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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:23 PM Oct 2016

Trump Warns Of Dark Conspiracy By Clinton, Media, And International Banks

Source: Talking Points Memo

Donald Trump on Thursday painted a picture of a global conspiracy of establishment figures hell-bent on derailing his campaign. At a campaign stop in West Palm Beach, Florida, in between attacking a wave of stories about his past inappropriate sexual behavior, Trump called the stories part of a concerted attempt to end his presidential bid.

“There is nothing the political establishment will not do, no lie that they won’t tell to hold their prestige and power at your expense,” Trump said early in the rally. “And that's what has been happening. The Washington establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exist for only one reason, to protect and enrich itself. The establishment has trillions of dollars at stake in this election.”

Trump laid out a series of elaborate connections between political, corporate, and media elites whose vast conspiracy he claimed included shipping jobs overseas at the expense of American workers and using stories of his past sexual misconduct to prevent him from winning the presidency and robbing them of their power.

"It is a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put the money in the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. Just look at what the corrupt establishment has done to our cities like Detroit, Flint, Michigan and rural towns in Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and all cross our country. Take a look at what is going on. They've stripped away the towns bare and raided the wealth for themselves and taken our jobs away, out of our country, never to return unless I'm elected president," he said.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-conspiratorial-picture-florida

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Trump Warns Of Dark Conspiracy By Clinton, Media, And International Banks (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
I'm feeling "Jews" in his message underpants Oct 2016 #1
No, don't feel like the Lone Ranger, I got the same message... DonViejo Oct 2016 #5
Me three. no_hypocrisy Oct 2016 #12
"international bankers" is often a dog-whistle meant to imply "Jews" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #13
That's the first thing I heard teach1st Oct 2016 #19
Nope - me too leftynyc Oct 2016 #23
Yes, and it's exactly like the rhetoric that Adolf Hitler used to rally the population behind him... George II Oct 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #31
Yup. As soon as I saw the word "banks". nt. marybourg Oct 2016 #33
Loud and clear. Hekate Oct 2016 #37
I sense that whenever anyone brings up global conspiracies. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #44
It's not just you, my friend Retired George Oct 2016 #47
I think it's way worse than even that. lark Oct 2016 #67
Those "international bankers"...wink, wink... madaboutharry Oct 2016 #53
Straight out of Mein Kampf and COLGATE4 Oct 2016 #61
oh wow he is copying Bernie treestar Oct 2016 #2
What, no jews? Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #3
Jews are in there. "Banks..." is not so subtle code for Jewish conspiracy... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #17
Of course. Lots more in this thread about that. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #36
Well, unlike some other minorities, he likely thinks the Jews have some power... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #42
A lot of what the RW has accomplished over the past few years, Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #49
... and Mexicans, Muslims, Women, Gays, Minorities, the Disabled, Beauty Pageant contestants ... JoePhilly Oct 2016 #4
I see he forgot the largest entity responsible for the derailment..........Donald Trump. nt cstanleytech Oct 2016 #6
Rural towns in Pennsylvania HassleCat Oct 2016 #7
Let's not forget the illuminatti Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #8
Funny coming from a man who has everything bearing his name made sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #9
All that was missing was LaRouche and his Tri Lateral Commission conspriacy talk chelsea0011 Oct 2016 #10
Remember the John Birch Society. This sounds like 1950s paranoid politics all over again. Coyotl Oct 2016 #18
Koch brothers' father was a Birch Society founder. kwassa Oct 2016 #50
Meanwhile, outside Trump's warped reality, he IS the monied elites bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #11
Really? Lanius Oct 2016 #14
He's trying to scare the media back into hounding her rather than him... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #20
Who is writing his speeches these days? Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #15
Well, considering the book he boasts he keeps by his bedside... JHB Oct 2016 #46
Great message: Friend or Foe Oct 2016 #16
That's definitely a Republican talking point, so Trump is the right messenger. Coyotl Oct 2016 #22
As a lifelong leftist Friend or Foe Oct 2016 #25
We don't want to conflate every leftist in Washington with them. Coyotl Oct 2016 #40
Replace "Banks" with "Jews" Democat Oct 2016 #21
This is full-on Alex Jones shit muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #24
Trump, has declared war on earth except for his ignorant deplorables! If there were an Antichrist, RKP5637 Oct 2016 #26
I think that Trump is partially correct vlyons Oct 2016 #28
You know... ok.. please don't piss on me for this, but.... pangaia Oct 2016 #30
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #45
Agreed 100%. pangaia Oct 2016 #48
That's the other thing. I think he flings out sentences like a monkey throwing poo.... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #56
True that. pangaia Oct 2016 #58
I am going to piss all over you GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #55
I hope you will read my post again to see what I actually said and meant. pangaia Oct 2016 #59
Nope GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #60
was gonna post something snarky about the tri-lateral commission but the comments dembotoz Oct 2016 #32
There's a full transcript of his paranoid shit here muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #34
Supermarkets across America are struggling to keep tin foil stocked n/t NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2016 #35
I thought it was due to the malfunctioning mike! Helen Borg Oct 2016 #38
Poor Wretched donald.. everyone is again 'im.. Cha Oct 2016 #39
Heil Trump Firestorm49 Oct 2016 #41
So its a huge conspiracy Third Doctor Oct 2016 #43
He's projecting onecaliberal Oct 2016 #51
Saw that. Next RW meme will be 'Hillary wants world domination' Panich52 Oct 2016 #52
He forgot to mention the Lizard People. tclambert Oct 2016 #54
...... and Jews. Don't forget the Jews. Probably pronounced Jewwwwws. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2016 #57
The JOOOOOZ are implies by "International Banks" and "Media". Odin2005 Oct 2016 #65
I figured, hey just cut the middleman. Go full "Aryan" while they're at it. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2016 #66
Yep, they're all out to get us mountain grammy Oct 2016 #62
Stupid chimp slinging his poo again. smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #63
"International Banks" sounds like an anti-Semitic euphemism for Jews. Odin2005 Oct 2016 #64
You are correct... JCMach1 Oct 2016 #70
I knew he'd go anti-Semitic when things got really bad for him. Paladin Oct 2016 #68
Trump sounds like Alex Jones. sarcasmo Oct 2016 #69

