UPDATED: Trump blames ‘false narrative’ for struggles in normally-Republican Utah

[DonViejo]

Last edited Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:58 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Reuters

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump acknowledged on Thursday that his campaign was struggling in Utah, a usually rock-solid Republican state, in a sign that party loyalists were still divided over whether to support him.

Trump made the comment in urging conservative Christian evangelicals to organize support for him in several key states where the Nov. 8 election is likely to be decided, such as Ohio, Florida and Virginia.

It came on a rare day of self-reflection for the wealthy New York businessman, who has suffered a number of self-inflicted wounds in recent days that have given the advantage in the campaign to Democrat Hillary Clinton.

“We’re having a tremendous problem in Utah,” Trump told a conference room filled with evangelical pastors, blaming a “false narrative” that has been built up around his candidacy. A SurveyUSA opinion poll conducted for the Salt Lake Tribune in June showed Clinton and Trump tied. Other polls have given Trump a lead but not the type of advantage that previous Republican nominees have enjoyed in the state.

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-blames-false-narrative-for-struggles-in-normally-republican-utah/

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UPDATE:

kpete has entered the following OP, information that changes the entire "kinder and gentler Trump" slant (imo) of this Reuters article I posted, above, the OP:


Trump goes from bashing and insulting groups to taking on whole states.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028092028

[louis-t]

1. Yeah, must be someone else's fault.

It couldn't be because he's a moron. It just couldn't be.

[wordpix]

19. false narrative, rigged voting ahead of his defeat, false candidate

-it's all a big fake, right Donald. And Obama founded ISIS on top of that!

[63splitwindow]

2. Wait! Leading a hedonistic lifestyle and trashing Mormon Mitt Romney is a "false narrative?"

[maxsolomon]

3. For all the craziness of their theology,

Mormons believe in modesty and fair dealing. They do not like braggarts or swindlers.

Unless they're Mormon! I kid...

[wordpix]

20. not all Mormons are fair, like Warren Jeffs marrying 12 y.o. girls

and 80 wives altogether.


http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-polygamist-cults-last-stand-the-rise-and-fall-of-warren-jeffs-20160209

[maxsolomon]

22. I'm not talking about the FLDS

I'm talking about mainstream SLC white-bread suburbanite Momos.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. Yes and it's his false narrative that's tanking his sorry fat ass.

[Enrique]

5. did he really say false narrative

that's closer to a junior high reading level than his usual 3rd grade.

[63splitwindow]

6. Can't you just see one of his handlers drilling those words into his brain?

[wordpix]

21. it's on the teleprompter

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. Or Mormons have an idea of what religious discrimination is like

Trump’s Muslim ban would undo centuries of American tradition and values. To this day, I wonder if he even understands the implications of his proposal. This policy would literally undo what made America great in the first place.

But you don’t have to take it from me. Listen to Mitt Romney, who said Trump “fired before aiming” when he decided a blanket religious ban was a solution to the threat of terrorism.

Listen to former Sen. Larry Pressler, who said Trump’s plan reminded him of when Missouri Gov. Lilburn Boggs singled out Mormons in his infamous extermination order of 1838.

Or listen to your governor, who saw Trump’s statement as a reminder of President Rutherford B. Hayes’ attempt to limit Mormon immigration to America in 1879.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865659843/Exclusive-Hillary-Clinton-What-I-have-in-common-with-Utah-leaders-2-religious-freedom-and-the.html

[Xolodno]

13. Yeap. Mormons are very accutely aware of a religion...

...being "targeted". Much like the Dukabors, Molokans, Subotniki, Khlysty, etc. in Russia....or Jews and Christians in Iran...or Muslims in India, etc.

It may be today Muslims, but tomorrow, it could be "heretics". Sure they own Utah and parts of Idaho and Nevada...but that's it.

A cult is a religion with no political power - Tom Wolfe

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

8. While I have never been to Utah,

over the years I've known any number of Mormons. And although they, like all of us, have their flaws, marital fidelity is enormously important to them. So Trump's several marriages and his bragging about all the women who've wanted to sleep with him would no doubt be highly offensive to many in that state.

[Xithras]

9. Half my family is Mormon

They're typically staunch Republicans, but NONE of them are Trump fans. Mormons tend to take their religion pretty seriously, and Trump's multiple marriages and the fact that he's a casino and gambling magnate (strictly prohibited in Mormonism), mean that every single one of them has expressed a disinterest in supporting him in the election. My uncle actually told me, "We survived eight years of Obama, and four years of Clinton can't be any worse than that."

Trump has turned off a HUGE number of traditional Republican voters. They aren't supporting Hillary, but many of them are willing to "put up with" a Clinton presidency rather than support Trump.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. "four years of Clinton can't be any worse than that."

That is an interesting observation from them and I am thinking maybe others are thinking the same.

[Xolodno]

14. ....

"Half my family is Mormon"

*channels Orgasmo*

"Oh, I'm Sorry"

We know some Mormons in Utah who vote "D", thought they would be virtual enemies of the state. But their neighbors who were "R" treated them real well and vice versa. In fact one of them had a side clay dish sculpting business. We were interested in seeing it, but he was busy....so he told us to just walk into his house and take a look while he was gone.....that really freaked me out.

[Xithras]

16. It is what it is.

One of my grandparents converted to Mormonism decades ago and took a big chunk of the family with him. So long as we don't talk religion, the family gets along just fine.

And you know Mormon Democrats in Utah? Wow, rare birds indeed.

But yes, Mormonism teaches its followers to be kind at all times, which is why most Mormons are civil even when they disagree with you. One of the things I respect about Mormons is their ability to be civil even when you're disagreeing with them. It's part of their faith, and it's something that other Christian faiths would do well to emulate.

[63splitwindow]

11. Their connection to Mitt Romney is deep. Not only is he a prominent Mormon...

he was the CEO of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Committee. Don the Con's all out attack on him is, IMHO, a MAJOR factor in their dislike of him and his unprincipled line of bullshit.

[63splitwindow]

12. From the update. Q. How many faces does The Con have? A. As many as needed.

[maxsolomon]

23. how in the world is that not a fake tweet?

if it's not, how is that not national news?

it does have strange people, but it isn't boring - Southern UT it might be the most beautiful place in 'Merica.

[sakabatou]

15. I hope Clinton uses this very well

[leftyladyfrommo]

17. I lived in SLC for 6 years.

I cannot believe that Utah might go Blue. It just blows my mind.

[Joisey Boy]

18. Trump Blames

Everyone but Trump.