Ryan Lochte Admits He ‘Over-Exaggerated’ Rio Robbery Story
Source: Huff Post
WASHINGTON ― Ryan Lochte on Saturday said he exaggerated a story about being robbed at gunpoint in Rio de Janeiro, speaking in his first televised interview since large portions of his initial account were debunked.
I over-exaggerated that story and if I never did that we wouldnt be in this mess, a newly brown-haired Lochte told Matt Lauer, a co-anchor of NBCs Today Show. It was my immature behavior.
Excerpts of the interview aired during NBC Nightly News on Saturday evening and then later in the evening during the networks Olympics coverage, but the full interview will appear Monday morning on the Today Show.
In a longer excerpt of the Lauer interview released later on Saturday evening, Lochte apologized profusely to the three swimmers out with him that night for returning to the United States and leaving them to face the consequences for his actions
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ryan-lochte-robbery-exaggerated_us_57b8cf31e4b03d513688d013?section=&&
Too little, and ...much too late.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)He has a future in politics
whistler162
(11,155 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,611 posts)marble falls
(57,182 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,429 posts)Retrograde
(10,153 posts)We were wondering why NBC was showing an interview of some dead-eyed twerp during their supposed Olympic coverage: we fast-forwarded through, hoping that NBC would get around to showing some actual, you know, Olympic coverage.
BumRushDaShow
(129,429 posts)finding what I wanted to see. Thankfully the closing ceremony is tonight and maybe I can stream some events later that I missed because they were not shown on any of the NBC-related channels when the bloviators took over the screen.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)With the NBC Sports app on Roku. I don't think I watched more than a minute outside of live events on NBC and NBCSN (basketball and soccer).
I think NBC also had a site where they streamed all the events
BumRushDaShow
(129,429 posts)using the NBC site. Glad I did! No commercials and it didn't have the hour delay of the broadcast TV version so I could go to bed earlier.
My sisters have been using Comcast On Demand to catch things they wanted to see.
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)It was great since there were no commercials.
Too bad they ended the broadcast when the party had just started.
They did a personal carnaval party for the Athletes at the stadium afterwards. I wonder how long it went for.
All I heard so far is that the athletes had a blast at the party.
BumRushDaShow
(129,429 posts)for quite awhile before the feed ended. I was cracking up! The camera kept trying to capture any "wardobe malfunctions"!
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)gordianot
(15,243 posts)This is the sort of shit that gets people killed.
KG
(28,752 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,807 posts)And Billy Bush is a lightweight.
Judi Lynn
(160,611 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)For what that is worth.
jcgoldie
(11,643 posts)Like a 12 year old who got caught shoplifting I thought he was going to cry. He said "over-exaggerated" like 15 times.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)was hard for me to watch because Lauer kept harassing him. He said he was sorry, he said he acted immaturely, let his team, etc., but Lauer kept at him and all he could do was keep repeating himself. The guy's a swimmer, not a public speaker. The piling on came rather close to bullying, I thought. I turned it off.
Sand Rat Expat
(290 posts)An apology and admission of bad behavior isn't enough. He must break down in tears before the whole nation and be utterly humiliated. That's how we do things in America when it comes to our athletes and entertainers. It's not like they're human beings with faults and foibles just like the rest of us. They must be perfect, and when we learn they're not, they must be punished!
Wilms
(26,795 posts)everything would have been cool. But no. He had to OVER-exaggerate. Therein was the problem.
FigTree
(347 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)claiming to be robbed when in fact no robbery took place at all.
appleannie1
(5,068 posts)a robbery, extortion or restitution. All he knows is that he had to give the guards money.
IMO he was so lame ass drunk he only remembers bits and pieces. That is not an excuse simply because I believe people do things when they are drunk that they would like to do sober only don't have the balls.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)With "All I know was that I wanted to get out of there." The guards, he said, were going to call the police.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just not the way he described it.
Someone pulled a gun on him and demanded money. That is a robbery, isn't it?
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)"sniper fire" and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"? Does anyone remember the US Hockey team destroying their rooms in Nagano and none of them owning up to it?
Lochte and the other swimmers were in fact held at gunpoint. That sounds like a robbery to me. Now that he's apologized, I hope he can continue to swim and make money doing it as long as he is competitive.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)In Brazil, that's apparently "negotiation" but what would it be called in US?
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Civil Asset Forfeiture
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)...as the translator spoke with one of the Brazilian main networks. The translator (a local DJ) said that Lochte and the other swimmers didn't want the security guard to call the police so they offered to pay for the damages. So they paid the $50 and the money was given to the store owner, who did not press charges because he had been paid.
