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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,613 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:48 AM Aug 2016

Marion Barry's son dies of an overdose

Source: WTOP and WRC, DC TV channel 4

By Abigail Constantino August 14, 2016 6:09 am

WASHINGTON — Marion Christopher Barry, the son of former D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, has died of a drug overdose, NBC Washington reports. He was 36 years old. ... Cora Masters Barry, the former mayor’s widow, confirmed Marion Christopher Barry’s death to NBC Washington’s Tom Sherwood.

The younger Barry ran for his father’s council seat in Ward 8 in 2015. He was known as Christopher Barry for most of his life but his name appeared on the ballot as Marion C. Barry. He came in sixth place.

In 2015 Marion C. Barry pleaded guilty to charges incurred after an outburst at local bank. He tried to withdraw a large sum of money but his account was overdrawn. He was sentenced to 12 months probation.

Marion C. Barry has had encounters and arrests during his life. In 2014, he was jailed in D.C. for driving without a license. In 2013, he was charged in Virginia with driving under the influence and possession of marijuana. In 2011, he was charged with possession of marijuana and PCP.

Read more: http://wtop.com/dc/2016/08/marion-barrys-son-dies-overdose/



Eligible for LBN because Marion Barry was a nationally-known political figure whose own career took a hit when he was busted in a crack sting.
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Marion Barry's son dies of an overdose (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2016 OP
So damned sad get the red out Aug 2016 #1
Unfortunately drug addiction is part of the culture in some segments of society.... pipoman Aug 2016 #2
Anabolic Steroid Use and Abuse by Police Officers SecularMotion Aug 2016 #4
I have been wondering about this get the red out Aug 2016 #10
We are told in this thread that drug use is not the user's fault Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #18
That's certainly one possible inference out of many, many more. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #46
Drug addiction has infiltrated all segments of society. Chemisse Aug 2016 #5
Opiate Addiction has taken hold in NH and Ohio among other states garagedoor Aug 2016 #6
It is absolutely about culture.... pipoman Aug 2016 #14
It is get the red out Aug 2016 #7
In the genes Scarsdale Aug 2016 #16
No, a predisposition for addition is genetic. Igel Aug 2016 #32
What culture would that be and in what segment of society???? BronxBoy Aug 2016 #23
I don't have to pick my words carefully at all.. pipoman Aug 2016 #25
Sure yo do... BronxBoy Aug 2016 #27
You are the dog whisle pipoman Aug 2016 #33
Race Baiter....LOL BronxBoy Aug 2016 #35
Some pretend there is a racist behind every blade of grass. . pipoman Aug 2016 #37
You still havent answered my question BronxBoy Aug 2016 #38
Why would I...you're already proclaiming me what ever it is...oh yeah..a racist... pipoman Aug 2016 #40
Oh..and I answered your question in post 25.... pipoman Aug 2016 #41
Where'd ya go? Decided maybe you jumped to a false conclusion based on hatred rather than facts? pipoman Aug 2016 #45
I, for one, know what 'drug culture' means citood Aug 2016 #51
But the poster didn't say drug culture..... BronxBoy Aug 2016 #52
There you are again pretending I said something I didn't pipoman Aug 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author BronxBoy Aug 2016 #36
Marion and Effie Barry were separated and then divorced well before garagedoor Aug 2016 #28
Marion Barry (the father who was mayor of DC) majored in chemistry. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2016 #30
He was raised as the son of the crackhead. pipoman Aug 2016 #34
While all answers are responses, not all response are answers. Yours was a clever response. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #47
Why do you repeat yourself on every post? pipoman Aug 2016 #50
It's called Drug Culture Shankapotomus Aug 2016 #44
What " segments of society" are you suggesting? montana_hazeleyes Aug 2016 #31
You can see that poster coming a mile away... BronxBoy Aug 2016 #39
I am as clear in 25 as any English speaking person can be... pipoman Aug 2016 #43
No more, nor no less clear than responding to the question "what is the sum of 2+2?" LanternWaste Aug 2016 #48
Post 25 pipoman Aug 2016 #42
I think this is one of the most racist statements I have read on DU, in it's implication ... kwassa Aug 2016 #53
Oh really... then you should check yourself pipoman Aug 2016 #54
As long as the 'war on drugs' madokie Aug 2016 #3
plus 1 Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 #8
And then there's that personal responsibility issue. Trust Buster Aug 2016 #9
Some people are genetically.disposed towards addiction philosslayer Aug 2016 #11
I disagree. Marion Barry (the father) was the Mayor of Washington D.C. and had all the resources Trust Buster Aug 2016 #12
Your compassion is noted. philosslayer Aug 2016 #13
Blaming an addicts behavior on the government is NOT compassion. Trust Buster Aug 2016 #21
I agree. A lot of people that comment on addiction have no idea how powerful it is. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #15
Booze Scarsdale Aug 2016 #17
I became an alcoholic the first time I caught a buzz at 15. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #19
Some genetic predisposition does not mean that he was unable... TipTok Aug 2016 #20
I agree TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #22
It's still a choice... TipTok Aug 2016 #26
So, there is no free will? Freddie Stubbs Aug 2016 #49
Addiction is a real motherfucker. I've been there. May Barry finally know peace. Throd Aug 2016 #24
Congratulations for finding your way out of it. Warpy Aug 2016 #29
RIP bigwillq Aug 2016 #56

