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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:30 AM Sep 2016

Wanted: Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28 year old male, is being sought in connection with the Chelsea bombing

Source: NYPD

Wanted: Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28 year old male, is being sought in connection with the Chelsea bombing.
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Wanted: Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28 year old male, is being sought in connection with the Chelsea bombing (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2016 OP
For so many reasons... PearliePoo2 Sep 2016 #1
Many reasons? JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #109
Damnit! vdogg Sep 2016 #2
++ ellenrr Sep 2016 #5
Been out of the woodwork for some time now! nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2016 #18
This guy is who is he is The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #35
What is this supposed to mean? Separation Sep 2016 #36
I was hoping the suspect was not Muslim/Arab obviously vdogg Sep 2016 #77
Just curious: Who were you hoping the suspect WOULD be? Coventina Sep 2016 #78
I didn't want any particular group to be responsible vdogg Sep 2016 #83
Like during the DC Sniper thing, christx30 Sep 2016 #97
Not the same thing and you know it. vdogg Sep 2016 #98
+1 Marr Sep 2016 #91
*That's* your concern? That people might reasonably consider this man's religious background? Marr Sep 2016 #90
If that's all you got out of this and my subsequent statement vdogg Sep 2016 #93
New York bombing: Ahmad Khan Rahami IDed as suspect MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #3
And at this very minute Chump is looking for his phone that Kellyann has hidden PearliePoo2 Sep 2016 #4
Just got one of those leftynyc Sep 2016 #6
Chump is going to be shrieking on his twitter. PearliePoo2 Sep 2016 #7
Why do you think this helps Trump? Democat Sep 2016 #9
Because when people are polled, they say: PearliePoo2 Sep 2016 #14
HRC has conceded the issue of terrorism. Snellius Sep 2016 #23
That "wimp" killed Bin Laden. JTFrog Sep 2016 #55
Pretty sure that was SealTeam6 under the direction on Pres Obama... EX500rider Sep 2016 #72
Pretty sure she was instrumental in making that happen. nt JTFrog Sep 2016 #79
How much did Hillary Clinton have to do with the killing of Osama Bin Laden? Snellius Sep 2016 #82
Republicans in general & Trump in particular sell FEAR. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #25
Several reasons democrattotheend Sep 2016 #29
There's proof of the contrary RAFisher Sep 2016 #32
The Republican already spammed 'over excited' tweets last night & showed everyone how unfit he is. Sunlei Sep 2016 #73
With crazy people like this running around Democat Sep 2016 #8
Yeah, some posters on DU will certainly miss the TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #12
I thought we have one? GummyBearz Sep 2016 #41
Does anyone know when he immigrated from Afganistan? crazylikafox Sep 2016 #56
He maybe have arrived during Bush? Democat Sep 2016 #59
I had the same thought. crazylikafox Sep 2016 #61
I so hope it was during Bush years. It would make everything better GummyBearz Sep 2016 #80
probably born here or a baby. His parents immigrated here & own a chicken restaurant. Lived in Sunlei Sep 2016 #89
NYT said the chicken restaurant was since 2002 when he would have been 14. karynnj Sep 2016 #110
Yep get the red out Sep 2016 #63
I just got an alert on my phone democrattotheend Sep 2016 #10
As long as the US keeps looking for wars to fight cpwm17 Sep 2016 #11
What a load of horsehit. Assholes abound, and if you are willing msanthrope Sep 2016 #24
+1 King_David Sep 2016 #26
We didn't have the current problems with Muslims blowing up crap cpwm17 Sep 2016 #28
If they weren't using one excuse to kill, they would use another Democat Sep 2016 #64
What's our excuse for murdering so many Muslims? cpwm17 Sep 2016 #66
What is THEIR excuse for murdering so many muslims? smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #99
The Soviet Union had a problem with Afghanistan loyalsister Sep 2016 #115
Why would you offer justifications for such attacks, that the terrorists themselves haven't cited? Marr Sep 2016 #94
The Pudding is Proven! bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #13
I will wait to see the "evidence" before I assume that the FBI is the truth-sayer on this one. ellenrr Sep 2016 #15
The speed with which this is unfolding is actually a testament to how well we're doing alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #16
Good points True Dough Sep 2016 #30
Great points Separation Sep 2016 #51
Well, that's how this guy got identified leftynyc Sep 2016 #57
True, but not as much as GB. Separation Sep 2016 #60
