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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:26 PM Sep 2016

Drugmakers fought state opioid limits amid crisis

Source: Associated Press

Drugmakers fought state opioid limits amid crisis
Sep 18, 12:22 AM EDT
By GEOFF MULVIHILL, LIZ ESSLEY WHYTE and BEN WIEDER
Associated Press and Center for Public Integrity

The makers of prescription painkillers have adopted a 50-state strategy that includes hundreds of lobbyists and millions in campaign contributions to help kill or weaken measures aimed at stemming the tide of prescription opioids, the drugs at the heart of a crisis that has cost 165,000 Americans their lives and pushed countless more to crippling addiction.

The drugmakers vow they're combating the addiction epidemic, but The Associated Press and the Center for Public Integrity found that they often employ a statehouse playbook of delay and defend that includes funding advocacy groups that use the veneer of independence to fight limits on their drugs, such as OxyContin, Vicodin and fentanyl, the narcotic linked to Prince's death.

The industry and its allies spent more than $880 million nationwide on lobbying and campaign contributions from 2006 through 2015 - more than 200 times what those advocating for stricter policies spent and eight times more than the influential gun lobby recorded for similar activities during that same period, the AP and Center for Public Integrity found.

The drugmakers and allied advocacy groups - such as the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network - also employed an annual average of 1,350 lobbyists in state capitals from Olympia to Tallahassee during that span, when opioids' addictive nature came under increasing scrutiny.




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Drugmakers fought state opioid limits amid crisis (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2016 OP
bastards... dhill926 Sep 2016 #1
Ray and Bev Sackler sigpooie Sep 2016 #3
And meanwhile, I had major abdominal surgery and had to beg and plead for painkillers..... Coventina Sep 2016 #2
I agree Andy823 Sep 2016 #4
I know I would, GWC58 Sep 2016 #6
Me too! jzola Sep 2016 #7
They fought against making Sudafed prescription only TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #5
Probably because it would be stupid to do so Major Nikon Sep 2016 #9
Personally I enjoy taking allergy medication that costs 3x as much and works half as well. LeftyMom Sep 2016 #12
and it's lowered meth use and manufacture rates, right? TheSarcastinator Sep 2016 #17
Someone should fight the bastards Major Nikon Sep 2016 #8
I've done several market research studies to give feedback on moonscape Sep 2016 #10
Speaking as a recovering addict to narcotic painkillers, I feel two ways about this. Sand Rat Expat Sep 2016 #11
The Kratom issue kyburbonkid Sep 2016 #13
Kratom is a new one to me. We do know marijuana and it's beneficial properties. YOHABLO Sep 2016 #16
Good. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #14
Look if I am in excruciating pain, give me the pain killers and keep them coming. YOHABLO Sep 2016 #15
Good Egnever Sep 2016 #18

sigpooie

(106 posts)
3. Ray and Bev Sackler
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:45 PM
Sep 2016

5 people in my family and 21 friends over the past 50 years have died from these drugmakers. We need to put a face on this industry so we know who we are dealing with or who is trying to kill all of us. Raymond and Beverly Sackler
[http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexmorrell/2015/07/01/the-oxycontin-clan-the-14-billion-newcomer-to-forbes-2015-list-of-richest-u-s-families/#9b3b4c2c0e2f]

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
2. And meanwhile, I had major abdominal surgery and had to beg and plead for painkillers.....
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:40 PM
Sep 2016

Can't there be a happy medium somewhere?

Where people in pain aren't treated like junkies and criminals?

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. I agree
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:00 PM
Sep 2016

I read that Colorado has less over doses from opiates now than before pot was legalized. I live in Washington state, which also has legalized pot, pot but have not see the stats on overdoes here. I pot were legal, less people would be overdosing because a lot of people would be using pot to help them with their pain along with prescription drugs. Now I know that for those who have major pain issues, pot isn't going to replace the pain meds they get now, but it will help.



TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
5. They fought against making Sudafed prescription only
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:21 PM
Sep 2016

Even though it could dramatically cut down on the manufacture of methamphetamine. It's all about profits.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. Probably because it would be stupid to do so
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:10 PM
Sep 2016

The reason you make drugs prescription only is because there's a significant health risk to using them without being under a doctor's care, not because someone might use the substance to make something entirely different.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
12. Personally I enjoy taking allergy medication that costs 3x as much and works half as well.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:00 AM
Sep 2016

Tweakers don't seem to be any less sucked up, and I can't breathe through my nose for four months straight.

Thanks, drug warriors.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
17. and it's lowered meth use and manufacture rates, right?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Sep 2016

Oh wait, meth use is up drastically since the change of availability for Sudafed and other previously OTC cold meds....just another idiotic, failed policy of the prohibitionist dipshits who run the drug war.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidwhelan/2012/05/23/losing-the-war-on-meth-and-sudafed-at-the-same-time/#11f45466eb8b

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Someone should fight the bastards
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:04 PM
Sep 2016

First of all, calling drug addiction an "epidemic" is fucking stupid to begin with. People use opioids for a variety of reasons, some of which does involve abuse. For even those who abuse these drugs, very few are addicts contrary to what the government anti-drug efforts would have everyone believe. Some people are addicts, not because they are abusing these classes of drugs, but rather because they are dealing with chronic pain. Meanwhile the vast majority of overdoses which result in hospitalizations or death are directly related to mixing opioids with other drugs. So rather than deal with that problem directly, the government would rather restrict everyone's access and distribution whether legit or not or whether it's an actual social problem or not while simultaneously warehousing in prison those are involved in the black market that failed government policy virtually guarantees.

The so-called "epidemic" isn't the actual problem. It's a symptom of the actual problem which is a failed drug policy at just about every level. Rather than listen to people who actually have a handle on the problem and know how to address the societal ills of drugs, policymakers instead listen to dipshit do-gooders and law enforcement most (but not all) who are on the right wing and are deathly afraid someone else might get high or laid while they are getting neither and have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
10. I've done several market research studies to give feedback on
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:34 PM
Sep 2016

this issue, presumably funded by drug mfgs, but one was a govt entity. It's surely a hot issue.

I take narcotic pain relievers, and have for many years. I've not increased my dosage, but do now have cancer and while I keep them to a minimum, it's likely my need will be increasing in the future.

Some people who rely on them for pain control are having issues getting refills. One cancer patient on a forum I frequent had his pharmacist refuse a prescription until it could get 'sorted out' after the weekend. He was in bloody agony. His doctor was furious.

Everyone is jumpy with these new regulations, and it's maddening to be a patient in need and because of abusers be treated like an addict.

Sand Rat Expat

(290 posts)
11. Speaking as a recovering addict to narcotic painkillers, I feel two ways about this.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:57 PM
Sep 2016

TL;DR at the end for those not wishing to read a novel...

On the one hand, there's no doubt that Purdue lied and manipulated the data to back up their assertion that OxyContin was less addictive. And there's no doubt that the pharmaceutical industry as a whole is focused on profits over anything else. And I read somewhere just recently that 99% of physicians in the States over-prescribe narcotics or prescribe them for longer than is indicated.

I wound up addicted to oxycodone (and just about anything else I could get my hands on, though I never graduated to heroin, thankfully) because I had major issues with chronic back pain. However, because I was underinsured, I couldn't afford to get the problem properly diagnosed. My family doc, who'd known me since I was in my late teens, prescribed Percocet to help with the pain. Over seven years, the dose gradually went up, and then when I moved to Canada, I was suddenly cut off, because it's very difficult to obtain a prescription for those kinds of painkillers without a serious diagnosis.

Long story short, I did a lot of things I'm not proud of. I lied to my parents and my wife, inventing reasons to fly home to the States purely so I could visit my old doctor. I flew home three times in a six-month span at $300-$400 a pop, ostensibly to get records from an old job that couldn't be mailed because of security concerns. Then the truth came out, as it always eventually does.