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
1. So damned sad
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:51 AM
Aug 2016

I don't know if our country will ever care to really take steps to help addicts. Our face the failure of the war on drugs.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
4. Anabolic Steroid Use and Abuse by Police Officers
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:30 AM
Aug 2016
An officer crashes a police car and seriously injures an innocent bystander. The investigation reveals that the officer was acting erratically, had bloodshot eyes, and slurred his speech. The officer’s supervisor is called, and the decision is made to test for alcohol consumption. The test results determine that the officer was in fact intoxicated. Disciplinary action is taken, resulting in the officer’s termination for drinking alcohol while driving on duty. Though exposed to liability, the department recognizes the dangers of alcohol abuse and appropriately responds when a dangerous situation presents itself.

Another officer, involved in several shootings and use-of-force incidents, garners significant attention within his agency and the media. Investigations reveal that the unrelated incidents were questionable but lawful and, according to the officer, justified based on perceived threats. The agency’s use-of-force review reluctantly finds the officer within policy but awaits the next incident. How many police leaders would recognize that this officer could have a problem similar to the one in the first example? If the officer’s appearance indicated he was exceptionally muscular, would they consider the possible abuse of anabolic steroids? What would prompt them to believe that excessive use of force could be associated with “’roid rage,” a hyperaggressive, violent state of mind supposedly brought on by steroid use? When and how would they confirm that their suspicions are true? What if a defense or civil attorney proposed that an officer was a steroid abuser based on the officer’s appearance and witnessed behaviors? Compared with alcohol and other illicit drugs, anabolic steroids (also known as anabolic-androgenic steroids, or AASs) are not easily detected. Supervisors typically are trained to look for inappropriate behaviors that might justify a “just cause” drug screen; however, with AASs the behaviors and other indicators might not be as easily recognized.

Recently, accounts of major league baseball’s steroid era have come to light, Olympic athletes have admitted use, and many other major sporting icons have been stripped of their titles after being caught using performance-enhancing drugs such as AASs and human growth hormone (HGH). Unfortunately, growing evidence suggests a similar abuse of AASs and other performance-enhancing drugs by law enforcement professionals. Across the United States, several investigations associated with Internet pharmacies and “antiaging” clinics in association with unscrupulous physicians have revealed officers caught up in this web of illicit drug use.

Although the traditional reason for the use of AASs is to improve athletic performance, AASs also appeal to officers wanting a tactical edge or an intimidating appearance. Unlike with other forms of drug abuse, steroid users do not take their drug recreationally; on the contrary, some state they need these drugs in order to do their job effectively or improve their “job performance.” From street officers who consider themselves vulnerable to bigger, more aggressive criminals to special-assignment officers who are regularly tested for their physical abilities, officers are turning to performance-enhancing drugs such as AASs and HGH as a shortcut to improved performance. This article will not delve into the abuse of HGH, which is not a controlled substance but is obtained by prescription only and has very limited use—none for normal adults.

http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1512&issue_id=62008

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
10. I have been wondering about this
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:17 AM
Aug 2016

So any cops look like linebackers anymore. And their rage that has been caught on video so many times is completely unhinged, not just misplaced.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. That's certainly one possible inference out of many, many more.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:43 PM
Aug 2016

That's certainly one possible inference out of many, many more. I can sympathize with you for focusing on the one interpretation alone at the expense of other possibilities... we often make ourselves feel more clever in doing so.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
5. Drug addiction has infiltrated all segments of society.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:47 AM
Aug 2016

Gone are the days we can think our families are safe based on where we live or go to school or who we hang out with.

garagedoor

(119 posts)
6. Opiate Addiction has taken hold in NH and Ohio among other states
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:03 AM
Aug 2016

It has made addicts of solidly middle class children in parts of the two states (and other states). This in NO WAY has anything to do with culture. Christopher Barry was raised middle to upper middle class, by the way. The problem stems from exposure to the drug and body chemistry in a major way.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
14. It is absolutely about culture....
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:40 AM
Aug 2016

He was raised by a drug addict under the extremely difficult circumstances of being in the public eye.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. In the genes
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:06 AM
Aug 2016

Addiction is passed from generation to generation. Only the VERY strong can get out of it. Seems that the heroin epidemic is claiming a lot of white younger peole. 60 Minutes had a segment on it, and everyone was white. Upper middle class families from small towns.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
32. No, a predisposition for addition is genetic.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:46 PM
Aug 2016

Don't get hooked, you're not addicted.

