Ind. office raided in growing voter fraud case

[vinny9698]

Source: USA Today

The investigation began in late August when police learned of the filing of fraudulent voter registration forms in Marion and Hendricks counties. The investigation has expanded from Marion and Hendricks counties to include Allen, Delaware, Hamilton, Hancock, Johnson, Lake and Madison counties, according to a statement from State Police

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/132b707c-a5b9-3a40-8b32-e5b373512cc6/ss_ind.-office-raided-in-growing.html

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[MADem]

1. Criminal cheaters in Mike Pence's Indiana? Oooooooh noooooo!!!!! nt

[Ligyron]

2. It's just as we thought.

almost all fraud is attributable to the RW and GOP operatives.

[Democat]

3. Republican vote fraud by Trump supporters

Will the media ask for Trump's opinion on this?

[Grins]

4. It is NOT a RW voter group.

It gets and spends its money supporting Democrats!

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/patriot-majority-usapatriot-majority-pac/

[turbinetree]

7. I agree with you-------------100%

they are trying to to get people out to vote and they are trying to protect the citizens to have a voice in voting.

Anything out of the Pence team has to be suspect, he needs to have his state vote for the herr dumpster.

This is not a RW group, very much the opposite

[turbinetree]

5. Is this Patriot Majority, from the looks of there operation, they are not what it appears

in this article, it looks like , someone within the Pence government is targeting them and not the other way around

http://www.patriotmajority.org/about

[cntrygrl]

6. Found this in Evansville Press (IN) which includes Ohio.

[link:http://www.courierpress.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/05/indiana-police-raid-voter-fraud/91588742/|

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

8. Uh no, doesnt look like they are RW - in spite of their name they appear to be progressive but in a

kinda Teddy Roosevelt kind of way....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/majority-pac-2012-patriot-usa-ads_n_1817330.html
http://www.patriotmajority.org/patriot-action-plan

So if Pence's Indiana troops are cracking down on this apparently effective voter registration effort then I gotta ask.... what's really going on, is it really what they say it is?

Storm trooper tactics - seizing phones & computers.... eiither this is a legit law enforcement thing, or..... a scary harbinger of what a police state under Trump/Pence might look like.

[Yo_Mama]

10. I suspect this is not partisan - someone did change registered voters' info

This from September, when the alert was first publicized:
http://m.thehoosiertopics.com/news/2016-09-27/Front_Page/Authorities_warn_of_possible_voting_fraud_in_India.html#.V_T8zI8rLX4

But this could have happened as staffers tried to "complete" incomplete forms that could not be submitted to the registration offices.

However it happened, it is pretty bad when registered voters find out their information has been changed without their knowledge, and an investigation is warranted.

Sometimes this sort of thing happens as youthful over-enthusiasm; sometimes it is more organized. The investigation now seems aimed at figuring out if it is organized.

[Yo_Mama]

9. Patriot Majority is dem/liberal - founded by Varoga

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/patriot-majority-usa/

Patriot Majority USA was founded in 2005 by Democratic political strategist Craig Varoga, who managed former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack’s presidential campaign in the 2008 election and was national field director for Gen. Wesley Clark’s 2004 campaign. Varoga is also the group’s president.

The Indiana Voter Registration group is supposed to be non-partisan, so this sucks.

Also see Varoga & Associates:
http://www.varoga.us/page.php?id=94510

It is not often that you will find a RW group working on the re-election campaign of the leading Democratic senator!!!

[csziggy]

18. Varoga says the questionable forms had already been flagged by IVRP

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Craig Varoga, president of Patriot Majority, said because the IVRP has been specifically referenced in a statement from Secretary of State Connie Lawson, the investigation could impede the processing of the 45,000 voter registration cards that have been completed through the organization across the state.

The IVRP uses quality-control procedures in an effort to catch issues with voter registrations. Varoga said any of the applications that have been earmarked as fraud were already earmarked by the IVRP as incomplete or incorrect.

For example, if someone transposes digits in a phone number or forgets to fill out their ZIP code, the canvasser cannot complete that information for them, Varoga said. That card would then be flagged before being turned over to the local clerk's office.