In the interview, one of the security guards admited that he pulled the gun, and told the swimmers to get down, only after an angry Lochte came towards his direction (supposedly he had two swimmers detained and Lochte and another swimmer were leaving the property by foot until Lochte returned after seeing the other two with the one guard). The guard said he didn't understand English and that Lochte (and other swimmers) were bigger and taller than him, so he pulled out the gun.
The other guard saw what was happening and pulled his gun as well. The DJ offered to translate when he saw what was going on.
Either the translator did a shitty job and created more confusion between the guards and the swimmers or Lochte is lying.
The thing is that, so far, only Lochte has been caught lying. Well, sorry, let me correct myself. Not lying but exaggerating.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)and whose job was to provide security to a gas station.
They did their jobs dealing with a group of vandals. Those vandals paid for the damage they now admit they did to avoid having the police brought into the situation. The swimmers could have said no and the guards would have called the police. It wasn't like the guards threatened to kill them if they didn't pay for the damages, the way an actual robber would make a threat. The guards were actually giving the swimmers a break.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)justification to draw down on somebody. They were in the cab and not a threat so no need for drawing weapons. If you pull a gun on somebody and demand money, that's robbery license or not, unless you are contending he was licensed to commit armed robbery. And it absolutely was a threat to kill them. What do you think pointing a gun at someone is besides a threat of lethal force?
citood
(550 posts)"An argument ensued between the athletes and two armed gas station security staff, who displayed their weapons, ordered the athletes from their vehicle and demanded the athletes provide a monetary payment. Once the security officials received money from the athletes, the athletes were allowed to leave"
So matter of fact...like pointing a gun at somebody over 50 bucks is normal.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Meshuga
(6,182 posts)He asked the cab driver not to leave and for the swimmers to stay in the cab until the police arrived.
The problem was that the swimmers got out of the cab and tried to flee the scene.
The security guard (who didn't speak English) admitted that he and his partner drew guns but only after he felt threatened by the athletes demeanor. He claimed that the swimmers were bigger and intimidating.
The witness who served as translator for both the swimmers and security guard said that swimmers offered to pay for the damages.
The one guard who interviewed with Brazilian television also said that the Americans offered to pay for the damages.
So I am not so sure the account that the security guards pulled their guns to demand $50 is true.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)happened. USA Today reports that the swimmers never damaged the bathroom so they were held at gunpoint over a torn poster. Those guards tried to railroad these guys and Rio officials scammed 11 grand off one of them and they still intend to scam the same amount from Lochte. Even local lawyers are saying this could have been a robbery.
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)The USA today article is claiming that Rio Police (not the guards and witnesses) embellished the damages done by the swimmers. They are not claiming anything about the security guards involved in the incident but criticizing Rio de Janeiro's police for being too quick in their conclusion.
The security guards and the DJ who served as the translator between the guards and the swimmers both claim the $50 compensation was the idea of the swimmers, asking not to involve the police.
I agree with the local lawyers in the sense that the Rio police was too quick to make their own claims, and the Rio police looks stupid now that we know the vandalism was only limited to the one poster and the urination instead of soap dish and bathroom door. Also, the lawyers (and a Brazilian judge) said that the police was too quick in denying that it was a robbery. That does not mean that the local lawyers or the judge are claiming that it was a robbery.
I also agree with the local lawyers in that no crime was committed by the swimmers IF they did not lie to the authorities. Remember, we know that Lochte lied in his initial interview to Billy Bush but we don't know if he actually lied to the police.
One important thing to also note is that the USA Today article ignores what other key witnesses had to say about the incident, like the security guards themselves.
There are plenty of public sources (in Portuguese, from the Brazilian media) showing what at least one security guard and the mediator had to say. I'm not sure why the account from the security guard is omitted from the article.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)FWIW, when I posted earlier, I didn't post a link because I was on a tablet and it's next to impossible to copy and paste.
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Can you please address my response in post #80?
citood
(550 posts)But when I do, I feel my life is in danger.
"It wasn't like the guards threatened to kill them"
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Creative little narrative. One could imagine sincerity.
Lulu KC
(2,572 posts)The security guard called the police but the guys were gone by the time the police arrived. Rascals!
stopbush
(24,396 posts)They had the swimmers dead to rights if they ever needed to release the videos, so they had no problem letting them go before the police arrived.
Good point.
jcgoldie
(11,643 posts)It was not robbery and Lochte admitted that claiming such was a lie in his interview.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)the guard demanding money after pulling a gun on him.
jcgoldie
(11,643 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 21, 2016, 01:20 PM - Edit history (1)
"It's how you want to make it look like. Whether you call it a robbery, whether you call it extortion, or us paying just for the damages, like, we don't know," Lochte responded. "All we know is that there was a gun pointed in our direction, and we were demanded to give money."
According to the statement that his teammate Bentz gave authorities, a man who spoke English walked over and told the swimmers the guards were telling them to pay for the damage they caused, or else they would call the police.
