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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:51 PM Aug 2016

U.S. Sent Cash to Iran as Americans Were Freed

Source: WSJ

By JAY SOLOMON and CAROL E. LEE
Aug. 2, 2016 7:51 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration secretly organized an airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran that coincided with the January release of four Americans detained in Tehran, according to U.S. and European officials and congressional staff briefed on the operation afterward.

Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane, according to these officials. The U.S. procured the money from the central banks of the Netherlands and Switzerland, they said.

The money represented the first installment of a $1.7 billion settlement the Obama administration reached with Iran to resolve a decades-old dispute over a failed arms deal signed just before the 1979 fall of Iran’s last monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

The settlement, which resolved claims before an international tribunal in The Hague, also coincided with the formal implementation that same weekend of the landmark nuclear agreement reached between Tehran, the U.S. and other global powers the summer before.

Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-1470181874



So we returned 'some' of the money that was Iran's in the first place. Big f'n deal...
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U.S. Sent Cash to Iran as Americans Were Freed (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2016 OP
I thought this thread was going to be about... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #1
Right. That was treasonous - before the election Reagan sent negotiators to Europe.... George II Aug 2016 #2
Didnt you get the memo? Its not treason if a Republican does it, its patriotic. cstanleytech Aug 2016 #5
They seem to be coincidence theory nuts. eom Festivito Aug 2016 #18
Or, as Kissinger put it: forest444 Aug 2016 #33
There's a Trump ad on the radio Freddie Aug 2016 #27
So did I! n/t Chemisse Aug 2016 #22
cash? thats shady. elehhhhna Aug 2016 #3
We agreed to give back THEIR money that was previously frozen as a term of an agreement .... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #8
I agree with returning it, but cash? elehhhhna Aug 2016 #25
This Can't Be Good News For Hillary.... global1 Aug 2016 #4
Pres Obama still cleaning up the unresolved mess left by those who went before him. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #7
As a rule Repukes make the messes and the Dems have to clean them up. anamandujano Aug 2016 #10
That is true. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #12
You Know That And I Know That But... global1 Aug 2016 #11
I wish the administration would do a better job explaining why Ilsa Aug 2016 #28
No he did not karynnj Aug 2016 #30
Then they should repeat what they said then. Ilsa Aug 2016 #35
They have, the problem is the media karynnj Aug 2016 #36
The headlines will read.... Lulu KC Aug 2016 #6
Other than RW vulture sites, where do you predict this will be the headline? 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #9
Headline of quote from Trump, I meant n/t Lulu KC Aug 2016 #14
That could be. Fucking attention whoring media. 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #15
who could possibly see anything wrong with this? 6chars Aug 2016 #13
I don't necessarily "fault" us for freezing the funds nor the release thereof (cash, check etc,) 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #16
It wasn't secret, and it was their money not ours bhikkhu Aug 2016 #17
Old story, being sensationalized now by right wing WSJ for political reasons wishstar Aug 2016 #19
Yes! I just realized this! Lulu KC Aug 2016 #20
All Hillary Has To Say videohead5 Aug 2016 #21
It was not for the hostages karynnj Aug 2016 #24
This was spoken of even in the lead up to the final deal karynnj Aug 2016 #23
We sent 12 billion BigMin28 Aug 2016 #26
Yep, just Trump. NT Ilsa Aug 2016 #29
Good. All sides are making good on the new agreements and the settlement agreement. Sunlei Aug 2016 #31
As more negative polls come out GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #32
I suppose I should not be surprised by the media using a click-bait title for the article. ManiacJoe Aug 2016 #34
Old, old news. Not even a story. truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #37

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Right. That was treasonous - before the election Reagan sent negotiators to Europe....
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:02 PM
Aug 2016

....to promise "something" to the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election and his inauguration to first win the election and second make Carter look ever worse.

I suspect that "something" may have been along the lines of the Iran/Contra affair, Reagan's SECOND treasonous act by defying the will of Congress.

Reagan was far from a saint and very very far from being a "great" president.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
27. There's a Trump ad on the radio
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 12:01 PM
Aug 2016

That *brags* about this very treasonous incident as an example of how St. Ronnie had a strong military to "keep us safe" and Trump will do the same.
Needs a rebuttal for sure.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
8. We agreed to give back THEIR money that was previously frozen as a term of an agreement ....
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:11 PM
Aug 2016

that we concluded was, overall, in our best interest. If the idea of the first installment being cash meant something meaningful to them, GREAT. In reality (which we deal in) the mode of payment was totally insignificant once the designated time for payment arrived.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
7. Pres Obama still cleaning up the unresolved mess left by those who went before him.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:09 PM
Aug 2016
The money represented the first installment of a $1.7 billion settlement the Obama administration reached with Iran to resolve a decades-old dispute over a failed arms deal signed just before the 1979 fall of Iran’s last monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
10. As a rule Repukes make the messes and the Dems have to clean them up.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:17 PM
Aug 2016