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
13. "international bankers" is often a dog-whistle meant to imply "Jews"
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
Oct 2016
Variations on these conspiracies that may not appear overtly anti-Semitic often have a latent Antisemitism about them as the words "Illuminati," "New World Order," "Zionists", "international bankers," "international monetary elite" and "financiers", "Cultural Marxists", "cultural elites" are Mad Libbed in for "Jews" and "international Jewry."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/International_Jewish_conspiracy

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
19. That's the first thing I heard
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
Oct 2016

I don't think he could be clearer about that without actually saying it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. Yes, and it's exactly like the rhetoric that Adolf Hitler used to rally the population behind him...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:53 PM
Oct 2016

....and got them to go along with him closing down the press and take over institutions in Nazi Germany.

The good thing is that even with all the scary support behind Trump, Americans know better and it won't happen.

Think of this:

Banks (especially International) = "Jews"
Media = "Jews"

It's a not so vague, and mostly unsuccessful, attempt to emulate the Nazi takeover of Germany in the 1930s.

I generally don't like all the blithe "Hitler" comparisons on sites like this, but in this case it's the most evident.

Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
44. I sense that whenever anyone brings up global conspiracies.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
Oct 2016

I've seen too many people bring up the Rothschilds and the Jews after spewing Illuminati or Bilderberg Group conspiracies, and I felt like Trump was trying to appeal to the kooks who believe that junk.

lark

(23,105 posts)
67. I think it's way worse than even that.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 09:13 AM
Oct 2016

He read up on Hitlers speeches for many years and now we are seeing the echoes if those. If russia were to somehow steal the election for him, think we'd see a hell of a lot more than echoes in his actions and policies. Scariest, meanest, most dangerous man to ever run for president. I always thought GW/Cheney were existential threats, and they were, but he's so much worse than them.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
17. Jews are in there. "Banks..." is not so subtle code for Jewish conspiracy...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:44 PM
Oct 2016
Right from Hitler's playbook.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
36. Of course. Lots more in this thread about that.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 05:45 PM
Oct 2016

Thanks for drawing my attention back to this thread. Not that I missed the Nazi similarities in Trump's rhetoric, just missed the dogwhistle. Trump is usual so blatant in his hatred, I forgot to look for encoded bits!

