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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:01 PM Aug 2016

Child yells profanity directed at Hillary Clinton during Donald Trump rally

Source: Los Angeles times




9:49 A.M.REPORTING FROM Ashburn, Va.
Noah Bierman


Child yells profanity directed at Hillary Clinton during Donald Trump rally

A school-age child at a Donald Trump rally on Tuesday stood up and yelled "Take the bitch down" after the candidate mentioned Hillary Clinton. His mother later defended the child's right to speak and blamed his language on "Democratic schools."

The child, who looked no more than 10, was sitting next to his mother in the media section.

The mother identified herself in a brief interview with a small group of reporters as Pam Kohler of Mount Vernon, Va., but she would not name her son or say how old he is.

“He's a minor so he can't be interviewed,” Kohler said...............

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-school-child-yells-profanity-directed-1470156548-htmlstory.html



Really--this says more about the type of people that Trump attracts!!




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Child yells profanity directed at Hillary Clinton during Donald Trump rally (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2016 OP
And I'm proud to be a murcan Glamrock Aug 2016 #1
As a parent and a human I am so disgusted with the socialization of this child pandr32 Aug 2016 #16
Surely you jest! Glamrock Aug 2016 #19
He certainly brings out the best of America n/t hibbing Aug 2016 #2
Mom blames it on "Democratic schools" Person 2713 Aug 2016 #3
Ever notice that people who hate public schools.. LakeArenal Aug 2016 #11
Like Trump--the mom makes up excuses and blames others. riversedge Aug 2016 #37
Probably home-schools the little bastard. N/M Grins Aug 2016 #39
Excuse me Ma'am, it is your fault. It is ALL your fault. You are a TOTAL FAIL as a mother. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #4
Yep Roy Rolling Aug 2016 #6
And this is my personal message to the mother... 47of74 Aug 2016 #8
Only sick people attend those things. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #5
My Mom would've sent me to bed without meals for the next three goddamn days... 47of74 Aug 2016 #7
...and mine, after I picked myself up off the floor! N/M Grins Aug 2016 #40
And the soap in the mouth - packman Aug 2016 #41
If anything, it should have been a huge wake up call to her.. -Steph- Aug 2016 #9
Just another hater being groomed ..and she helped Person 2713 Aug 2016 #18
it won't open her eyes Skittles Aug 2016 #31
By the way, did the Con act lke an adult and let the child know not to speak like that? 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #10
The good news-many young people are appalled-my son's friends protested peacefully Neurotica Aug 2016 #12
The new "Trump Jugend" recruit speaks with his master's voice! Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #13
Carefully Taught........... mrmpa Aug 2016 #22
Good old "family values" in the good old GOP. (Those parents = Low Life Lunatics) RBInMaine Aug 2016 #14
I'd guess that the mother was behind it. JDC Aug 2016 #15
I agree. But either way it reflects directly on the parents. unitedwethrive Aug 2016 #34
You can't make this shit up bigdarryl Aug 2016 #17
Shock waves. Rose Siding Aug 2016 #20
Hillary has an Ad that that Mom needs to see. aeroman Aug 2016 #21
I do not think this mom would be interested. riversedge Aug 2016 #36
It is learned at home. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #23
"You've Got to Be Taught" from South Pacific LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2016 #30
How much ya wanna bet SCVDem Aug 2016 #24
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!! vkkv Aug 2016 #25
Young impressionable minds ffr Aug 2016 #26
NOT the way to make up rocktivity Aug 2016 #27
Home of George Washington sofa king Aug 2016 #28
Well, without commentating on whether or not someone should SheilaT Aug 2016 #29
I agree--it is the responsibility of riversedge Aug 2016 #35
When my grandson was 2 awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #42
Oh, yes! SheilaT Aug 2016 #43
Geez-- what a little darling!! ailsagirl Aug 2016 #32
I hope the kid is okay. raven mad Aug 2016 #33
Parent of the year, there! Odin2005 Aug 2016 #38

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
16. As a parent and a human I am so disgusted with the socialization of this child
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:38 PM
Aug 2016

I think cavemen likely did a better job--in fact I am certain of it!

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
11. Ever notice that people who hate public schools..
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:19 PM
Aug 2016

seem to be the most dense. Democratic schools... Yeah, all my teacher's were letting go f-bombs daily...
Seems to me it was my parents who were responsible for teaching me manners and civility.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
6. Yep
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:08 PM
Aug 2016

Thinking the same thing. They type of mom who would be the first to scream that parents educate her children more than public schools.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
8. And this is my personal message to the mother...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:10 PM
Aug 2016

And it is directed ONLY at the mother and not her child.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
7. My Mom would've sent me to bed without meals for the next three goddamn days...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:08 PM
Aug 2016

...not beaming with pride and giving excuses for bullshit behavior.