My thoughts exactly. mountain grammy Sep 2016 #70
Exactly. alarimer Sep 2016 #84
Any theories as to a possible motive? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #17
What motive could this guy have? AngryAmish Sep 2016 #19
What message are these bombers sending? Vote Trump. (But wake up, HRC) Snellius Sep 2016 #20
Wow Rustyeye77 Sep 2016 #21
And rarely is the question asked... Grins Sep 2016 #22
I could honestly not care less why christx30 Sep 2016 #33
Not to mention the 1993 WTC bombing. Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #38
Before 9-11 there was a lot of talk among those that paid attention to our immoral foreign policy cpwm17 Sep 2016 #62
Yep. romanic Sep 2016 #100
Something's not right C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #27
I was thinking the same thing. Remember the Reichstag fire. "Inside" job? George II Sep 2016 #43
Are you implying the current administration is responsible for this? GummyBearz Sep 2016 #81
Not at all. There's just some puzzling aspects. C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #108
where did you get that from? George II Sep 2016 #112
Incompetent bomber is incompetent....most obvious answer... EX500rider Sep 2016 #111
An event was delayed causing fewer people to be out. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #107
The FBI may be hunting down Ahmad Khan Rahami right now but ... Snake Plissken Sep 2016 #31
Yes, that's very comforting. Thanks. nt BootinUp Sep 2016 #69
Manhattan bombing suspect is driving a 2003 Blue Honda Civic with NJ plate D63EYB. MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #34
And a lot of us here now sound like idiots Ron Obvious Sep 2016 #37
Yep. "It's April 15th! Must be tax protestors!" Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #39
This thread is pretty amazing ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #40
Ha! I wish I could rec your comment. Coventina Sep 2016 #48
Excellent! Separation Sep 2016 #54
Yep. Marr Sep 2016 #95
I keep reminding people that Timothy McVeigh was a native born WHITE AMERICAN! George II Sep 2016 #42
Repeatedly reminding people about the Oklahoma City attack that was over 21 years ago Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #44
If you missed my point no sense trying to explain it. George II Sep 2016 #45
OK. You go back to reminding people about Timothy McVeigh (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2016 #46
Not sure you had a point...so yes 20+ years ago a bombing was done by.. EX500rider Sep 2016 #75
There was no point to be missed. n/t MicaelS Sep 2016 #114
And then are they supposed to King you, or something? Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #47
So bold. Ace Rothstein Sep 2016 #49
You should play the lottery with those odds. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #53
Which doesn't negate anything The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #58
Thank goodness you still have Timmy to hang your hat on. Throd Sep 2016 #85
Thank you. 9/11: "Never forget!"; Oklahoma City: "C'mon! That was 20 years ago!" n/t JustinL Sep 2016 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Sep 2016 #96
West Point Military Academy in NY is on lockdown after suspicious car enters base MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #50
Rutgers is investigating a suspicious package B2G Sep 2016 #52
I sincerely hope that he is not detained snort Sep 2016 #65
They just reported his fingerprints were found BootinUp Sep 2016 #67
finger prints, several flip phones with call records on them, a car with several family members in Sunlei Sep 2016 #76
They found him. He's in custody now. christx30 Sep 2016 #87
Found sleeping in his car. What an end for 30 hour 'spree' that could have been much worse. Sunlei Sep 2016 #88
I couldn't agree more. The actions of the authorities left nothing to be desired. christx30 Sep 2016 #92
He is also an American citizen still_one Sep 2016 #68
Linden NJ (Union Cnty) Active shooter with 2 Police Officer a shot. 500 East Elizabeth Ave. MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #71
Linden NJ Active Shooter 500 East Elizabeth Ave 1 perp in custody MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #74
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #101
You sign up on DU to tell us you've "had it" with DU? Huh. uppityperson Sep 2016 #102
You might wanna edit your list. Throd Sep 2016 #103
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #105
Why the hell would you not vote because of this??? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #104
That was a troll DesertRat Sep 2016 #106
Captured Alive OnlinePoker Sep 2016 #113
What an idiot. I feel sorry for anyone who was injured in this attack, but I also feel sorry for... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #116

