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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:39 AM Sep 2016

New York bomb was 'act of terrorism', says Governor Cuomo

Source: BBC

A bomb that exploded in New York City was an act of terrorism, Governor Andrew Cuomo says, but no link to international groups has been found.

Mr Cuomo said significant damage had been caused and "we were lucky there were no fatalities". Saturday night's blast in Manhattan injured 29 people.

Some 1,000 extra security personnel are being deployed to NY transport hubs.

Mr Cuomo said: "Whoever placed these bombs - we will find them and they will be brought to justice."

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37402130



Did they ever catch whoever was behind the Central Park blast?

I ask because that involved the homemade explosive TATP, which is tricky to make, and previously used in the 2016 Brussels, 2015 Paris and 2005 London attacks.

Be interesting to find out what it was in this case.

Explosive identified in Central Park blast

Explosives linked to London bombings identified

Brussels attack: What is TATP, the 'Mother of Satan' explosive used by terrorists?

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New York bomb was 'act of terrorism', says Governor Cuomo (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 OP
Connected to the 5k race in NJ yesterday morning underpants Sep 2016 #1
What do public housing & blind have to do with Marines & running races? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #10
Nothing underpants Sep 2016 #13
Well, they are connected by time and space MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #14
a possible connection in type of target 6chars Sep 2016 #18
Thank god it wasn't worse... but kind of a weird attack nonetheless Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #2
Hallmark of the classic bomber (the coward). NutmegYankee Sep 2016 #3
As I speculated on another thread it wouldnt surprise me if it was actually a Trump supporter cstanleytech Sep 2016 #5
me either... especially since Trump seemed to "know" it was a bomb Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #9
Well to be fair it's pretty much a given that it was due to a bomb but who set it is cstanleytech Sep 2016 #12
another possibility is (more or less) self-radicalized Islamist extremists 6chars Sep 2016 #19
Possible but in general those types seem to favor hitting places where there is cstanleytech Sep 2016 #21
Color me surprised. 6chars Sep 2016 #23
It was in a construction dumpster in front of a site that has been... JHB Sep 2016 #7
throwing bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #16
I didn't mean "throw" literally... JHB Sep 2016 #17
Odd, I thought the real act of terrorism was the GOP choosing Trump as its candidate. nt cstanleytech Sep 2016 #4
I am looking for Faux News to attack him for saying an "act of terrorism" doc03 Sep 2016 #6
[i]Domestic [/i] terrorism Loge23 Sep 2016 #8
"homegrown kooks as likely suspects" anamandujano Sep 2016 #11
October Surprise conspiracy theory .... connect the dots bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #15
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wasn't involved in this... harrose Sep 2016 #20
NYC cops have cctv of multiple men moving large duffel bag between/at the two bomb locations MowCowWhoHow III Sep 2016 #22

underpants

(182,823 posts)
1. Connected to the 5k race in NJ yesterday morning
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

The explosion in Chelsea was across the street from public housing for the blind and vision impaired.

AFB

underpants

(182,823 posts)
13. Nothing
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:30 PM
Sep 2016

I meant it as two different statements. Turns out, from what I've seen since that post, they are claiming to 5K and Chelsea are not connected.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
14. Well, they are connected by time and space
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:48 PM
Sep 2016

Separated by less than 100 miles and less than 12 hours apart.

Bombings are sufficiently rare, that no connection at all between them strikes me as low probability.

If I was investigating, that alone would be enough for me to invest some resources into seeing if there are any additional connections.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
18. a possible connection in type of target
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:56 PM
Sep 2016

ISIS likes to sometimes kill the most vulnerable in the sickest way, so that explains targeting the blind.
Of course they also like to target US military.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
2. Thank god it wasn't worse... but kind of a weird attack nonetheless
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:46 AM
Sep 2016

kind of odd spot to bomb, if you're going to make a bomb

maybe the location was easy to plant something without being seen

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
3. Hallmark of the classic bomber (the coward).
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