Judi Lynn
(160,611 posts)Already exploited wildly, and feverishly, and reveled in for ages long ago.
I'm sure you could always get a crowd to launch into a new round of this if you tried it at a non-Democratic message board.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Troll ass, would be my guess.
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #52)
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Sand Rat Expat
(290 posts)He did something dumb and when questioned he lied and said he didn't do something dumb. Clearly this is an atrocity that can only be punished in the harshest way. He's the Hitler of pro swimming!
It's just the American public's reaction to bad behavior by someone rich and/or famous. They must be debased and brought low so the rest of us can feel a bit better about ourselves. No apology is sufficient, no restitution is acceptable. Only by groveling and begging for forgiveness can their sins be expiated, and then only grudgingly. After all, it's not as if any of us have ever done something dumb and then lied about it after the fact.
Every time an athlete, entertainer, or famous person says or does something dumb, it creates this firestorm of controversy. They're expected to be perfect, and when the public learns that they are actually imperfect human beings, then they must be punished. It's silly, but that's the way it is.
If I were Lochte, my response would be, "Yes, I did something dumb and then lied about it. I've sorted it out with the people directly affected by my behavior and they've agreed to move on. The rest of you, kindly fuck off."
Your points about "sniper fire" and "sexual relations" are well taken, too.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)Response to Skeeter Barnes (Reply #18)
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Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)I'm a recovering alcoholic and had to make amends with a lot of people so maybe I'm more reluctant to join the lynch mob because of that.
The seething anger that people have over this wanting to crucify the guy seems weird to me.
Lulu KC
(2,572 posts)I agree that the obsession we're having with him is weird. I don't usually pay attention to things like this but I can't turn away. He is embodying several different things that are plaguing us. Racism, sexism, ugly Americanism, spoiled bratism--but it is still mysteriously more interesting than it needs to be.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)None of the swimmers spent a second in a jail cell. Only one of them has paid any kind of a fine. They have all admitted that they vandalized the gas station. They all confirm that Lochte made up or embellished the story he first fed to the media.
Lochte's interview with Matt Lauer offers a full confession to making up the most-damning-towards-Rio parts of the lie he told. Remember when he said they had been robbed of $400? His only excuse is that he was an immature drunk...at age 32. And he tells Lauer he still wants to swim and wants to be a role model for kids. His apology is basically a plea to keep his "job" with a promise he'll do better in the future. Were he "mature" he would give the pandering for his privileged job a rest and say he needs to give this time for the chips to fall where they may.
Lynch mob? Hell, a noncelebrity in this country would have a hard time keeping their job at McD's if they had acted like and lied the way Lochte did.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)FWIW, my boss is director of a major government department in the city where I live. Shortly after starting the job, he was arrested for assaulting someone in a bar and got DUI on the way home. He's not white and got to keep his job, even though he should set a good example as supervisor of hundreds of employees. While I've been there, a number of my co workers have been arrested for things like DUI, leaving the scene and failure to appear and who knows what else I haven't heard about. None of them are white, either and they're still on the job. Some have gotten more than one DUI in the last two years. One got his second before he went to court for his first! None of them are white. All are still there, some of them supervising other employees. Apparently this privilege I hear so much about doesn't just extend to evil white people. It sure doesn't appear that it's as hard as you say it is to keep a job despite bad behavior. I'm personally glad to know they didn't lose their jobs. Even those of us that make mistakes, and make them again, are worthy of forgiveness.
Anyway, you really don't have to recount all the particulars of the incident to me. I've read the same reports you did. I'm just not all that upset over it, especially now that they are all home and Lochte apologized. Them being robbed at gunpoint and the $11,000 bribe Rio officials got bothers me more than anything else that happened. Hopefully that old man that was scalping tickets will be able to get out of that third world dungeon they are holding him in before he dies.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)So disgusted with this story. Yes he did something dumb but nothing compared to what phelps did twice. I hope lochte can recover because this is bullshit.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)about what happened. Some local lawyers are saying this could easily be called a robbery. The truth is starting to come out.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)You demanded that I post links. Where's yours? Try practicing what you preach.
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Which I was replying to you in an earlier post in this thread.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)and you didn't include a link. Isn't this irritating, having someone tell you what you can post?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)But I do know it's a overblown BS story. You'd think he got two DUIs or caught doing drugs or something.
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Claiming that the report states that the guards have been caught lying is false information.
Here is the link to the article with the full text:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/
Please include links of your source when you make such claims so people can read it for themselves instead of depending on your interpretation. Some even easily accepting it too.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)A USA TODAY Sports videographer who visited the bathroom Thursday found no damage to soap dispensers and mirrors and said none of those items appeared to be new. Some media accounts suggested the men had broken down a door, which USA TODAY Sports also did not observe.