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
35. This guy is who is he is
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:30 AM
Sep 2016

You can't change that. Whenever something like this happens, you get people coming out of the woodwork. If he was a white male Christian, people who think white male Christians are the bane of existence would come out of the woodwork too. See! White guy! See! Muslim guy!

There's plenty of woodwork to come out from for everyone, because on a planet with 7+ billion people, you can find at least one person of any ideology that will do something good or bad. Then it depends on what your own personal definition of good or bad is, and you justify or rationalize, or can't justify or rationalize, what happens if you like or dislike whatever it is that happened.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
36. What is this supposed to mean?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:32 AM
Sep 2016

It (to me anyways) sounds like you were hoping the suspect would have blond hair blue eyes and wearing a Trump2016 T shirt.

It is a fact, that there is a segment of radicalized Muslims who are at war with the West. To deny it, deflect, or make excuses is just plain silly.

When the news first came out there were several posts hoping that it was a trump supporter trying to move public opinion. What the hell is the matter with some people?!

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
77. I was hoping the suspect was not Muslim/Arab obviously
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:24 AM
Sep 2016

Because all it does is plays into Trump's hands and further marginalizes an already marginalized minority. Now all the Trumpsters will be banging the "Muslim bad" drum even louder and this time people may actually fall for it. Until now, Trump has been fringe. I fear that his hate is about to go far more mainstream.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
78. Just curious: Who were you hoping the suspect WOULD be?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:37 AM
Sep 2016

You've told us who you didn't want it to be.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
83. I didn't want any particular group to be responsible
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

And you guys are reading WAAAYYYY too much into my statement. Being black, whenever I see a crime reported on local news I often hope, reflexively, that it's not a black guy who did it. I do this not because I want any particular ethnic group to be responsible, I just don't want us to be. I know the inevitable racism and prejudice that will be displayed on Facebook and other online sources towards blacks in general, as it always is with such events, and I'm just sick of it. I kinda view this incident in the same light. Racists and xenophobes use events like this to denigrate entire races and religions. It is fuel to their fire. Me hoping not to provide them additional fuel is not wrong, and I would have thought my reasoning was readily apparent in my previous statements.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
97. Like during the DC Sniper thing,
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Sep 2016

Before they identified the suspect, I was just saying "Please don't let it be a Hispanic guy. Please, no Hispanics."
I felt bad. I just didn't want everyone looking at me like that. So I know where you're coming from.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
98. Not the same thing and you know it.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

Stop being facetious and stop deliberately taking things out of context. FFS, I feel like I've fallen into a black hole and came out at Freerepuplic. Wtf has happened to DU?

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
90. *That's* your concern? That people might reasonably consider this man's religious background?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:10 PM
Sep 2016

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
93. If that's all you got out of this and my subsequent statement
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:14 PM
Sep 2016

There is no point in having a discussion. Try reading further down thread then get back to me.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
3. New York bombing: Ahmad Khan Rahami IDed as suspect
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:40 AM
Sep 2016
New York bombing: Ahmad Khan Rahami IDed as suspect

New York officials have identified a suspect wanted for questioning over Saturday's blast in the Chelsea area of the city.

The man has been identified as Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28, a naturalised US citizen from Afghanistan.

The New York Police Department (NYPD) has released a photograph.

The explosion injured 29 people. Both the detonated bomb, and a device found nearby, were shrapnel-filled pressure cookers, according to US media.


PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
4. And at this very minute Chump is looking for his phone that Kellyann has hidden
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:44 AM
Sep 2016

You KNOW it's coming.
fuck

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
7. Chump is going to be shrieking on his twitter.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:57 AM
Sep 2016

Stoking the fear. He'll see this as a "gift" of sorts.
His sickening, "I told you so" is all lined up on his thumb tweets.
fuck, this couldn't come at a worse time.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
9. Why do you think this helps Trump?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:59 AM
Sep 2016

Is there any proof of that?

Why would Americans want a crazy reality show president rather than a smart strong one with experience in dealing with terrorism?

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
14. Because when people are polled, they say:
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:08 AM
Sep 2016

They trust Trump more than Clinton on terrorism issues. He's going to get "tough" he says and a lot of people are buying it.
Doesn't make any sense to me but anyone voting for Trump doesn't make sense to me either.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
23. HRC has conceded the issue of terrorism.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:37 AM
Sep 2016

And she's supposed to be hawkish. This is not a policy issue for Americans. It's a gut reaction, stupid as it is. And if Trump knows anything he knows how to speak to the stupid. But so far this has been HRC's greatest weakness. The "wimp factor" is almost always what determines who loses.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
55. That "wimp" killed Bin Laden.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:06 AM
Sep 2016

What the fuck has Trump ever done but run his mouth and insult our military and vets?

FFS

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
82. How much did Hillary Clinton have to do with the killing of Osama Bin Laden?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:51 AM
Sep 2016

How much did Hillary Clinton have to do with the killing of Osama Bin Laden? Is it true that she was pretty much alone (among key principals) in pushing for this?

"Apparently, Hilary Clinton alone in Obama's cabinet aggressively pushed for the mission as all others were opposed. Vice President Biden and Defense Secretary Robert Gates felt the raid had too much risk."

https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-Hillary-Clinton-have-to-do-with-the-killing-of-Osama-Bin-Laden-Is-it-true-that-she-was-pretty-much-alone-among-key-principals-in-pushing-for-this

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
29. Several reasons
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:06 AM
Sep 2016

First, it makes some people willing to take a second look at his proposal to ban Muslim immigration and what not.

Second, when voters vote based on fear of terrorism or other national security threats they usually vote Republican.

Third, even though Clinton is lightyears more qualified to handle terrorism and foreign policy, I am afraid that if people are voting based on terrorism and national security, some voters are unfortunately less likely to want to put a woman in charge, as f*cked up as that is.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
32. There's proof of the contrary
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:16 AM
Sep 2016

Clinton is trusted more on terrorism than Trump 50%-41%. Among likely voters is closer but still Clinton is trusted more 48%-45%

Washington Post poll from 9/11/2016:
http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1181a12016Election.pdf

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
73. The Republican already spammed 'over excited' tweets last night & showed everyone how unfit he is.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:12 AM
Sep 2016

again. Rumps constant juvenile smack-talk on twitter doesn't help any Republican.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
12. Yeah, some posters on DU will certainly miss the
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:07 AM
Sep 2016

first part of your sentence. No surprise.

I absolutely agree with you. If Hillary is elected, these terrorist incidents will be handled in a calm manner.

We're just lucky this fanatic was actually too stupid to kill anyone.

crazylikafox

(2,758 posts)
56. Does anyone know when he immigrated from Afganistan?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Sep 2016

I haven't seen that date in the news coverage. I'm assuming he came as a child, but don't know that. Not that the date would matter to the Trump crazies. Even if he was 5 months old when he came here.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
59. He maybe have arrived during Bush?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:13 AM
Sep 2016

If it was under Clinton or Obama, it will be all over the news. If there is no mention of when he came, it was under Bush.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
89. probably born here or a baby. His parents immigrated here & own a chicken restaurant. Lived in
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:10 PM
Sep 2016

apartment above the family restaurant.

