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highplainsdem

(49,005 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:12 PM Oct 2016

Trump Faces Another Accusation — This Time, He Looked Up Models’ Skirts

Source: Huffington Post

Yet another woman is alleging that she witnessed inappropriate sexual advances by Donald Trump, now the Republican nominee for president.

Lisa Boyne, a health food business entrepreneur, described a disturbing episode in the mid-1990s: While at a restaurant with her and others, she said Trump paraded women in front of their table, looked under women’s skirts, and commented on whether they were wearing underwear.

-snip-

Once at the restaurant, the group met up with Casablancas, who had brought along five or six models. It quickly became clear to Boyne that this was an opportunity for Trump to meet young, attractive women. Months earlier, Trump’s then-wife Marla Maples had allegedly been caught sleeping with a bodyguard. (Trump and Maples would officially divorce in 1997.)

According to Boyne, the group was seated at a semi-circular table, with the women in the middle and Trump and Casablancas flanking either end. The women couldn’t get out of their seats without one of the men getting up ― which they refused to do. Instead, Boyne said, Trump insisted that the women walk across the table, allowing him to peer up their skirts while they did so. Trump “stuck his head right underneath their skirts,” Boyne said, and commented on whether they were wearing underwear and what their genitalia looked like.

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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-models-skirts-underwear_us_57ffd172e4b0162c043ac07f?a8zlrf6r

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Trump Faces Another Accusation — This Time, He Looked Up Models’ Skirts (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2016 OP
OK, that one stretches credulity a little. TreasonousBastard Oct 2016 #1
I agree - now if there were other similar accounts salin Oct 2016 #15
Not to me it doesn't. Seemes like a rather oddly specific thing for anyone Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #17
This one time...at Trump University.... jpak Oct 2016 #26
You sure? Even someone who 'doesn't recall' backs up a key element of the story. MADem Oct 2016 #29
I am so done with Trump oldtime dfl_er Oct 2016 #2
You have been through a lot and all I can say is I am sorry. Botany Oct 2016 #5
Thank you oldtime dfl_er Oct 2016 #6
Yes, it blows my mind that just about all women likely have PTSD.... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #21
I'm sorry oldtime dfl_er Oct 2016 #23
And I'm sorry that you had to go through what you did. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #24
Yes oldtime dfl_er Oct 2016 #25
It infuriates me, the way women and our experiences BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #27
the logistics of this are strange treestar Oct 2016 #4
I'm thinking it was a booth, not chairs n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #7
"Trump and Casablanca were at either end" treestar Oct 2016 #8
You've never seen a semicircular booth? BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #19
It even says that treestar Oct 2016 #20
We all miss stuff when we're reading. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #22
Not a chair -- a seat on a bench. They're describing a semicircular booth. highplainsdem Oct 2016 #9
OK, thanks treestar Oct 2016 #12
It sounds like it was sunnystarr Oct 2016 #10
Thanks treestar Oct 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem Oct 2016 #16
If you're in a semi-circular booth seated on a banquette it is a simple thing to MADem Oct 2016 #30
thanks that helps! treestar Oct 2016 #31
Trump is pond scum Gothmog Oct 2016 #13
Rev Jerry Falwell Jr still supports Trump left-of-center2012 Oct 2016 #14
Did he look up the 10 year old girls skirts HockeyMom Oct 2016 #18
What's next? Shoe Mirrors? flashsmith99 Oct 2016 #28
Good thing Hillary always wears pant suits to debate. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #32

salin

(48,955 posts)
15. I agree - now if there were other similar accounts
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
Oct 2016

that would be different. The story doesn't have the same sense of confirmation (that others had been told about the account at the time) that the other stories have.

He is still reptilian to the core.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. You sure? Even someone who 'doesn't recall' backs up a key element of the story.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 02:20 PM
Oct 2016

From the link:

Another woman who was at the dinner said she couldn’t recall Trump acting in that fashion. However, she did confirm that the dinner took place, acknowledged that Boyne was there and suggested that women were climbing atop tables that evening.


oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
2. I am so done with Trump
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:17 PM
Oct 2016

I'm starting to get nauseated every time a new charge comes out. For those of us (and that's almost all -- if not all -- women) this campaign is stirring up a bit or a lot of PTSD. When I think of all the times I've been assaulted, groped, insulted, spoken to dismissively, ignored, felt up, touched inappropriately, felt unsafe, threatened, lost a job because I wouldn't "accomodate" the boss, raped (once) and forced to give head against my will (once), it makes me a little sick. I can't wait for this to be over.

