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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:29 PM Sep 2016

Trump Calls Former Defense Secretary Gates a 'Clown'

Source: MSN/NBC News

Donald Trump derided former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, calling the national security official a "clown" and a "mess."

The attacks came after Gates expressed concern about Trump's readiness to be commander-in-chief in a Friday op-ed in The Wall Street Journal. Gates, who served under both Republican and Democratic presidents, wrote that both Trump and Hillary Clinton "have a credibility problem in foreign affairs" before singling out the Republican nominee as "in a league of his own" and "beyond repair" on security issues.

"Mr. Trump has been cavalier about the use of nuclear weapons," Gates opined. "He has a record of insults to servicemen, their families and the military, which he called a 'disaster.' He has declared our senior military leaders 'reduced to rubble' and 'embarrassing our country' and has suggested that, if elected, he will purge them—an unprecedented and unconscionable threat. As of late, he appears to be rethinking some of these positions but he has yet to learn that when a president shoots off his mouth, there are no do-overs."

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"We had a clown today, an absolute clown, Robert Gates," Trump told a crowd. "He's supposed to be an expert. He's been there forever ... he goes out and he says negative things about me. I never met him. I never talked to him. Believe me, I am so much better at what he's doing than he is."

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-former-defense-secretary-gates-a-clown/ar-BBwjyn7



A man with god complex with the nuclear codes. We might as well start referring to him as Kim Jong Trump.
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Trump Calls Former Defense Secretary Gates a 'Clown' (Original Post) TomCADem Sep 2016 OP
A modern day Hitler Matthew28 Sep 2016 #1
What's his obsession with whether someone has met him or not when they badmouth him? BlueStater Sep 2016 #2
Read this. It explains a lot about him. underpants Sep 2016 #5
Always the statesman duncang Sep 2016 #3
Trump's responses to Gates (and everyone else who's questioned Trump) only proves Gates' point. bulloney Sep 2016 #24
It gets worse every day bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #4
Trump speak Botany Sep 2016 #6
More Trump speak: guillaumeb Sep 2016 #27
i read something about a month or so ago about what a really bad liar Trump is and Botany Sep 2016 #34
And, talking with sone Trump supporters, guillaumeb Sep 2016 #40
I do not remember Gates being a member of the clown car but I do remember Trump as a clown. Thinkingabout Sep 2016 #7
Keep talking without the prompter please.... Satch59 Sep 2016 #8
This was already posted in LBN PSPS Sep 2016 #9
Ummm cheri010353 Sep 2016 #10
Excellent point! 3catwoman3 Sep 2016 #25
Trump calling anyone a clown is amusing Gothmog Sep 2016 #11
We don't need a Namecaller in Chief C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #12
Remember when... NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #13
I think dRumf took a break from screaming and crying about Hillary calling his supporters names, Mc Mike Sep 2016 #23
What needs to happen cilla4progress Sep 2016 #14
To Trump everyone is a clown Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #15
This is classic projection Third Doctor Sep 2016 #16
yes!! ailsagirl Sep 2016 #33
Its boring already with Trump, criticize his sorry ass and you get it back 10 fold. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2016 #17
Donald has a habit of taking PatSeg Sep 2016 #18
That's what he does, he calls names. elleng Sep 2016 #19
But he never calls people names to their faces meow2u3 Sep 2016 #35
Trump needs to go. crim son Sep 2016 #20
a friend of tRUMP should take him away from the media, in fact all people. Why? downeastdaniel Sep 2016 #21
Who could ever have predicted that response? Major Nikon Sep 2016 #22
Pssst! Donald! That's not Gates. That's a mirror! nt Xipe Totec Sep 2016 #26
Unbelievable. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2016 #28
Gates was also critical of HRC. mobeau69 Sep 2016 #29
Trump is not capable of writing an OpEd for the WSJ, not without huge ghostwriting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #30
Yep, he's up there with Palin. mobeau69 Sep 2016 #31
Translated... ailsagirl Sep 2016 #32
It's easy to counter this coward. truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #36
He going cray-cray spamming tweets now, the green pepe spams along with him. I think pepe is him! Sunlei Sep 2016 #37
Earth to the Mango Mussolini roamer65 Sep 2016 #38
Well, Mr. Cheeto-man, it certainly liberalhistorian Sep 2016 #39
He does love to project sakabatou Sep 2016 #41

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
1. A modern day Hitler
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

Trump is dangerous as he thinks he can do what he wants and he has visions of grander.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
2. What's his obsession with whether someone has met him or not when they badmouth him?
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:35 PM
Sep 2016

I've never met him (and hope I never do) but I can still safely say that he's a scumbag.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
3. Always the statesman
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:36 PM
Sep 2016

Gates or anyone can listen to him and figure out he would not be able to keep his cool. And that not only has he already been causing problems, but would reek havoc with the U.S. status world wide.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
4. It gets worse every day
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:39 PM
Sep 2016

This is the guy who says he relies on advisers, but everyone who disagrees
with him is a 'clown', so he's a typical CEO surrounded by YES MEN until
the whole one-sided hubris drives the company into bankruptcy.