"If they transpose a number and that’s inaccurate, that’s a mistake," he said. "That’s not fraud."
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2016/10/04/state-police-raid-indy-office-growing-voter-fraud-case/91540816/

I know here in Florida our voter registration training emphasizes that the volunteers CANNOT write on the front of the form at all. Only the voter is allowed to do that. If someone needs help filling out the form we have to ask them to contact the Supervisor of Elections office and request help from them. We ask that the registrant review the form for mistakes but we cannot "fix" them. We do put the date and time on the back once the form is completed - that is the only writing that is allowed by the volunteers.

Third party voter registration groups such as campaigns have to get special forms from the supervisor's office. We are responsible for every form we get from the campaign - they are numbered and blocks of numbered forms are checked out to each volunteer. The campaign will be charged $5000 for EACH form not returned to the supervisor's office. If a form is messed up, we mark it "Void" and still have to return it to the supervisor's office. Oh - we have ten days from the date the forms are completed to return them to the supervisor's office.

[Yo_Mama]

19. Wow - that's draconian. I imagine it does make the process very secure!

The original forms that caused the investigation were apparently detected by the registration clerks rather than IVRP. So somewhere the process failed (the invalid forms were apparently checked with the real voters).

I don't think this is purely political.

Varoga, who is neither LE nor part of the government, cannot possibly know what he is saying. I am not accusing him of anything; the officials who do this know all about such errors. Nor are they right wing, necessarily. For example, the county clerk of Marion:
http://www.indianapolisrecorder.com/news/article_1dff5e60-86bc-11e4-a526-ff8ed80d7010.html

Dem, African-American, is damned sure not going to be part of any voter suppression.

[csziggy]

20. It's better than it was for a while

The GOP owned Florida legislature originally passed a law that said voter registration forms had to be turned in within 48 hours. That meant if a group had a Friday night voter registration event, they could not get the ballots turned in on time. The League of Women Voters sued and got that changed to the ten day requirement.

What I do know is that the Florida Democratic Party enters every voter registration form they receive into their data base before it is turned into the Supervisor of Elections. So if a form has incorrect information FDP would know it - but they would still be required to turn in the incorrect form.

I don't know if it is that way in Indiana but I would not be surprised since the GOP has been using the same playbook to make it harder for third party organizations to register voters. If third party organizations do follow the same routine as we do here, Varoga might be familiar with what is normally done.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Possible that they were forms submitted by Republican double agents to create a problem.

I'd like to see that angle investigated.

That would be a Roger Stone style dirty trick.

Or maybe some Democrats were very stupid. That is uncommon but happens.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

12. Or some combination thereof - systematic infiltration/provocateur-ing go back at least as far as

the early 1900s labor movement if not well before - certainly during the 60s upheaval.

[Coyotl]

13. Expect it to be part of a larger scheme then, to accusse Dems of fraud.

[2naSalit]

16. That's my first thought....

make it look like Ds are fraudulent... a Rovian tactic. I suspect the timing is also suspect and thus may well have been designed to kick a whole bunch of Ds out of the voting booth. I want more info on this.

[RandiFan1290]

14. Publicons will fight the election results

This is part of the plan.

They will try to get the republicon Congress to pick our President.

[turbinetree]

15. And while this is going we have this so called "non-profit" singing this tune

with this wack job, sounding like another RW carnival barker, trying to gin up more BS

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/true-vote-director-claims-obama

[egeorgequi]

17. Pense's goons strike hard and fast, 45,000 voters turned away at the poles.

Investigation ongoing, no charges, no information until after the election. You can't even see the search warrant, just go in by force and take their records, their laptops and cellphones. - "SHUT IT DOWN!! There's too many damn Democrats registered already!"

And the truth will disappear just like the votes.
After the election none of it matters.
That's why violence works.

George

[Mamajami]

21. They seem to be calling typos and transposed digits, and other errors "fraud."

The State Trooper leading the investigation is running for GOP office. If you are wary of your voting status in IN go here:

https://indianavoters.in.gov/PublicSite/PublicMain.aspx