Make the substance abundant and what you've done is set up a lot of people for pressure--cultural pressure--to try the substance and run a very real risk of addiction. I've known people in AA and often they feel pressure to drink, but really mustn't. Then their kids feel pressured to drink, and that's probably a mistake. (Not necessarily, because like everything else genetic there are some nice laws of inheritance that govern this.)

As for 60 Minutes, consider the source. (1) If they only had black or Latinos, they'd have been panned. (2) If only low income whites, well, just meh. (3) For ratings and to get viewers watching, they have to be "like them." That's what we're told all the time, right--we're only interested in role models and people that look like us? So the really important bit has to be white middle-class.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
23. What culture would that be and in what segment of society????
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:46 PM
Aug 2016

Choose your words carefully because it's a thin line between reflection and racism

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
25. I don't have to pick my words carefully at all..
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:56 PM
Aug 2016

It is the culture where drug addiction and convictions are multiple generations deep....as in this unfortunate case..

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
27. Sure yo do...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:02 PM
Aug 2016

Because your original post sounds like a racist dog whistle

So Marion Barrys family history...is a culture? Please clarify?

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
35. Race Baiter....LOL
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:22 PM
Aug 2016

I'm Black and really take offense at someone talking about how certain behaviors are always linked to certain cultures....mainly those of color. Marijuana prohibition in this country came about because the case for prohibition was framed by depicting Blacks as drugged crazed savages who when high sought only to rape White women. Do you not know this history or are you just a racist looking to perpetuate the myth.

What's really interesting is that in several responses to me you gave to me, you never answered my question?

So what cultures and what segments of society are you referring to? Not a difficult question. What can't you provide an answer?

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
37. Some pretend there is a racist behind every blade of grass. .
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:14 PM
Aug 2016

They are as damaging to society as the actual racists.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
45. Where'd ya go? Decided maybe you jumped to a false conclusion based on hatred rather than facts?
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

If I call someone a racist (or any other vile accusation) and find out I couldn't be more wrong, I tend to apologize...

citood

(550 posts)
51. I, for one, know what 'drug culture' means
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

And it has nothing to do with race. As a matter of fact, every person I have ever personally known who has had a drug problem was white. I don't associate drug addiction with race at all. Come to think of it, I spent a few weeks taking an acquaintance to a methadone clinic, and I did not notice any particular demographic being over-represented.

I am sincere about this - it would never cross my mind that 'drug culture' means any particular race.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
52. But the poster didn't say drug culture.....
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

He said certain "cultures" and "segments of society". I know what drug culture means and growing up in the South Bronx as a kid and living in Washington Heights during the cocaine epidemic of the late 80s and the 90s, I know what the drug culture is all too well.

But I also know what racist dog whistles sound like. People of color have always have to deal with the pejorative terms heaped upon them by the larger society....."Underclass", "Those People" "That Segment of Society" Those racial denigrations have a long history in this country and that post smelled like that crap. I explained to the poster how people of color might perceive the post as exactly that and instead of clarifying their position they got all indignant.

So fuck em......

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
55. There you are again pretending I said something I didn't
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:37 AM
Aug 2016

Wishing perhaps so your fragile ego has someone to villainize....it is a life choice to always be someone's victim.

Oh, and no...you didn't "tell" the poster shit....you accused the poster...then when the poster clarified you accused the poster of being a racist....fuck who?

Anyone who reads this please read post 25...that is the post where I got all "indignant". This poster has accused me of the most vile of lies and pretends throughout this thread he is right...all because ge pretends he can hear "dog whisles" not because of anything I have actually said.

Response to pipoman (Reply #33)

garagedoor

(119 posts)
28. Marion and Effie Barry were separated and then divorced well before
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:26 PM
Aug 2016

Chris was 10. She was a college professor. SHE came from a solid family without drug abuse. Chris was raised BY HER.

I know various people feel Marion or simply "some people" are nothing but crackheads and degenerates by birth but facts are stubborn things and in this case DO NOT PROVE Chris was raised in a drug culture.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,613 posts)
30. Marion Barry (the father who was mayor of DC) majored in chemistry.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 04:31 PM
Aug 2016

He took the hard courses:

Master's degree, Nashville Student Movement, SNCC

Barry earned an M.S. in organic chemistry from Fisk University in 1960.
....

Doctoral studies

Barry began doctoral studies at the University of Kansas but soon quit the program. He contemplated law school to help with his activism, but decided against it because the delayed admission would mean that he would have to take a year off from school. Had he taken a year off, there was a chance of his being drafted into the military, and he did not want to be drafted.