My wife had divorced her first husband because he was an alcoholic, but he didn't acknowledge the problem and refused to get help. She swore to me, when she told me about it when we were dating, that she'd never go through that again. All the same, she stood by me, and this January will mark three years of sobriety for me.

Thanks to Canada's healthcare system, I was able to get help through a three-week outpatient program and weekly visits with addiction specialists, along with a prescription for a medication which controls cravings. I was also able to finally get a diagnosis: arthritis in the hips, which caused enough pain to make me unconsciously change my gait, which in turn screwed my back up royally. I was able to see a rheumatologist, and today the pain problem is under control without the need for narcotics.

I felt it necessary to explain that background before I got to the "on the other hand." On the other hand, no one ever forced me to seek or take those medications. No one forced me to lie in order to obtain them. The pharmaceutical industry isn't responsible for what happened to me. My mother was inclined to be angry at my doctor when she learned what was going on, but after I had gained some clarity, I told her, and she understands, that my doctor isn't at fault here. I lied to him, and I did so well enough that he believed me.

I feel great sympathy and, of course, empathy for those who wind up addicted to painkillers. I know what it's like to be in pain to the point where another minute of it will drive you insane, because you can't afford to get all the tests done to find out what the problem is. I know what it's like to need that next dose, just to have a little temporary peace. I know what it's like to suffer from withdrawal.

The worst pain, though, is when you gain some clarity and look back at the things you did and the things you said. No physical pain I've ever experienced can hold a candle to the guilt, shame, remorse, and self-loathing that you feel when you realize just what you did to yourself and those who love you.

But at the end of the day, I don't and can't blame anyone else for what happened to me. Looking back, I know now that the pain I felt wasn't so awful that I needed narcotics, but I'd convinced myself it was. But Purdue didn't put a gun to my head and a pill bottle in my hand. Neither did my doctor, or the healthcare system in the States. Every time I opened the pill bottle, I was making a choice to continue down a toxic path. Absolving addicts of the responsibility for their choices by blaming Big Pharma, doctors, or the healthcare system isn't going to solve the problem.

TL;DR - While it's true that Big Pharma lied and doctors over-prescribe, ultimately no one is forcing these medications down anyone's throat. Starting down the path of addiction is, a lot of the time, a choice. Staying on that path is also a choice. When faced with a choice, a person has a responsibility to make the right decision.

kyburbonkid

(251 posts)
13. The Kratom issue
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:22 AM
Sep 2016

Last edited Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:06 AM - Edit history (1)

The DEA on Sept 30th is going to put this herb on the list of schedule 1 illicit drug (right up there with Heroin, LSD, etc.. ie.. you go to federal prison if you have this in your possession). The Herb is called Kratom. It's an common herb used in Chinese medicine and can be found right now everywhere from Walmart (if you shop there) to your local gas station. Google *kratom*. Apparently a lot of people use it for pain relief because it's a non-opiate way of controlling chronic pain. It doesn't give you a high with no side effects but it is used as a herbal treatment for opiate addiction. There is no way in hell this should be a schedule 1 drug! Because of it's many health benefits and historical use in chinese medicine (+) vs incarceration, imprisonment (-), I'm with a small majority that Kratom should remain as is, a legal, over the counter, chinese herbal medicine. If you want to be sure, google "Kratom testimonials"

There is a petition to the whitehouse.gov that has exceeded 100,000 signatures. Lets hope this is not another herb tossed into the schedule 1 BS of your a criminal for trying alternative medicine.





 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
15. Look if I am in excruciating pain, give me the pain killers and keep them coming.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 04:23 PM
Sep 2016

I'll deal with addiction problem. I'm a big boy. I can't stand the f...ing docs and nurses in hospitals asking me to rate my damn pain from 1 to 10. Really? I'm in f...ing pain. You can get addicted to alcohol and caffeine as well. How many people die because of alcohol related circumstances? Legalize marijuana nation wide. Big Pharma doesn't want that to happen.

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