He screwed up his entire families life, their successful 'American dream' family business, what a dumb shit.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
110. NYT said the chicken restaurant was since 2002 when he would have been 14.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:25 PM
Sep 2016

One would assume the family had to have been here a while before they could buy and open it.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. What a load of horsehit. Assholes abound, and if you are willing
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:39 AM
Sep 2016

To detonate bombs in residential neighborhoods then you don't need a justification for killing human beings... His cause isn't noble, it's just fucked up and he's using some jihadist fantasy as an excuse.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
28. We didn't have the current problems with Muslims blowing up crap
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:00 AM
Sep 2016

in the US before the US started blowing up crap in the ME or before we so aggressively supported those that do the same.

A lot of Americans are assholes also, since so many Americans have no problem supporting our racist foreign policy and the constant blowing up of crap.

There will always be assholes everywhere, which will frequently provoke blow-back. We can't go around treating much of the world like shit and not expect some negative consequences. We're not special in this world.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
64. If they weren't using one excuse to kill, they would use another
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:23 AM
Sep 2016

These are not people worth defending or making excuses for.

They want to kill people and they find a reason.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
66. What's our excuse for murdering so many Muslims?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:36 AM
Sep 2016

In the 20th Century, Westerners were worse war makers than Muslims. What has changed, or has it really changed as much as you think?:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/12/eye-opening-graphic-map-of-muslim-countries-that-the-u-s-and-israel-have-bombed/

This “three-decade war for domination of the Middle East” becomes apparent when we consider how many Muslim countries the peace-loving United States and her “stalwart ally” Israel have bombed:...

Under Barack Obama, the U.S. is currently bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya. According to some reports (see here and here), we can add Iran to this ever-expanding list. [Update: An Informed Comment reader named Shannon pointed out that in fact the United States bombed Iran in 1988 during Operating Praying Mantis, an act that “cannot be justified” according to the International Court of Justice.]

Thanks to American arms and funding, our “stalwart ally” Israel has bombed every single one of its neighbors, including Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has also bombed Tunisia and Iraq (how many times can Americans and Israelis bomb this country?).

The total number of Muslim countries that America and Israel have bombed comes to fourteen: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Iran, Sudan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Tunisia.

Add to this the fact that Saudi Arabia is one Muslim country that really does live up to its negative stereotype. You know who arms them and supports their brutality: the USA. The US is now directly supporting Saudi Arabia's slaughter in Yemen. It was also the US that helped spread Saudi Arabia's conservative version of Islam.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
99. What is THEIR excuse for murdering so many muslims?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:01 PM
Sep 2016

Most of the victims of Islamic terrorism are actually muslims.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
115. The Soviet Union had a problem with Afghanistan
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:59 PM
Sep 2016

and we provided Afghanistan with weapons to fight a losing war that leveled their country for our benefit. They won the cold war for us by running the USSR out of money.

After that, we did not provide the resources for schools and infrastructure we promised in Afghanistan and the children grew up educated in fundamentalist schools, hearing about our betrayal. Why wouldn't they hate us? Their fathers uncles, grandfathers who might have been positive role models were dead, so someone else stepped in.

These things happened.They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game." - Charlie Wilson

And here we have either not learned anything or we keep perpetuating our screw up on purpose. It's hard to tell which.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
94. Why would you offer justifications for such attacks, that the terrorists themselves haven't cited?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:17 PM
Sep 2016

They're very blunt about why they do these things. They claim religious motivations, cite specific verses, etc. And the response is essentially, "they don't know what they're talking about, let me tell you what they're really thinking..."

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
13. The Pudding is Proven!
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:08 AM
Sep 2016

Islamophobia grows their terrorist recruitment

as it helps Trump's xenophobic platform

Perfect alignment of 2 entirely opposing sides

with no apparent connection

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
15. I will wait to see the "evidence" before I assume that the FBI is the truth-sayer on this one.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:11 AM
Sep 2016

I am thinking of the numerous times the FBI has entrapped someone.
The time they took a person who was cognitively impaired and entrapped him.
and many more.

It might turn out to be a correct lead, but I am withholding leaping on the band-wagon.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. The speed with which this is unfolding is actually a testament to how well we're doing
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:13 AM
Sep 2016

Two bombs found prior to explosion. One bomb explodes with no deaths. Suspect already ID'd in less than 24 hours and five other apprehended based on a vehicle description?