I have to think the GOP mainstream or what's left of it - Mitt may even
surface in October - will do all they can to save their country and
the world.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
34. i read something about a month or so ago about what a really bad liar Trump is and
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)

the writer interviewed psychologists and police detecives and they all said that
Trump has very easy "tells" for his lies ..... when somedody says "I am going to
tell you the truth" or "this is the real story" they knew the person was going to lie.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
40. And, talking with sone Trump supporters,
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 07:58 PM
Sep 2016

they will admit that he lies, but somehow they hope/assume that this time he is telling the truth. It is sad to hear, and their disappointment will be great.

cheri010353

(127 posts)
10. Ummm
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:50 PM
Sep 2016

Voters will, for the most part, be judging Trump in November without ever having met or talked to him.

3catwoman3

(24,003 posts)
25. Excellent point!
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:34 PM
Sep 2016

As is post #2 above, about being able to realize, simply by observation, that Trump is a complete jackass.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
12. We don't need a Namecaller in Chief
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:51 PM
Sep 2016

No one needs a Namecaller in Chief.
Go away Trump. And stay away.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
13. Remember when...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:51 PM
Sep 2016

--we expected a presidential candidate to observe the basic rules of decorum?
--calling someone names would be roundly criticized on all sides?
--the lack of even minimal knowledge of foreign policy, the Constitution, and how the Federal government works would be disqualifiers?

I do. Even George W. Bush...and the gods know I despised him...even HE didn't, as far as I know, call anyone names that sounded like they came from a schoolyard. Trump talks like a thug. His speech reminds me of Tony Soprano, except Tony was a nicer guy. Smarter, too.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
23. I think dRumf took a break from screaming and crying about Hillary calling his supporters names,
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:21 PM
Sep 2016

to call Gates some names.

Then right back to his hysterical complaints about his opponent's uncivil name-calling.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
14. What needs to happen
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:53 PM
Sep 2016

Is someone like Gates needs to absolutely lose it and go off on him on national TV. This equanimity is not going to cut it.

Farmgirl1961

(1,493 posts)
15. To Trump everyone is a clown
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:54 PM
Sep 2016

When the reality is -- he's the world's biggest clown. Problem is, he can say whatever the heck he wants and gets a free pass from the media. He's such a joke that people just expect him to say nonsense and they go back to their epic ranting of hating Hillary or calling her dishonest.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
17. Its boring already with Trump, criticize his sorry ass and you get it back 10 fold.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 07:14 PM
Sep 2016

this is a well known tactic.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
18. Donald has a habit of taking
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 07:29 PM
Sep 2016

any criticism directed at him and throwing it at someone else. When Hillary criticized his temperament, he turned around and said the same thing about her. "Clown" is a word that has been used over and over again to describe Trump and now he throws it at Robert Gates because Gates said something negative about him. That is like trying to hurt a skinny adversary by calling him "fat". His use of insults tends to be rather indiscriminate and very odd.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
35. But he never calls people names to their faces
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:53 PM
Sep 2016

He waits until their backs are turned, then he either hides behind his hired thugs brainwashed supporters or goes on the air to accuse them of his own numerous disturbed character failings.

The best way to shut him down is to tell him this: "If you have a problem with me, say it to my face first."

downeastdaniel

(497 posts)
21. a friend of tRUMP should take him away from the media, in fact all people. Why?
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

He's just too thin skinned to be with people...and there's no amount of compensation the would make him normal.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
29. Gates was also critical of HRC.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:48 PM
Sep 2016

The difference in their reactions to his piece says a hell of a lot about both of them.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
31. Yep, he's up there with Palin.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:11 PM
Sep 2016

"He's a mess, okay, he's a mess," Trump said of Gates. "Look what he gave us, look at the mess of all these people that have been there for so many years. Look what we have, look at the Middle East.
"We're in worse shape than we were 15 years ago by a factor of 10," Trump said. "Much more importantly, the lives that we lost, because we're dealing with incompetent people, we're dealing with stupid people. We're dealing with people like Robert Gates that don't have a clue and then when they leave office, they criticize everybody.

I can't believe the pukes gave us this moron.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
36. It's easy to counter this coward.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:03 PM
Sep 2016

Gates just has to remind everyone that trump has a six lane yellow stripe running down his bovine backside that doesn't scare terrorists at all. Everyone knows that trump was too scared to put on a pair of military boots and carry a gun for his country. He's a coward through and through. Nobody's scared of Trump except his own country, and we all know his greatest threat is causing nuclear winter for everyone because of his thin cowardly skin.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. He going cray-cray spamming tweets now, the green pepe spams along with him. I think pepe is him!
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:51 PM
Sep 2016
he tweeted a 'best wishes' to todays victims, wtf?.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
38. Earth to the Mango Mussolini
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:21 PM
Sep 2016

Pissing off 3 former CIA directors, Gates, Hayden and Morell, is not a good situation to put yourself into.

Just food for thought.

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
39. Well, Mr. Cheeto-man, it certainly
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:31 PM
Sep 2016

looks like you're taking projection to a whole new level, now, doesn't it?

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