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
42. Well, unlike some other minorities, he likely thinks the Jews have some power...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:27 PM
Oct 2016

...(being involved with finance) and could hurt him. So he wants deniability there.

But man, every time he speaks it's like being in a time machine. I'm not surprised that racism is stilll alive and kicking in the U.S. Nor that so many of the tired old memes are still part of modern racist/sexist rhetoric. But Trump really talks like he's stuck in 1950's. Beyond being appalled and offended, I sometimes find myself thinking "Really? You can't come up with anything new? You have trot out that creaky old Jewish-bankers line like some rusted model-T?"

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
49. A lot of what the RW has accomplished over the past few years,
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:26 PM
Oct 2016

perhaps most prominently with the rise of Sarah Palin, is to make socially acceptable again, as it had been in a lot of cases in the 50s, blatant racist, misogynistic, nationalistic talk in public.

There seems to have been a lot of anger and resentment among reactionaries that they had been increasingly made to feel embarrassed when voicing their unsavory views outside their inner circles. Palin very purposely emboldened them to reject "political correctness", and they have been banding together with like-minded folks and gaining strength in numbers as a result.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. ... and Mexicans, Muslims, Women, Gays, Minorities, the Disabled, Beauty Pageant contestants ...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:26 PM
Oct 2016

... and the GOP Elite.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. Rural towns in Pennsylvania
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:29 PM
Oct 2016

Doing OK, riding the fracking wave. When it subsides, the jobs will go away, of course.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
9. Funny coming from a man who has everything bearing his name made
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:31 PM
Oct 2016

by foreign workers in foreign countries.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
18. Remember the John Birch Society. This sounds like 1950s paranoid politics all over again.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:44 PM
Oct 2016

He's channeling W. Cleon Skoussen.

Wiki: "Skousen was an anti-communist, he "ran the police department in exactly the same manner as the Communists in Russia operate their government." ... Skousen founded a group called the All-American Society, which Time magazine described in 1961 as an "exemplar of the far-right ultras."[16] Throughout the 1960s, Skousen was also admired by members and leaders of the John Birch Society, although members of the more mainstream conservative movement and the American Security Council[3] snubbed him out of fear that his controversial views would hurt the credibility of the conservative movement. ..."

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
11. Meanwhile, outside Trump's warped reality, he IS the monied elites
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:35 PM
Oct 2016

Be sure to see E.J. Dionne's WaPo column 10/12,

How the GOP’s Big Tent turned into a house of horrors

Lanius

(599 posts)
14. Really?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:43 PM
Oct 2016

The same media that has hounded her for 24 years? The same media that reports in-depth and inexhaustibly on every "scandal" of hers that has come up since 1992? Sure, Drumpf. Just take responsibility for your poor campaign and seemingly criminal conduct toward women.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
20. He's trying to scare the media back into hounding her rather than him...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:46 PM
Oct 2016

...because when they're after him, they're being unfair and how could they? Right?

JHB

(37,161 posts)
46. Well, considering the book he boasts he keeps by his bedside...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 07:09 PM
Oct 2016

....methinks the last name begins with an H.

Friend or Foe

(195 posts)
16. Great message:
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:43 PM
Oct 2016

"The Washington establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exist for only one reason, to protect and enrich itself."

WRONG MESSENGER!!!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
22. That's definitely a Republican talking point, so Trump is the right messenger.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:48 PM
Oct 2016

It is just that he's too far off in Bundyland, Whackoland, and Pornland for a lot of Republicans.

"The Washington establishment" is code for our government, we the people, and he is knocking Republicans moreso than anyone saying that.

Friend or Foe

(195 posts)
25. As a lifelong leftist
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:50 PM
Oct 2016

I feel there is no greater threat than the corporate media that controls the boulevards of information.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
24. This is full-on Alex Jones shit
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:49 PM
Oct 2016

Or Louis Farrakhan:

"How did we get into World War II? You say Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Yes, they did, but what were the forces that created in Japan the desire or the need to force them to attack America? You don't know that. But when America went to war after the attack on Pearl Harbor, she had to borrow money. There were the international bankers again. They financed all sides. And how many millions of Americans lost their lives? Suppose Hitler was trying to destroy the international bankers controlling Europe, but he went about it by attacking a whole people. All Jews are not responsible for the evil of the few who do evilBut certain Jews have used Judaism as a shield."

http://archive.adl.org/special_reports/farrakhan_own_words2/on_jewish_con.html#.V__xpPkrLIU

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
26. Trump, has declared war on earth except for his ignorant deplorables! If there were an Antichrist,
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:53 PM
Oct 2016

Trump, is it IMO!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. I think that Trump is partially correct
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:56 PM
Oct 2016

"The Washington establishment, and the financial and media corporations that fund it, exist for only one reason, to protect and enrich itself."

