Chris Collins: 'People Now Don't Die From Prostate Cancer, Breast Cancer'
Source: Huffington Post
GOP congressional candidate Chris Collins knows health care is expensive these days, but he argues it's for good reason: People are no longer dying from deadly forms of cancer.
"People now don't die from prostate cancer, breast cancer and some of the other things," he told The Batavian in an interview that was flagged Tuesday by City & State NY. Collins was discussing his desire to repeal Obamacare.
"The fact of the matter is, our healthcare today is so much better, we're living so much longer, because of innovations in drug development, surgical procedures, stents, implantable cardiac defibrillators, neural stimulators -- they didn't exist 10 years ago," he continued. "The increase in cost is not because doctors are making a lot more money. It's what you can get for healthcare, extending your life and curing diseases."
In fact, a lot of people do die from breast cancer and prostate cancer, despite advances in treatment. An estimated 577,190 people in the United States will die from cancer this year, including about 39,920 deaths from breast cancer and 28,170 from prostate cancer, according to the American Cancer Society.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/03/chris-collins-cancer_n_1647196.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)mouth breather.
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)But, they are all poor so you don't care about them.
cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)than most people will earn within their lifetime."
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)The Repugs attitude toward the poor ( a lot of them are too) its inhuman.
SharonAnn
(13,778 posts)He had great health care.
It's not as common, perhaps, as it used to be, but it still can kill (and does) whether or not you have health care. Some cancers have various levels of agressiveness and fatality.
And, I know several women (white and wealthy) who died of breast cancer. I think the death rates for that are higher than for prostate cancer.
There are several types of breast cancer and prostate cancer. Some are detected and treated early and some are not. Some kill even with treatment and some don't.
There's not just ONE kind of cancer of ONE kind of cancer situation.
dmr
(28,349 posts)It's incurable, & I'm alive by the grace of a cancer drug. So, as long as I keep responding to therapy, I'll be walking the halls of DU & out irritating Republicans.
But, as you say, some cancers aren't caught in time; and some cancers, as mine, grow very quickly & have a party metastasizing in all nooks, crannies & bone joints.
The horrible pain & side affects from the combination of the cancer & it's therapy have made me less inclined to keep my mouth shut when I meet up with teabagger idiots or sell outs like this guy.
I don't know what the future holds for me (well, I guess in a way, I do! ), but I hate, hate, hate when these asshats say stupid things like this with the air of authority, because it makes gullible teabaggers believe him.
These predators talk about how wonderful our healthcare is - ok, yea, we do have good care - IF you can get it. And, that's the problem, too many Americans are not receiving this wonderful care of which he speaks. And, he knows it, too. He doesn't care because his integrity is probably being bought & sold right this very moment.
Oh, yea, last week, I "picked" on an old lady for complaining about the Roberts' decision. I was at the doctors. My son was with me. This woman pitched a fit. I asked her if she was paying cash or if Medicare was footing the doc's bill. Long story short, Uncle Sam was paying, & damn it she was entitled to it. Damn it, if you pay into a system, you've earned the right to use it. It's not a free ride. I told her I was relieved not having to worry about the donut hole either. I am fairly quiet, & have never been one to speak up like I have been lately. My son said I was polite, but on fire.
Didn't mean to ramble on here. Sorry about that.
TBF
(32,086 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)POOR people do not fucking count
atreides1
(16,091 posts)Do the Republicans have access to a private shopping mall, called Dumb Fucks R Us? Because these clowns running for office are so stupid it hurts...
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)a statement regarding the incidence and mortality rates of prostate and breast cancer in Erie County, underlining their serious nature and the fact that people still suffer from these diseases. Former-Erie County Executive Chris Collins recently stated in an interview, People now dont die from prostate cancer, breast cancer and some of the other things.[1]
All types of cancer, including prostate and breast cancer, have significant mortality rates associated with them. During 2005-2009, Erie County saw an annual average of 826 cases of female breast cancer, with an average of 176 deaths per year. For prostate cancer in the same period, the annual average was 930 cases, with an average of 103 deaths per year.
These numbers represent the sad reality that, despite advances in cancer treatments, people still die from these types of cancers. It is imperative that people not only be aware of the potential risks from all types of cancers but get appropriately screened and checked as recommended by your doctor for breast and prostate cancer.
http://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/cancer/registry/vol1/v1cerie.htm
kwassa
(23,340 posts)This is similar to Bachman's fantasies about US history.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)are the people that vote for people like that.
Geoff R. Casavant
(2,381 posts)The article interprets him to mean, "no one ever dies from breast or prostate cancer," when what he obviously means is, more people are surviving these cancers than used to survive decades ago. In that respect, he is correct.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)GodlessBiker
(6,314 posts)marybourg
(12,634 posts)Geoff R. Casavant
(2,381 posts)The words he uses are subject to two interpretations. To me, it's clear he meant to say one thing, but the rest of the article tries to debunk what says assuming he meant something else entirely.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)to advanced, albeit more expensive, treatments. He just didn't articulate it very well.
Just my opinion, of course. You're free to believe that the man believes that absolutely no one ever dies of cancer. But I think that's very unlikely.
I suppose someone could just ask him to clarify.