That's pretty GOOD anti-terrorism activity, you ask me. In a big, free country with minimal disruption to people's lives? Somebody explain to me where the catastrophe is here.

True Dough

(17,306 posts)
30. Good points
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:12 AM
Sep 2016

And I've yet to see it portrayed that way in the media. That wouldn't be helpful to Drumpf's exploitation of terrorist acts, which he badly wants us to believe are rampant and currently beyond our control.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
51. Great points
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:58 AM
Sep 2016

I was self torturing myself and landed on fox while this happened, (I'll switch between networks) and there was this republican "terror expert". The reason I'm assuming he is a republican is because he was appointed during the G'dub years.

Anywho, he was saying that it was high time that we start running our streets like Great Britain does, with cameras everywhere! I had to do a split take! I always s thought that republicans are small government and that was the job of the "nasty D's", to have big .gov and be intrusive.

For one it's a horrible idea to be abused, I guess that's the R's new thing now. Security for sake of liberty. It took the FBI what, 24 hours to get a lead on this guy?

No thank you republicans. The democrats in office are keeping us plenty safe, and I'm starting to get weird nazi vibes from the republicans especially with trump.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
57. Well, that's how this guy got identified
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:08 AM
Sep 2016

NY DOES have cameras on every corner and many businesses have them also.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
60. True, but not as much as GB.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:15 AM
Sep 2016

In the financial district there are cameras everywhere. There also may be some on some corners, but it's mostly gonna be private cameras of businesses. You can't scratch your ass in GB without somebody watching you. They also have those nightmarish speed cameras...ugh!

The point I was trying to make was, that I think we have just about the right level, maybe a skosche over as far as a nanny state and he was still identified in 24 hours'ish.

I'm just worried what his next plan is now that he knows he has been identified. I hope it's just a 9mm in the T spot with no further destruction by him.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
70. My thoughts exactly.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:59 AM
Sep 2016

Sounds like "we got this." People are doing their jobs.

But, wait. Let's gin it up, raise the fear level, and Trump's numbers go up. Oh America

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
84. Exactly.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:35 PM
Sep 2016

They system worked as it should, without excessive disruptions to anyone's life in the search for answers. And no panic either, on the part of residents in the area. We cannot possibly eliminate all risk, and people are going to have to accept that.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
20. What message are these bombers sending? Vote Trump. (But wake up, HRC)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:25 AM
Sep 2016

It's amazing how stupid most of Trump's yahoos are. They fall right into the trap set by the very enemies they are trying to combat. But at the same time, HRC has got to be tougher on this and not concede the issue entirely to her opponent or she will lose. This is not a policy issue with most Americans. This is Trump's strongest card.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
33. I could honestly not care less why
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:19 AM
Sep 2016

they hate us. 9/11 was done before Iraq, Syria, ISIS, ect. Why did they hate us back then? Over 2800 people died that day for absolutely no reason. There is a strain of fanatical Islam that is simply intolerant of anyone that is not a Muslim. Or isn't the right kind of Muslim. Remember the biggest loss of life is the 1400 year old war before Sunni and Shia. That one is never going to stop.
And even if we nailed down a reason, why should we have to change a damn thing? Normal groups are able to talk about their differences without flying airplanes into buildings, or stabbing a bunch of random strangers in a mall.
So the question becomes: What are you willing to give up to get them to stop hating us in the west? A large part of what they don't like is that we are Infidels. We don't follow their faith. Are you willing to convert? Are you willing to allow the gays in your life to be hung, or thrown off buildings, like they do in Saudi Arabia and Iran ("In Iran we do not have this phenomenon&quot ?
Would you be OK with seeing womens rights curtailed?
They hate us for a lot of reasons. And some of those reasons are perfectly OK. If the choice is between being loved by fanatics or letting my vote and drive, I'd rather be hated by the fanatics.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
38. Not to mention the 1993 WTC bombing.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:38 AM
Sep 2016

They hate Hollywood, they hate women's equality, they hate gay rights, and they hate mini skirts and bikinis. Therefore Death to America.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
62. Before 9-11 there was a lot of talk among those that paid attention to our immoral foreign policy
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:18 AM
Sep 2016

and war making that it was inevitable that we would get hit by a major terrorist attack, out of revenge. In fact, in a magazine that dealt with US foreign policy that I used to get, I received an issue sent just days before 9-11 warning that a major attack was inevitable.

