FBI: 'No Indication' That Washington State Mall Shooting Was 'Terrorist Act'

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo

The FBI said Saturday morning that there is "no evidence" that a mass shooting that killed five at a mall north of Seattle on Friday has any connection to terrorism.

"We have no indication this was a terrorism act," an assistant special agent in the FBI's Seattle office said at a Saturday press conference, as reported by ABC News. "There is no evidence to support that."

Authorities are still looking for the gunman who killed five in a mass shooting at a mall north of Seattle. Police described the shooter as a Hispanic man wearing black and armed with a rifle, according to the Associated Press.

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[still_one]

1. It is a form of terrorism. The only question is what inspired it

[uppityperson]

3. ++++

[underahedgerow]

17. Terrorism is technically considered to be politically related. I'm betting this was a rejected

boyfriend wanna-be sort of thing.

It's a spree killing, domestic assault, mass murder type of thing. Not terroristic in nature.

[uppityperson]

2. Here's the shooter, checking out the mall then returning with a rifle to kill

[still_one]

4. and I don't think the characterization as a Latino is fair to say the least. It could fit

a lot of demographics

[uppityperson]

6. It is difficult to tell from the photos, but there were eyewitnesses too.

At this point, I'm not speculating. I hope they figure it out soon.

[still_one]

9. I agree, I hope they catch him quickly

[Lulu KC]

10. Exactly what I was thinking

He could be many, many things.

[underahedgerow]

18. Agreed, he appears more Baltic type, Bulgarian, Albanian, etc.

Tough to say with the grainy footage, but not atypical latino features. I could be totally wrong, however.

[C Moon]

21. Yeah. He doesn't look Latino to me.

[name not needed]

24. Agreed. We should blame white people for this for as long as possible.

[still_one]

27. Excuse me, what are you inferring? Did you even read what I wrote?

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[pandr32]

11. He looks young

...like no older than early 20s.
Horrible for the folks in the Mt. Vernon/Burlington area. It is a nice little mall next to a factory outlet center with I-5 running right by it. Last place in the world you would expect trouble. It is a farming valley.

[groundloop]

5. OK, not terrorism.... so call it what it is - GUN VIOLENCE

[niyad]

7. rampant, uncontrolled gun violence

[EL34x4]

12. Domestic violence.

I'd place money that one of the five victims was an ex-girlfriend. The other four were innocent bystanders. He scoped the place out, saw she was there and went back to his car for his rifle.

I'd also bet he's dead by now, suicide.

[Initech]

8. Just another day in gun country.

[oberliner]

13. Hispanic?

What are they basing that characterization on?

[KT2000]

15. probably eye witness accounts n/t

[LuckyLib]

16. Which mean nothing -- identifying ethnicity is difficult.

[Igel]

25. Except when you're looking for somebody, you go with the best description you have.

If he's Syrian, fine, he's not Latino, that can be cleared up when he's nabbed. If he's "Baltic" (which oddly seems to be in the Balkans, but no matter, it's just a question of geography, and geography is also difficult).

But if people who saw him think he's Latino, others who see him might think, "Yeah, that could be him."

Of course, a much longer description would be more accurate, but wouldn't fit in the 140-character reading attention span many people have these days.

[oberliner]

19. How is an eye witness able to determine if a person is Hispanic?

That seems a little far fetched.

[KT2000]

14. and some here say

that it is silly to be fearful of people carrying weapons into stores in open carry states. You bet this is terrorism - something open carry losers are doing to people who want to live a civil life. How do we tell if someone is there to shoot up the place.

[oberliner]

20. Agreed

This is definitely terrorism. It seems insane to say that a shooting in a mall is not a terrorist act.

[groundloop]

29. Well, technically, terrorists have a political agenda... this guy probably didn't

Apparently he was just a vile bastard with a gun. But anyway, that distinction certainly doesn't matter to those who were killed or wounded, nor to their loved ones.

[C Moon]

22. Those are fairly clear photos. Hopefully, someone will recognize him, and come forward. nt

[Yo_Mama]

30. Arcan Ceftin - they caught him.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/man-20-in-custody-after-fatal-shooting-of-5-people-at-mall-outside-seattle/ar-BBwAiIQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

A 20-year-old man was taken into custody on Saturday night in connection with a shooting that killed five people on Friday at a mall north of Seattle, the authorities said.
...
On his Facebook page, Mr. Cetin listed his hometown as Adana, Turkey. Officials said he was a legal permanent resident of the United States. He graduated last year from Oak Harbor High School and listed himself on Facebook as a bagger at the Whidbey Island Commissary.

Also reported by a former classmate that he was sexist and grabbed women sexually.

Not Hispanic, obviously.

[mainer]

23. He was reportedly shouting a woman's name again and again.

Sounds like a spurned suitor out to get revenge.

[NWCorona]

26. That's what came to my mind as well.

[Cryptoad]

28. sounds like somebody

got punked by a Hard Headed Women.

[obamanut2012]

31. It was an act of violence against women

He has a history of sexually harassing and demeaning his female schoolmates. He targeted young woman at the Macy's cosmetics counter.

It will be be spun differently, though, as violence against women usually is.

[Baclava]

32. wow - I just saw that