He decided to go to the University of Tennessee where he was awarded a graduate fellowship. In addition, while southern, the University of Tennessee was an integrated educational institution, a new experience for him. He began doctoral chemistry studies at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, the only African American in the program. He learned that he was prohibited from tutoring white children, and his wife Blantie Evans was not allowed to work at the white school. He quit the program in favor of his new duties at SNCC.
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
34. He was raised as the son of the crackhead.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:04 PM
Aug 2016

That is the fact of the matter. Not the mayor of DC....the son of the whore monger crackhead...whether it is true or not...his dad was televised on prime time TeeVee smoking crack with a freaking hooker....it is really no wonder ....incredibly difficult burden for a child...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
47. While all answers are responses, not all response are answers. Yours was a clever response.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:46 PM
Aug 2016

While all answers are responses, not all response are answers. Yours was a clever response.

I too would avoid a direct, clear answer and continue to cower behind implication as well... especially if clarity would advertise me in such a way as to be more accurate than I'd like.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
44. It's called Drug Culture
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:40 AM
Aug 2016

which is all over the map racially.

Drug culture is a culture. It's an equal opportunity culture. Black, white, brown, blue. It doesn't matter to drug culture. Everyone's invited.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
43. I am as clear in 25 as any English speaking person can be...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

You are just playing the McCarthy of racism here..

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. No more, nor no less clear than responding to the question "what is the sum of 2+2?"
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:51 PM
Aug 2016

No more, nor no less clear than responding to the question "what is the sum of 2+2?" with "a number...", regardless of any difficulties one may have with English, McCarthy or the vacuousness of '25.'

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
53. I think this is one of the most racist statements I have read on DU, in it's implication ...
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:35 PM
Aug 2016

as well as the most ignorant. This is similar to a Donald Trump declaration; by saying "some segments" but refusing to specify one can make the implication without actually saying it. The implication that Marion Barry and his son belong to that culture

Drug addiction happens in all parts of society. Some people are genetically prone, and some are so prone that it is very, very difficult to overcome the tendency.

Drug addiction is not part of a culture. It is it's own culture.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
54. Oh really... then you should check yourself
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:31 AM
Aug 2016
Drug addiction happens in all parts of society.

Fucking duh...the deaf hearers of dog whistles are one of the dumbest groups on the planet....

madokie

(51,076 posts)
3. As long as the 'war on drugs'
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:24 AM
Aug 2016

puts money in lawyers, judges and prosecutors pockets, not counting the police departments, there will be no changes to the 'war on drugs'


 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
11. Some people are genetically.disposed towards addiction
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:19 AM
Aug 2016

It's an illness, and personal responsibility has nothing to do with it.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
12. I disagree. Marion Barry (the father) was the Mayor of Washington D.C. and had all the resources
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
Aug 2016

at his disposal. Much like Rob Ford in Canada, Barry chose his path. His son followed in his father's footsteps. Personal responsibility cannot be ignored. I reject the idea that we are just victims who randomly travel through time.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
15. I agree. A lot of people that comment on addiction have no idea how powerful it is.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

Having resources at your disposal doesn't have shit to do with it. It was just luck that I was able to quit.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. Booze
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:11 AM
Aug 2016

I do not drink, or drink one or two then stop. I married an alcoholic and all three of our children are alcoholics. Life was chaotic when they were teens and twenties. Drunk driving arrests, etc. Very upsetting. Their father died at 62 and did not remember WHO his parents were, could not name them even though he was one of 6 kids.

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
19. I became an alcoholic the first time I caught a buzz at 15.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

And life was a lot like you described. Sorry you were put through all that.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
20. Some genetic predisposition does not mean that he was unable...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:33 AM
Aug 2016

... to physically keep himself from shooting, snorting or whatever it was.

He had a choice...

TexasBushwhacker

(20,215 posts)
22. I agree
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 01:38 PM
Aug 2016

If anyone in your immediate family has addiction issues, it's wise to avoid ALL addictive substances. Why temp fate?

My dad was an alcoholic, as were his parents. One of my brothers had a drug addiction problem for decades. I generally don't drink, but I'll have an occassional margarita when I'm having Mexican food.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
26. It's still a choice...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:01 PM
Aug 2016

Alcoholics all down the family line... I am certainly predisposed to it...

Had a hard time learning when to say when but in the end, it got better when I chose to do so.

My choices, my consequences.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
29. Congratulations for finding your way out of it.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:39 PM
Aug 2016

I've only been dependent, never addicted, and when the pills ran out I decided that was it, even though there was plenty of residual pain. It sucked and I'd have to say it was really mild compared to what I've seen addicts go through.

I have a friend who also found his way out. He described it as trying smack on a dare and then waking up 18 years later.

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