would use? (FALSE FLAG)

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Look. Regardless who it is they need to get caught and serve time. However, that sentense sure sounds false flag to me. People on the Left (even the nutty ones) don't talk like that.

I'd bet real money on a false flag.

[shenmue]

52. Whoa

[Lint Head]

53. This is only going to get worse.

I'm sure you have often heard it said, " If Hitler could have only been stopped before the Holocaust." There is even a television series now about people traveling back in time to change history. So the thought is in the air. Not that this is anything like Hitler or a bowing to Godwin's law, but radicals on either side are being stirred in a way not since a time prior to and the beginning of the 20th century.

[randome]

55. Thanks, Obama!

An orange lab for Orange County. Get it? Get it? Oh, give me a break.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]

[paleotn]

56. Godwin be damned....

..could this be the trumpkin version of the Reichstag fire? It's an old propaganda trick and appears about as clumsy as the Nazi version.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657

[Ford_Prefect]

61. It has the feeling of Young Republicans on the loose with permission to play dirty.

When I was at UNC-Chapel Hill the Campus GOP crowd were very militant and hazed anything that smelled of liberal or humanist spirit. They took down license numbers at a Campus Democratic function, threw water balloons in the dark at peace protesters standing vigil against the Gulf War. They did stuff and said things which should have gotten them banned from campus. But they played the contrite bully when they were called to task for it, and it is said they had well heeled and well placed friends in higher office. They certainly took the book of Rove very much to heart. To my knowledge they haven't changed at all since then.

[George II]

58. This morning when the news broke about cars in Maine being spray painted outside a Trump rally....

.....last night, I quipped "What next, burning the Reichstag?"

Little did I know how prophetic I might be.

[DeminPennswoods]

59. don't rationalize like the alt-right/rw'rs

Let the police handle and investigate this. It could be an angry leftie, it could be an idiot of no particular poltical stripe or it could be something else. Don't brush this act of vandalism off just because it suits a particular narrative. I'm betting there are surveillance cameras around that will help ID the perp.

[TryLogic]

62. Might also be a false flag event. Trump and a lot of right wing radicals want to stir up violence.

This kind of thing has potential to do that.

Update: I had not read the comments. I see that false flag appears to be a very common suspicion.

[TheDebbieDee]

65. I'd never put it past the republiCANTs to bomb their own offices...

In an effort to make Hillary supporters look bad!

[patsimp]

66. i would bet that trump orchestrated this

[Extropist]

68. Let's be real for a second...

Would we be allowing people to peddle the same sort of conspiracy theories if this was one of ours that got firebombed? Look, there are kooks on both sides of the spectrum, there's no denying that. When we peddle Trumpian conspiracies in the face of this sort of act, we degrade the high ground that we fight so hard to stand on. What's more is that we endanger our focus on being the reality-oriented party in this country.

If it comes out that it was some Reichstag-esque shenanigan, then it will come out. Putting on our coiffed wigs and strutting out infowars-lite content is below us, and we absolutely should not allow this kind of rhetoric to contaminate our party, our beliefs, our creeds.

Remember, we are all Americans, those of us who are citizens of the USA. Those words mean something. We should stand by our political opponents when something like this happens, and send a clear message that neither side should tolerate this kind of behavior. If it comes out that this was a false flag, that revelation will be underscored by our integrity and will resonate the stronger for it.

[Ford_Prefect]

87. The fire self-extinguished. No-one saw it burning according to the 6pm news.

That really is suspicious. I've been in that building back when it was a store-front, long before the GOP set up in there. That the fire was self containing is quite suspicious given all the plastic and paper signs and paperwork on the desks in that room.

[Extropist]

94. This is an opportunity for us to show people who's right.

I don't even mean "right" in a factual sense, but in a moral sense. Which party better upholds the integrity that our country should stand for? This is a perfect opportunity to show people what being a Democrat really means. Let the investigation come to its conclusions, this is a time for character and not conspiracy.

[wordpix]

96. hmm the plot thickens

[Generic Brad]

69. Why would Democrats attack an obvious loser?

There is nothing to gain by an action like this. It does not pass the sniff test.

[Divine Discontent]

89. exactly! it's not like he's expected to win!

[C Moon]

71. This is something losers do, not winners.

Hillary is going to win, so I say this was a Tea Bag operation.

[GreydeeThos]

73. False Flag

Moving on to other news...

[roamer65]

75. Right wing false flag op.

[Agnosticsherbet]

76. Find who ever did it, charge them, and try them under the terrorism laws. Violence is unacceptable.

[VMA131Marine]

77. Do you know who was a volunteer firefighter ...?

David Bossie: according to his Wikipedia page.

[Kablooie]

78. There are several reports of GOP cars and places being attacked.

Are anti Trump people actually attacking?

Damn that's stupid and wrong!!

I sure hope we discover that it's Republicans using false flag tactics to get Dems in trouble.

[oberliner]

80. Trump is blaming "Animals representing Hillary Clinton" for this

Even Frank Luntz noticed the contrast in responses:

[gwheezie]

81. Who knows?

It's pretty early in the investigation. These things usually turn out to be someone local with a grudge or some kind of delusion.

[mnhtnbb]

82. I live in Orange County, NC (Chapel Hill) and this doesn't sound like local Dems at all.

We did have an anarchist group that was somewhat active about 5 years ago--they occupied a building in Chapel Hill--but the Dems
are real pacifists around here.

The whole thing sounds fishy.

[obamanut2012]

85. I lived in CH for many years, and I agree with you

Reichstag Fire.

[Tarc]

83. This is almost certainly a false flag. Remember John McCain and the "B" Girl?

Ashley Todd Fake “Mutilation” Exposed

A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter “B” scratched on her face in what she had said was a politically inspired attack, police said Friday.

Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department’s investigations division. Todd was charged with making a false report to police, and Bryant said police doubted her story from the start.

[Divine Discontent]

90. It was just all too conveniently laughable...

A "6' 4" black male" she had claimed... Gee, she was a McCain volunteer, and didn't want the black guy to win, so she thought up the brilliant idea to carve a backwards B on her FACE!

ugh!

[Trust Buster]

86. ROGER STONE !!!!!!!!!!

[Judi Lynn]

92. Democrats Raised More Than $13,000 To Reopen A Firebombed Republican Office

Democrats Raised More Than $13,000 To Reopen A Firebombed Republican Office

“This is not how Americans resolve their differences.”

Originally posted on Oct. 16, 2016, at 10:03 p.m.
Updated on Oct. 16, 2016, at 10:40 p.m.

Claudia Koerner
BuzzFeed News Reporter

The incident was condemned across the political aisle, from presidential candidates Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to local officials — and a group of academics.

Zeynep Tufekci of the University of North Carolina’s School of Information Science first tweeted about Democrats helping the GOP office, and David Weinberger of Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Technology later launched a campaign on GoFundMe.

“Zeynep’s idea of having Democrats contribute to re-opening a Republican
office that was a victim of political terrorism — no matter who was responsible — struck a chord with me, and apparently with lots of other people,” Weinberger told BuzzFeed News.

“As Democrats, we are starting this campaign to enable the Orange County, North Carolina Republican office to re-open as soon as possible,” Weinberger wrote on the fund’s page.


More:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/democrats-raised-money-to-reopen-republican-office?utm_term=.ygK1AgK2w#.lsAG3D64x

[SunSeeker]

93. When they go low we go high! nt