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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:32 AM Sep 2016

Obama Administration Considers Arming Syrian Kurds Against ISIS

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is weighing a military plan to directly arm Syrian Kurdish fighters combating the Islamic State, a major policy shift that could speed up the offensive against the terrorist group but also sharply escalate tensions between Turkey and the United States.

The plan has been under discussion by the National Security Council staff at a moment when President Obama has directed aides to examine all proposals that could accelerate the fight against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL. Mr. Obama has told aides that he wants an offensive well underway before he leaves office that is aimed at routing the Islamic State from Raqqa, the group’s de facto capital in northern Syria.

Deciding whether to arm the Syrian Kurds is a difficult decision for Mr. Obama, who is caught in the middle trying to balance the territorial and political ambitions of Turkey and the Syrian Kurds, two warring American allies that Washington needs to combat the Islamic insurgency.

Directly providing weapons for the first time to the Syrian Kurds, whom American commanders view as their most effective ground partner against the Islamic State, would help build momentum for the assault on Raqqa. But arming them would also aggravate Mr. Obama’s already tense relations with Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The United States and Turkey sharply disagree over Syria’s Kurdish militias, which Turkey sees as its main enemy in Syria.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/world/middleeast/obama-syria-kurds-isis-turkey-military-commandos.html

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Javaman

(62,531 posts)
3. I think with the arming of the Kurds...
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:36 AM
Sep 2016

Obama is preparing for the worst with Turkey.

Given Turkey's recent history.

lark

(23,121 posts)
10. Could be a crazy move?
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:05 PM
Sep 2016

WE NEED Turkey and they will definitely retaliate against us if we arm their worst enemies, the Kurds in Syria. Hope Obama can find something else they need more than they hate the Kurds and give it to them, otherwise this could go very badly for us,

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
9. Germany provided weapons earlier in the year
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
Sep 2016

Also, Russia has armed Iraqi Kurds. Lots of purchasing from independent arms dealers too. I'd also assume they liberated some weapons after the fall of Sadam Hussein.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
6. Bad idea imo as whatever they are given could just as easily be
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:05 AM
Sep 2016

captured and then used by ISIS.
If the US wants to provide support there are better ways such as providing food, medical care and education because those are thing ISIS is not likely to really provide to the majority of people.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
8. The only way to really stop them is for the US, Russia and the other major world powers
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
Sep 2016

to pull their heads out of their ass and get together and stop ISIS but giving arms to the people in the region shouldnt be on the menu.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
13. Well if they used their military a good place to start might be with a full embargo
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 01:54 PM
Sep 2016

around all the areas ISIS currently holds so as to prevent the flow of new personal and materials to them.
Thats not something any of the superpowers can do on their own and they would have to combine their efforts.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
16. Kinda I guess but this isnt because of their race or their religion its
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:14 PM
Sep 2016

because they are murdering assholes who dont care about the people they are hurting and they need to be stopped before they hurt many more people and to stop them you need to cut the flow of weapons and personal to them.
If the varies superpowers can do that then the local governments might just get the breathing room they need to get back on their feet.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
18. Ya but this also isn't exactly like Trumps wall either as what he is proposing is a supposed to
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:18 PM
Sep 2016

be permanent which is just not feasible but something temporary can hopefully be done to cut the flow to ISIL but only if multiple superpowers work together.

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