And what is the "Washington establishment" if not the Republican party? Bought and owned by greedy oligarchs and corporations. A vast criminal enterprise that games the system and the tax code, suppresses the vote, buys elections. Trump fails to mention that he is part of that corrupt system.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. You know... ok.. please don't piss on me for this, but....
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 05:07 PM
Oct 2016

dare I?....ok. here goes.. if you take out the sex scandals, the conspiracy to destroy him and all the dog whistle shit, there is a certain amount of truth in what he says...

...and of course leave out..

"......unless I'm elected president."



If I am REALLY stupid, just tell me. I can take it. Bobby just won the Nobel Prize.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
45. Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:42 PM
Oct 2016

...but it certainly doesn't make the clock one you should rely on. Especially given the hypocrisy that he's (1) has been running as a republican and (2) he's always been a millionaire who cheats and swindles the little guy and the middle class and anyone else out of an honest day's pay.

Which is to say, when it comes to being right, I think actions speak louder than words. So, it's rather like he said "the earth is round" but is acting like it's flat. What's the point of his words being right when his actions are all wrong? Like the broken clock, he's not right because he's "working" just because of happenstance.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
56. That's the other thing. I think he flings out sentences like a monkey throwing poo....
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

...at a wall with a target. To say he's right is pretty much to say he hit the target. But to him it's all poo to fling at the wall. He'll forget about this in the next sentence he flings. Again, what does it matter if it's right? It means nothing to him, and all it does for us is make us go, "Hm, well, he hit the target there. But he fouled it all up by using poo to hit it."

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
55. I am going to piss all over you
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:33 PM
Oct 2016

So it makes sense that there is a conspiracy of international bankers to do in the common folks? Too bad for you that 'international bankers' and such language has been code for Jews for over 100 years and was perfected by Hitler before he had total power. After that he could just straight up rail against the Jews. It has been used the same way ever since.

That speech was right out of bannon's breitbart land and was as anti-Semitic as any speech given in this nation by a major figure since prior to WWII.

This election just entered a dangerous new chapter.

Sorry it make sense to you.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
59. I hope you will read my post again to see what I actually said and meant.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:34 PM
Oct 2016


I said except for conspiracies, dog whistles, and the like.
I never said 'it' made sense to me.

And of course, he has no idea that he got some facts correct. Just pure luck.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
60. Nope
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:43 PM
Oct 2016

I read what you wrote. And disagree. There is nothing luckly correct in Donald Trump. If you agree with anything he says perhaps you should examine what you believe.

No disrespect intended and maybe we just disagree on some issues. But that speech would have been at home in Nurenberg in 1938.

All our problems are the fault of international bankers and the fat cats if we can just get rid them everything will be fine. That is what I heard.

Oh and put my opponents in jail.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
32. was gonna post something snarky about the tri-lateral commission but the comments
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 05:15 PM
Oct 2016

towards those who are jewish took the fun out of that.

the whole thing about immigrants smacks a bit to much like america turning away jews in the late 30s

funny i would have thought the line never again would at least last 100 years

Cha

(297,323 posts)
39. Poor Wretched donald.. everyone is again 'im..
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:17 PM
Oct 2016

except the assholes who are as perverted as he is.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
41. Heil Trump
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:24 PM
Oct 2016

Blah, blah, blah. The almighty blowhard doesn't like it when the game is played on him. What a sad situation we find ourselves in.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
43. So its a huge conspiracy
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:28 PM
Oct 2016

that the media and all reasonably intelligent people can see what type of douche bag he is? He's not to blame... Damn and I thought Romney was bad.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
52. Saw that. Next RW meme will be 'Hillary wants world domination'
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:54 PM
Oct 2016

Or that she's integral part of Bilderbergers, fav New World Order conspiracy theorists' world domination group.

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