Bentz said in his statement that he believes there are surveillance videos shot from different angles that have not been released. He also said he did not see anyone damage the bathroom or even enter it.
Of the videos available, including footage from a camera trained on the restroom doors, a review by USA TODAY Sports does not find any showing the swimmers going near the bathrooms. They are not seen entering or coming out of them on those recordings.
If it wasn't the gun waving guards that lied, it was the cops or other Rio officials. I suspect it was the guards that lied about the bathrooms hoping to increase their take from the swimmers.
They're crooks who stole from athletes *at gunpoint* at the Olympics and it certainly wasn't the first case of that happening during the games, either. They've ripped off US athletes for over $11,000.00 and they intend to scam more out of them. All for a torn poster.
If you are going to claim I'm posting false information, point it out. And don't try to browbeat me over what I post.
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)They are in Portuguese but you should be able to translate the page.
Account from the translator:
http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/olimpiadas/rio2016/noticia/2016/08/nadadores-pediram-para-que-policia-nao-fosse-chamada-diz-testemunha.html
Account from the security guard:
http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/olimpiadas/rio2016/noticia/2016/08/muito-alterados-diz-seguranca-que-abordou-nadadores-dos-eua-no-rio.html
Here is the link to the nightly news where the one guard spoke in the link above:
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)They've ripped off US athletes for over $11,000.00 and nine Australian athletes over $3,100 each. Bunch of goddamn crooks.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-rio-summer-olympics/australian-athletes-detained-rio-over-credentials-not-fault-official-n635291
"Where are your papers? Your papers are not in order. You come with me."
I wonder if they'll ever let that old man out of the dungeon. How much will his "fine" be?
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Not from he Rio police.
In other words, it seems you don't want to believe the account of the security guard and the translator because you claimed the Rio de Janeiro police lied. It doesn't make any sense.
The link you provided about the Australian delegation does not invalidate what the security guard and the witness from the gas station had to say.
Can't you see this? It's frustrating that you seem incapable of understanding and smear everything together as if it is all the same.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Ok, I'm done. You don't want to show what in the article supports your claim that the guards are crooks.
This is going in circles and I am wasting my time here. Not sure if you are messing with me because this makes not sense. If you are messing with me so I will write back then you got me. The joke is on me.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Your response does not support your original claim that the USA Today article says the guards lied.
Your belief that the USA Today article says that the guards lied is poor reading comprehension in your part. Therefore, you are spreading false information based on that erroneous comprehension of the text.
Read my post #80 and you will see my opinion on the article.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)crooks
Meshuga
(6,182 posts)Where in the article does it say that the guards lied?
Response to Meshuga (Reply #81)
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Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,213 posts)His major in college was sports management. He's also interested in appearing on Dancing With the Stars.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)One week late....using words like .."over exaggerated the story" instead of. "I lied and I am very sorry."
Fuck You...Asshole..
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)but he's nowhere near the level of completely-devoid-of-redeeming-qualities, evil asshole Shkreli is on.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)He's still trying to manipulate his way out of the mess he created.
Pathetic.
oasis
(49,406 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)For his actions.
I wonder how many times he's been drunk, behaved badly, then got away with it.
I would bet more than a few.
oasis
(49,406 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Eugene
(61,939 posts)Source: ABC News
By MICHAEL EDISON HAYDEN Aug 21, 2016, 12:56 PM ET
U.S. Olympic Committee CEO Scott Blackmun announced today that further action is coming in the case of star swimmer Ryan Lochte and his three teammates whose story of a robbery at gunpoint grabbed headlines around the world.
Blackmun at a daily media briefing gave no specifics on what possible disciplinary action may be taken, but he made no effort to hide his frustration with the matter, according to the Associated Press.
"They let down the other athletes; they let down Americans; and they let down our hosts in Rio," Blackmun said of Lochte, a 12-time medalist, and the other three swimmers. "We are going to have further action on this when we get back to the United States."
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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/us-olympic-ceo-promises-action-lochte-swimmers/story?id=41555100
oasis
(49,406 posts)he doesn't have the decency to say he lied about the whole incident. He should be tossed off the team and immediately begin his journey into obscurity.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Just wondering protocol
Anyone? Do they usually just take off like that?
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Person 2713
(3,263 posts)But I never heard the media mention it was unusual that he left the olympics before the closing
Initech
(100,100 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Bless his heart.
dkhbrit
(110 posts)Was when Lauer mentioned that this would probably badly affect any endorsements he might have had coming his way. His face dropped and he just said something like "yeah, I know, l'll have to live with that." It was a horrid response. Maybe if he had said it wasn't about the money or something like that he might have saved himself a little tiny bit, but no.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)As much has Brazil has done this is probably are harsher punishment for Lochte
no_hypocrisy
(46,180 posts)Lying about lying.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)Can another reality tv show be far behind?