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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 08:55 PM Sep 2016

Greek anger at Turkey border treaty remarks

Source: BBC

Greece has reacted angrily after Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan appeared to question a treaty that set borders between the two countries.

Mr Erdogan said the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne was a defeat for Turkey as it "gave away" islands to Greece.

Greek Defence Minister Panos Kammenos warned Turkey not to pursue "dangerous paths".

Tensions over a disputed Aegean islet in 1996 brought Greece and Turkey to the brink of war.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37525650?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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Greek anger at Turkey border treaty remarks (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 OP
Boot Turkey out of NATO awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #1
Amazingly NATO doesn't have a method for expelling a member who attacks another member ripcord Sep 2016 #2
Wow awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #3
The Cyprus Grimelle Oct 2016 #6
Nothing distracts moron voters more from authoritarian dictators than a trumped up, quasi-patriotic Feeling the Bern Sep 2016 #4
Interesting that he refers to the 1923 treaty. FigTree Oct 2016 #5
Thanks. Great post. Grimelle Oct 2016 #7
turkey has a bunch of problems on another border and don't think greece can afford to get fries with dembotoz Oct 2016 #8

ripcord

(5,507 posts)
2. Amazingly NATO doesn't have a method for expelling a member who attacks another member
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:52 PM
Sep 2016

it doesn't have a method for expelling anyone. Greece and Turkey have both gone at it before, I believe it was over Cyprus.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
3. Wow
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 10:00 PM
Sep 2016

I would have thought they would have planned for such an occasion, especially with Germany's recent (at the time NATO was formed) history of invading their neighbors.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
4. Nothing distracts moron voters more from authoritarian dictators than a trumped up, quasi-patriotic
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:16 PM
Sep 2016

border dispute. Just look at China.

FigTree

(347 posts)
5. Interesting that he refers to the 1923 treaty.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 03:03 PM
Oct 2016

That particular treaty confirmed Italian sovereignty. It was based on Turkey's cession of its right to Italy in 1920, hoping to enforce its claim over the islands (how that would be logical is a mystery to me). Anyways, it was in 1946, in the wake of WW2, where Turkey didn't particularly shine with its opposition to the nazis' delirium. Tried to be "neutral", and declared war with Germany in... 1945! That pretty much kicked Turkey off the talk table in 1946 and the sovereignty was transferred to Greece in 1947.
Guess the little man has a hard time making a case for being wronged after WW2. So, in trump's fashion, he goes back to whatever/wherever/whenever his position is not that obviously weak.

dembotoz

(16,826 posts)
8. turkey has a bunch of problems on another border and don't think greece can afford to get fries with
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 12:18 AM
Oct 2016

their big mac right now so saber rattling does not serve either.


lets hope the leadership on both sides is brighter than trump

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