-Steph-

(409 posts)
9. If anything, it should have been a huge wake up call to her..
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:13 PM
Aug 2016

That should have opened her eyes wide to the hate and vitriol that she's allowing to be passed down to her child. Unfortunately, she's probably proud of that moment.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
18. Just another hater being groomed ..and she helped
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:40 PM
Aug 2016

Damn proud of sonny I reckon
And they got on the teevee

Neurotica

(609 posts)
12. The good news-many young people are appalled-my son's friends protested peacefully
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:23 PM
Aug 2016

This is our neighborhood. 10-12 young people got kicked out of the rally for peacefully protesting. Once outside, they sat on the ground and continued to do the same. I'm proud to know some of them--they give me hope.

JDC

(10,129 posts)
15. I'd guess that the mother was behind it.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:33 PM
Aug 2016

No doubt in my mind she coaxed her child to shout this out in a sick effort to gain media attention.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
20. Shock waves.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:49 PM
Aug 2016

Shock in waves. When they come one after another like this the norm shifts.

Who knows where all his talk about rigged elections before the fact could lead. The people who are represented in the media as his followers are unhinged and are clearly the worst among us. I've seen people who suck up to rich people thinking it will rub off or something. How could they get such an idea? It's partly that, but look who she blames for the deficiencies in her own parenting skills. Democratic schools. So mindless. Does she really think a "Democratic school" taught him to smear Hillary Clinton. Can he read or add? God knows she's abdicated all responsibility.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
29. Well, without commentating on whether or not someone should
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 01:24 AM
Aug 2016

support a particular candidate in this election, the language a child uses is primarily on the shoulders of the parents.

They do repeat what they've heard at home. And yes, while kids hear things the parents might never say, it is also up to the parents to make it crystal clear what is acceptable language, and what is unacceptable.

Lots of times, when my kids were young, I said, "That is not acceptable."

We don't have 100% control, I understand. I was almost entirely a stay at home mom, which meant I did have a lot of control in those early years. But once, when my oldest was about three (before the youngest made his existence known) I took a temp job, which meant I had to cobble together day care arrangements for said three year old. In the middle of the week he came home repeating something, somewhat vulgar, that he'd clearly learned from the older kids. Now, don't get me wrong. I understand that many moms do not have the options that I had then about staying home, but they always have the option of making it clear to the kid what's acceptable and what's not.

For a remarkably long time we really are our kids' first and primary influence. I am NOT criticizing working moms who need to put their kids in daycare. I get it, even though I was fortunate enough to have a different path. But we are still the first and most essential influence, especially in those early years.

And don't get me wrong. My kids were not perfect. Son #2 in particular managed to get in various sorts of trouble, including being picked up on possession of marijuana the summer before his senior year in high school. The detail aren't particularly important, but when things turned around, I asked him why and how we'd come through this unscathed. He said two things. One was that he'd sown his wild oats in high school, unlike his college classmates who'd never strayed during those years and were now going wild and in the process of flunking out; and that essentially he wasn't that kind of person. I hope that's because of how we raised him. And it's not as though it's been totally smooth sailing since. A couple of years ago his roommate (this son is now in his late 20's) called me to report some worrisome drug issues, which seem to be resolved. I hope. I do NOT want to sound like the perfect mom who experienced a bump or two and now it's all perfect. There are always pitfalls.

But back to the OP. This sort of language, especially from a 10 year old, is simply not acceptable. And that mom should know that. This is in the category of "boys will be boys" to excuse bullying or sexual harassment of girls. Boys are not entitled to be boys that way. Treating others with dignity and respect is always what should be expected.

I happen to have a very low opinion of Donald Trump (as well as of others) but when posting about him (or those others) I try to stick to facts and what I hope is thoughtful analysis.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
35. I agree--it is the responsibility of
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 05:50 AM
Aug 2016

the parents--and other adult caretakers to make it clear what language -and words are acceptable. It is a constant battle --kids pick up so much, including fowl language. We have a large extended family and I was fortunate enough to rely on them a lot but they also went to day care. Things are far from perfect but we all know better than to use the word 'bit**!!

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The excuse--Children will be children--is a lazy way of this mom to say--it is OK. I feel bad for this child.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
42. When my grandson was 2
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:14 PM
Aug 2016

my wife knocked something over in the kitchen, and "oh shit" slipped out of her mouth. Later on, he was in the living room, knocking his cars off the table one at a time, and saying "oh sit" each time. I had to leave the room so he didn't hear me laughing while the wife talked to him

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
43. Oh, yes!
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:19 PM
Aug 2016

I've witnessed something very similar when my younger son was that age.

Made me clean up my own language, I'll tell you.

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