They also empty the coffers while Dems are charged with filling them again while taking the heat from those who caused the problems to begin with.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
12. That is true.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:23 PM
Aug 2016

GHW Bush ended his term in the RED. Bill Clinton clean it up & ended his term in the BLACK.
GW Bush blew through trillions & left this country a hellhole for Obama to somehow figure out how to put it back together..and with a RW Legislature working against him.
We will never recover from Trump.

global1

(25,253 posts)
11. You Know That And I Know That But...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:21 PM
Aug 2016

there will be millions of Americans that will be influenced by how Trump will interpret it.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
28. I wish the administration would do a better job explaining why
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016

This is happening. The press secretary flubbed it, IMO.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
30. No he did not
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:50 PM
Aug 2016

This happened in January and both the White House and State Department explained ALL the various negotiations then.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
35. Then they should repeat what they said then.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:48 PM
Aug 2016

The media take has been negative, as has the gossipy smearing.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
36. They have, the problem is the media
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:30 AM
Aug 2016

This started the same way every right wing story has. The Murdock owned Wall street journal wrote a story, FOX repeated it and it is on all the right wing sites. It is now repeated by Pence and others to try to change the coverage.

The fact is the White House and the State Department explained all of this in detail back in January. There were serious articles about it in serious papers. There was NO interest here even when everything was resolved and all the agreements signed.

Not to mention, they have forgotten the years of negotiation where the WH and SD were asked constantly about those hostages and Kerry's answer that it was brought up every time they met was considered too little.

They are repeating the same things now. However, the media other than the most serious parts is in attention deficit mode.

What is really the root of this is they are relitigating the Iran deal itself. The fact though is it IS doing what it was designed to do.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
13. who could possibly see anything wrong with this?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:24 PM
Aug 2016

The sailor thing was our fault. So was the holding onto Iran's money. And the timing of these two events was just coincidence.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
17. It wasn't secret, and it was their money not ours
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:38 PM
Aug 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/17/politics/us-pays-iran-1-7-billion/

Iran set up a $400 million dollar trust fund here to go toward military equipment purchases, back when the Shah was running things. After the revolution the US government froze those funds. A part of the hostage exchange was unfreezing the funds - giving Iran's money back to Iran. I'm ok with that.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
19. Old story, being sensationalized now by right wing WSJ for political reasons
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:48 PM
Aug 2016

This was already explained back in January- but these writers are seizing on an opportunity to turn it into a scandal that can used by Trump and Repubs to smear Obama Admin.

Lulu KC

(2,567 posts)
20. Yes! I just realized this!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:54 PM
Aug 2016

A January story that was on CNN is news because....? But I thought even WSJ was coming around to Hillary. Must catch up!

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
24. It was not for the hostages
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 05:37 AM
Aug 2016

Last edited Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:49 PM - Edit history (1)

It was part of the entire deal that put Iran more than a year from a nuclear bomb with invasive inspections from a point where they were within 2 months and no inspections.

This is the right resurfacing things known more than a year ago to argue the Iran deal was not good. The truth is it has made a war with Iran far less likely. Obama and Kerry are justified in being very proud of their work. It was very significant that Clinton spoke of that Obama administration accomplishment in her acceptance speech .

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
23. This was spoken of even in the lead up to the final deal
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 05:30 AM
Aug 2016

It was not secret. Iran, in that time period, was shipping out enriched uranium and destroying a plutonium reactor. Clearly, this is put out as "news" again to religate the deal.

In fact, when the deal was agreed to in July 2015, Obama spoke of the fact that they would get their money that had been frozen for decades. He addressed the concern that it could be partly used to support terror.

Note that was before the vote required by the Corker/Cardin resolution.

BigMin28

(1,177 posts)
26. We sent 12 billion
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:57 AM
Aug 2016

in cash to Iraq under Bush, no one can account for it, and you heard nothing about it from the rethugs!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
32. As more negative polls come out
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:48 PM
Aug 2016

Like the Fox Poll this evening, the normal RW 'media' outlets are going to become desperate and start throwing anything against the wall for something that sticks.

I cannot believe that this is the best they can do. I was reported when it happened. We signed a treaty with them. They stopped developing nuclear weapons. And we released their frozen assets from 35 years ago.

I really hope in the debate(which I doubt happens) trump is asked what it means to 'cancel' the Iran treaty. Because almost all of our Allies signed on. They will not follow suit. So does he sanction them? That dipshit will probably threaten to do so.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
34. I suppose I should not be surprised by the media using a click-bait title for the article.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:29 PM
Aug 2016

The title should have read, "U.S. Returned Cash to Iran as Americans Were Freed"

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