Botany

(70,518 posts)
5. You have been through a lot and all I can say is I am sorry.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:27 PM
Oct 2016

I hope you find some joy and peace. And just remember that when you vote against Trump and for
Hillary you wiil have real power. I will print out your statement and bring it w/me when I vote next week.

I wish you well.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
6. Thank you
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:29 PM
Oct 2016

I didn't post in order to get sympathy but I deeply appreciate your comments. I hope people realize -- as you already do -- that this campaign is causing a lot of pain for a lot of people.

I do have joy and peace but it took a long time to get there.

Peace!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
21. Yes, it blows my mind that just about all women likely have PTSD....
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 07:11 PM
Oct 2016

AND, that PTSD is still widely considered an affliction of soldiers.

I have C-PTSD, and I rarely see either disorder mentioned outside of that context. Yet 2-3million women are battered or murdered every year by their partner.
And that's just Domestic Violence.

The massive problem of male violence against women is so downplayed in this country and around the world, I could scream.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
23. I'm sorry
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:05 PM
Oct 2016

for what happened to you. C-PTSD is, for those who don't know, Complex PTSD, for people who suffered long term trauma. It's time we started talking about PTSD in wider terms than only military trauma.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
24. And I'm sorry that you had to go through what you did.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:26 PM
Oct 2016

My "stuff" wasn't sexual, although once I hit puberty, I did experience all of the dismissal, insults, groping, lies to get sex and abusive relationships that pretty much ALL women experience.

Yes, it's important. I'm certain that many women don't get a proper diagnosis because so few people think of PTSD outside of a military context.

I know I wasn't diagnosed until about 3 years ago!!! And I'm almost 59!!!! And been in therapy many times since I was in my mid 30's. I actually started thinking I must have PTSD before my current therapist, but it was good to have it validated.

I'm sick sick FUCKING sick of misogyny being the status quo.


oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
25. Yes
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:13 PM
Oct 2016

What you and I have lived through is really closer to the norm than anything exceptional for women. It's the way we live.

And I like what you said: "...many women don't get a proper diagnosis because so few people think of PTSD outside of a military context. "

True!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
27. It infuriates me, the way women and our experiences
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:21 PM
Oct 2016

Are discounted. If women die, it's isolated instances. If it was a sexualized crime, the dead naked body is of interest, but the woman as a human being who affected the world around her--that is nothing.

If a woman does something great, that is ignored.
If she did it while naked, well then she'll be of great interest......


treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. the logistics of this are strange
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:25 PM
Oct 2016

they could not get out of a chair but could get up to stand on a table? And walk across to where?

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. You've never seen a semicircular booth?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:53 PM
Oct 2016

They exist. The people sitting in the inner arc are blocked in by the person at each end.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. It even says that
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:59 PM
Oct 2016

in the article! Shows I was not reading well.

What jerks Don the Con and the other guy were for refusing to get up. Very ungentlemanly.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. We all miss stuff when we're reading.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 07:24 PM
Oct 2016

Ugh...pukenstein.....I missed what year this happened, but even if it was yesterday, too many women are too used to being ordered around by men.

We can assume they were most of them drinking and partying, so in that case I could imagine people being goofy enough to get up on a table...and that's where my tolerance ends.
Dump is a goddamn creep and pile of sewage.

highplainsdem

(49,005 posts)
9. Not a chair -- a seat on a bench. They're describing a semicircular booth.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
Oct 2016

If it's large enough, and the models typically thin, there'd be room for agile young women to climb up onto the bench and then walk across the table as part of Trump's demeaning, disgusting little game.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
10. It sounds like it was
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:41 PM
Oct 2016

one of those semi-circular booths. But it's hard to believe that they actually stood up on their seat and walked across on the table to get out. One would need some help to do that.

Response to sunnystarr (Reply #10)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. If you're in a semi-circular booth seated on a banquette it is a simple thing to
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 02:32 PM
Oct 2016

step up on the banquette and either crawl/walk over the table to the space between the other tables in the restaurant, where one walks to take one's seat. Picture yourself in the corner booth at Denny's, hemmed in by two cretins, and there ya have it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. thanks that helps!
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:04 PM
Oct 2016

I have been in those with little kids who have no problem going under the table and want to play there. Can't imagine stepping up on it with a pervert at the end!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
18. Did he look up the 10 year old girls skirts
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:43 PM
Oct 2016

on that escalator too? Donald, you are a stupid pervert. We women, and MOTHERS, know all about this one. Pants, or Gym shorts under skirts, especially for our young daughters.

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