Response to Geoff R. Casavant (Reply #10)
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GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Obamacare should be repealed.
tanyev
(42,601 posts)Obamacare should be repealed, thereby earning all the ridicule he's received, even if partially misinterpreted.
Geoff R. Casavant
(2,381 posts)He remains an asshat, just for a different reason.
jumptheshadow
(3,269 posts)He can't seem to put two sentences together without stepping in a knee-deep pile of feces.
>>Still, the focus once again returns to Collins and his penchant for remarks that attract widespread attention. When he was hinting about running for governor in 2009, he compared Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver to Hitler and the anti-Christ - later acknowledging it was a poor attempt at humor.
He again gained attention in 2010 when it was reported that he suggested a woman acquaintance could find a seat during the State of the State address in exchange for a lap dance.<<
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/politics/article933937.ece
Nice guy! Or maybe he just vocalizes what he's really thinking, and what he's thinking is nasty and dumb as a box of bricks.
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)lots of people will die from lots of ailments.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)God damn you, Collins, you sorry son of a bitch. Republicans will say anything. I wish there was some way to make blood vessels in their heads pop when they said things like this. That sorry piece of shit doesn't deserve to live another second.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)They, like Hitler, repeat lie after lie after lie. They know that if the uneducated, non-critical thinking public hear the lie over and over again they will start to believe it. And, unfortunately, the vulnerable, often highly-religious do. After all they are conditioned to believe anything, no matter how illogical or immoral it may be, that emanates from a preacher's mouth. So insert Republican politician into the role of the preacher and, voila, you have immediate belief in total bullshit.
longship
(40,416 posts)E.G., HuldaClark N.D. (Not a Doctor), is a cancer quack who claimed that all cancer could be cured by treating for a liver fluke. (If her treatments work, it's a fluke.)
She died in 2009, of... wait for it... Of cancer. Those who still support her apparently claim that her death was a fluke. And, of course, her fans are still selling her quack cures, which is what all these cancer quacks are about.
I don't believe in Hell, but I think that if Hell exists there will be a central extraordinarily horrible place for people like Hulda Clark.
Demonaut
(8,924 posts)republicans are idiots
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Who knew?
bowens43
(16,064 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)The rest have left the party, or are thinking of doing so.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)I guess we can all start smoking as there is no risk.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)Allen West?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)cancer patients die. Why are we bothering to treat them when they are such a drag on my wallet?"
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)He'll be glad to know he isn't dead.
marybourg
(12,634 posts)Mayberry Machiavelli
(21,096 posts)I mean, really.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Some days, it just doesn't seem worth it, does it.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)So, candidate Collins is either a misinformed dim wit, or a liar. Time will, tell, but I'm going with the LIAR.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, he is.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)obviously people *do* die of those cancers.
But far more are surviving today than would have 20 years ago.
And that requires treatment.
Which costs money.
From a purely economic standpoint we'd be better off if people just got sick and died rather than getting better but requiring long term care.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)But it is unbelievably expensive. Without a system that equitably distributes health care resources only the wealthy will have access to the best care. These assholes know full well that their "plan", which ends up with each of us on our own with a shitty health care savings account, will deny all but the 1% access to state of the art treatment.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)fires all the firemen,who will extinguish their pants on fire?
CBHagman
(16,987 posts)Also, it pains me to see someone as ignorant as Collins infesting Western New York.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Geezus, where do they find such idiots?
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Yes, more people live through those illnesses than would have done, say, twenty years ago.
But also no because A) people do still die from those illnesses and B) other nations manage a roughly similar survival rate without such an enormous cost.
Javaman
(62,533 posts)indypaul
(949 posts)EARLY DETECTION is the best form of death prevention. Despite the
discomfort of a digital examination they can work to ones benefit.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Oops, my bad. She can't talk to him, or anyone else, because she died in her 50s from breast cancer.
Idiot.......
Paula Sims
(877 posts)You would have been 45 this year had it not been for the breast cancer that took you from us when you were 42. I still miss you dearly. . .
Ignore this idiot. And if you cross paths with him, slug him for me and many others.
Kteachums
(331 posts)I have breast cancer and am struggling with it now. Eight years ago my young daughter was diagnosed with breast cancer while she was pregnant with my young grandson. She survived and so did he but, I had to watch her go through chemo while he was in the womb. After the baby was born she became friends with other cancer patients that were young and going through the same experience as her. One of her young friends did not make it. Yes, there are good stories but, there are many sad ones. Cancer is not curable, yet. The medicines that cure cancer kill in other ways. They kill cells, weaken bones, cause heart failure. My father died with cancer over 30 years ago. There have been many advances made since his death but, there is no cure-all for this disease.
I keep wishing I will wake up tomorrow and someone will have found a cure. I wouldn't have to worry about my daughter (38 years old). She is well but, the medicine given eight years ago during chemo is known to cause heart problems in older life.
The cancer that seems to run in my family is not the hereditary type. They ran all the tests they currently have and cannot find it as hereditary.
I was diagnosed in February with breast cancer. I have been through a lymphectomy, radiation, and now, I am taking arimidex (a pill) which I will be on for the next five years. I did not have to do chemotherapy because a new test called the Oncotype Dx Test showed that my cancer had a low rate of recurrence if treated with radiation and (arimidex).