What we can do is control our own actions (at least theoretically, since Washington DC is so corrupt it's hard to change), from there, things will improve.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
100. Yep.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:04 PM
Sep 2016

So sick of everything being blamed on the West and the US. It's true that American foriehn policy played a part in today's madness, but it would be naive to say radical Islam wouldn't have come to fruition wirhout the meddling of the West.

Western society didn't tell Muslims that they had to conquer the world and kill infidels or fight amongsts sects of the religion to see who were the rightful followers.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
27. Something's not right
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:57 AM
Sep 2016

Those bombs were placed where they'd do the least damage and garner maximum press coverage. You'd find 'actual' targets in just a block in any direction. This is either the world's dumbest bomber or something's not adding up? Who benefits most from this odd strategy?

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
108. Not at all. There's just some puzzling aspects.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 05:45 PM
Sep 2016

If anything it's reminiscent of good old republican ratfcking.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
107. An event was delayed causing fewer people to be out.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 05:21 PM
Sep 2016

And, thankfully, bomber was dumb as shit and couldn't get more bombs to go off.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
31. The FBI may be hunting down Ahmad Khan Rahami right now but ...
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:13 AM
Sep 2016

you'll be relieved to know he can still legally buy firearms and as much ammo as he can carry.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
34. Manhattan bombing suspect is driving a 2003 Blue Honda Civic with NJ plate D63EYB.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:29 AM
Sep 2016
#BREAKING #USA #NewYork - #Manhattan bombing suspect is driving a 2003 Blue Honda Civic with NJ plate D63EYB.
https://twitter.com/TerrorEvents/status/777860946970677248


[font color="black" size="28" face="face"]D63EYB[/font]
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
37. And a lot of us here now sound like idiots
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:32 AM
Sep 2016

Many here were desperate, even convinced, that we could lay this at the feet of Trump supporters before the facts where known so shat many are now heavily emotionally invested into that theory and will no doubt be posting conspiracy theories so as to still blame Trump or the alt-right You can be assured this will be quoted all over the right-wing blogosphere to paint us all as loons.

This is why speculation in the absence of evidence is a bad idea. Don't become so attached to a theory that you can't change your mind when the evidence comes in.

How many times does have to happen? Remember the Boston marathon bombing a few years ago? Read some of those threads back now and cringe if you dare.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
39. Yep. "It's April 15th! Must be tax protestors!"
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:40 AM
Sep 2016

Jihadism is by far the safest theory these days when seemingly random bombs go off and mass murders are committed.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
40. This thread is pretty amazing
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

A lot of anger about how Trumpkins are going to react and what Trump is going to do and not a fuck given that this asshole tried to kill people. Kill your fellow Americans in one of the most liberal cities in the US where Secretary Clinton will win overwhelmingly.

I'm sorry the fantasy that it was some alt-right Milo lover who spends his days posting Pepe memes and harassing Anita Sarkeesian on Twitter didn't come true, but the law of averages on how these things play out was not really in that favor.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
48. Ha! I wish I could rec your comment.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:54 AM
Sep 2016

Basically it boils down to: Rats! The suspect isn't who we wanted it to be! *pout*

I wonder how many of these pouters live or work in NYC?

Separation

(1,975 posts)
54. Excellent!
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:05 AM
Sep 2016

There is a post up thread clutching their pearls that islamaphobia will now be a problem.