The bomber wants to get away and not be hurt, which is better than the modern suicide bomber, who can be far more deadly.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
5. As I speculated on another thread it wouldnt surprise me if it was actually a Trump supporter
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:16 AM
Sep 2016

looking to sow fear and terror to goad people to vote for Trump since the GOP does have an extensive history of exploiting terrorist attacks for political gain.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
12. Well to be fair it's pretty much a given that it was due to a bomb but who set it is
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:08 PM
Sep 2016

the question and given the fact that there was few injuries I suspect the goal wasn't to cause harm but rather influence the election and the GOP does have a bad habit of exploiting things like this thus my speculation that it will end up being a Trump supporter.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
19. another possibility is (more or less) self-radicalized Islamist extremists
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:59 PM
Sep 2016

the use of the pressure cooker filled with nails is the exact technique used in the Boston Marathon bombing, and the terrorists (if I may call them that) in that case learned all about how to do it through ISIS' various media outreach and education efforts.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
21. Possible but in general those types seem to favor hitting places where there is
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:03 PM
Sep 2016

likely alot of people and yes i am aware of the one that went off where there was going to be a race but if as i suspect that this was done purely to try and goad people to for Trump then i am willing to bet that it was remote detonated.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
7. It was in a construction dumpster in front of a site that has been...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:05 PM
Sep 2016

...undergoing renovations for months. Who'd think twice about someone throwing some apparent junk in a dumpster?

JHB

(37,160 posts)
17. I didn't mean "throw" literally...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:34 PM
Sep 2016

...but in the sense of "throwing something out" when disposing of things.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
6. I am looking for Faux News to attack him for saying an "act of terrorism"
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:34 AM
Sep 2016

instead of a "Terrorist Act" and he should blame the Obama/Clinton administration.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
8. [i]Domestic [/i] terrorism
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:18 PM
Sep 2016

The Governor is dismissing the possibility of an international terrorist plot. Hate to say this, but he's probably right figuring that the known international terrorist acts are usually far more devastating and targeted to claim as many victims as possible.
So that leaves our own homegrown kooks as likely suspects.
Over the past week, police in Fort Pierce FL arrested the somewhat hapless arsonist whom torched a local mosque. For some reason, the media artfully avoided the suspects FB page endorsement of Herr Trump.
Certainly I am not suggesting a link between the arsonist and the NYC incident, but one has to ask themselves: which side of the American body politic is more prone to these acts?

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
11. "homegrown kooks as likely suspects"
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

I just wanted to emphasize your phrase. Any sort of violence like this, is probably a low life looking to help Trump with his scare tactics.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
15. October Surprise conspiracy theory .... connect the dots
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 02:44 PM
Sep 2016

1980: "The timing gave rise to an allegation that representatives of Reagan's presidential campaign had conspired with Iran to delay the release until after the election to thwart President Carter from pulling off an "October surprise"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

You've nailed it ... scare tactics, and it's not necessarily random

harrose

(380 posts)
20. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wasn't involved in this...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 05:19 PM
Sep 2016

... in an attempt to boost his ratings.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
22. NYC cops have cctv of multiple men moving large duffel bag between/at the two bomb locations
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 09:14 PM
Sep 2016
New York bombing: Investigators search for suspects, motive

New York (CNN)A day after a bombing injured 29 people in a Manhattan neighborhood, police are scouring the area for clues about who was responsible for the explosion and why it happened.

...

Surveillance video from Saturday shows a man dragging what appears to be a duffel bag with wheels near the site of the explosion on West 23rd street about 40 minutes before the blast, according to multiple local and federal law enforcement sources. Video shows the same man with what appears to be the same duffel bag on West 27th street about 10 minutes later, multiple law enforcement sources said.

In the video, the man leaves the duffel bag where police later found an unexploded pressure cooker. After he leaves, the video shows two men removing a white garbage bag believed to contain the pressure cooker from the duffel bag and leave it on the sidewalk, according to a senior law enforcement official and another source familiar with the video.

Investigators have not determined the relationship between the two men and the man dragging the duffel bag, the sources said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/18/us/new-york-explosion/index.html
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