It was almost as if they were disappointed that the perp wasn't wearing a trump tshirt!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
44. Repeatedly reminding people about the Oklahoma City attack that was over 21 years ago
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:49 AM
Sep 2016

is going to achieve what, precisely? The reaction that Jihadists aren't all that bad because Timothy McVeigh was a bad guy too?

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
75. Not sure you had a point...so yes 20+ years ago a bombing was done by..
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:20 AM
Sep 2016

....somebody who wasn't a Islamic radical.....however lately not so much.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
47. And then are they supposed to King you, or something?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:53 AM
Sep 2016

So the fuck what? How does that absolve anyone of anything today?

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
58. Which doesn't negate anything
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:09 AM
Sep 2016

McVeigh was a native born white American. This guy isn't. Yes, anyone on this planet can do anything. It's not just white guys, it's not just Arab guys, it's not just black guys, it's not just men, it's not just Americans, it's not just the Chinese, it's not just big or small city folk, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Anyone can do anything.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
85. Thank goodness you still have Timmy to hang your hat on.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

The Texas University bell tower shooter was white as well.

Response to JustinL (Reply #86)

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
50. West Point Military Academy in NY is on lockdown after suspicious car enters base
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:55 AM
Sep 2016
BREAKING: West Point Military Academy in NY is on lockdown after suspicious car enters base after managing to get past the security barrier
https://twitter.com/News_Executive/status/777868140554416130
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
52. Rutgers is investigating a suspicious package
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 09:58 AM
Sep 2016

in one of the parking decks.

It's gonna be a long day.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
67. They just reported his fingerprints were found
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

on the unexploded device. Brazen? Stupid? Eitherway he's a dangerous bastard.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
76. finger prints, several flip phones with call records on them, a car with several family members in
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:22 AM
Sep 2016

custody now. (The SUV? looked like it was full of black plastic bags) All authorities need now is to find his car and him. He's dangerous now while 'on the run' ,probably armed and angry most of the 'bombs' failed.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
87. They found him. He's in custody now.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:51 PM
Sep 2016

Someone saw him sleeping in his car and called the cops. Cops got there, guy got out and opened fire. Suspect was injured, but, happily, they captured him alive. So they are going to turn his life upside down, inside out to find out every detail about him.
"Says here you cheated on a 6th grade math test. What the fuck, dude?"

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
88. Found sleeping in his car. What an end for 30 hour 'spree' that could have been much worse.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:01 PM
Sep 2016

With this 'case' I think our authorities did an excellent job.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
92. I couldn't agree more. The actions of the authorities left nothing to be desired.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:13 PM
Sep 2016

Bombs 3
Injuries ~24
Deaths *****0******
Suspect found within 30 hours. Captured alive. Able to divulge every bit of his plan and all accomplices.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
71. Linden NJ (Union Cnty) Active shooter with 2 Police Officer a shot. 500 East Elizabeth Ave.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:00 AM
Sep 2016
BREAKING: Linden NJ (Union Cnty) Active shooter with 2 Police Officer a shot. 500 East Elizabeth Ave. One Suspect in custody.
https://twitter.com/News_Executive/status/777884717400154112

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
74. Linden NJ Active Shooter 500 East Elizabeth Ave 1 perp in custody
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:15 AM
Sep 2016
Linden NJ Active Shooter 500 East Elizabeth Ave 1 perp in custody and they just found a suspicious package req Bomb Sq & K-9 to the scene
https://twitter.com/SBANYPD/status/777886830821830657

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Response to Throd (Reply #103)

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
104. Why the hell would you not vote because of this???
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:20 PM
Sep 2016

Is Hillary Clinton a moonbat or even appealing to the moonbat left???

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
116. What an idiot. I feel sorry for anyone who was injured in this attack, but I also feel sorry for...
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 08:01 PM
Sep 2016

the Muslim community who will suffer even more as a consequence of this idiot. If Trump had his way, this dickwad's family would be dispatched as well. I mean, was this an effort to help Trump? I ask that because a comment on NPR today leads me to believe that Trump would be great for ISIS recruitment, and they wouldn't have a problem with him being in charge of the most powerful military on the planet.

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