Debate commission to Trump: The dates are set

[TheBaculumKing]

Source: Politico

The Commission on Presidential Debates responded to Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee's complaints about the debate schedule with a message on Sunday: The schedule is set.

"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) started working more than 18 months ago to identify religious and federal holidays, baseball league playoff games, NFL games, and other events in order to select the best nights for the 2016 debates," the commission said in a statement. "It is impossible to avoid all sporting events, and there have been nights on which debates and games occurred in most election cycles. A debate has never been rescheduled as a result."





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Short version: Fuck off.

[gwheezie]

1. Let's see him try to get out of debating

It will be Hillary's fault of course but he's gotta try.

[TheBaculumKing]

4. Makes No Difference

He's been "Tickling the Dragon's Tail" since the beginning, he was bound to reach criticality eventually, getting so thoroughly stomped in Philadelphia finally made him go too far with the Khans, he'll steadily bleed from now to November unless he bails and leaves Mike Pence holding the bag.

[pscot]

61. I like the way you think.

[FarPoint]

11. Sore throat, sick child...

Dog ate my earpiece.... something along those lines.....excuse checkoff list.

[DemoTex]

26. Hairpiece ..

Dog ate my hairpiece.

[FarPoint]

28. Ohhh yes!

I can see that as a necessity. .

[Spitfire of ATJ]

83. Not ate, is. And it ran away.

[PatSeg]

33. I can picture him praying for

some natural disaster or major crisis as an excuse to cancel a debate. He likes being before the camera when HE is in total control.

[TheBaculumKing]

43. Who Would He Pray To?

Praying to any entity presupposes that you hold that entity above yourself.

[PatSeg]

44. True

More like bribing some not quite higher power.

[emulatorloo]

57. "Russia, if you're listening ..."

[jmowreader]

58. The only deity that would have him is Cthulhu

Let's see here...

Jesus? Nope. When Jesus sets Mafia Don to the left, it'll be the only time in his history that ever happened.

Allah? Dude, quit smoking that shit.

Buddha, Vishnu, Ra? No, no, no.

And as for the Flying Spaghetti Monster...Trump has made so much money selling the FSM topped with marinara and meatballs it'd be no use praying to him.

Satan is right out too...ol' Mephistopheles really hates it when there's someone even more evil than he is.

So he's left with Cthulhu, Humanity's basic nightmare.

[riversedge]

2. Hey Trumpy--you always bragged about making DEALS!!---> you FAILED!

[riversedge]

5. Has trump responded with a name-calling tantrum yet?

[TheBaculumKing]

8. The Countdown is Running eom

[Happyhippychick]

6. I thought he always wins?

[riversedge]

7. His 'ART' in making deals are a #Fail

[former9thward]

9. To set the debates against the NFL is brain dead.

Or else they are deliberately trying to get as small of audience as possible.

[TheBaculumKing]

12. There Are No Empty Nights

No matter when they schedule it there will be SOMETHING on.

[former9thward]

13. Not the NFL which is far more popular than politics.

[LuvLoogie]

15. The debate schedule was set before the NFL schedule.

[former9thward]

22. And they set it on Monday night.

Knowing that the NFL has Monday Night football which has been around forever. Deliberately trying to create a small audience.

[Tempest]

37. Every Monday night debate has beaten the NFL in the ratings since 1992

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/31/here-are-the-facts-about-the-debate-over-the-debates/

[former9thward]

41. You are really missing the point.

It is not about who will win the ratings. Its that people will have to choose the debate over the nfl or visa versa. That will cause the debate audience to be smaller than it would have been.

[TheBaculumKing]

45. The Best Parts Will Be EVERYWHERE on Tuesday

[tblue37]

47. DVR and online vidervideos solve the problem. nt

[snooper2]

84. kind of depends on who is playing, I mean- Nobody watches the Redscabs or the Lions LOL

[Tempest]

91. Those who choose football over the debates wouldn't watch the debates anyway

If football wasn't on, they'd be watching something else other than the debates.

The only ones who watch debates are political junkies and those interested in the race. And those people don't care what else is on at the time.

[Kingofalldems]

62. That's what Trump says.

How about that message he got from the NFL!

[Tempest]

36. NFL is not as popular as the debates according to past ratings

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/31/here-are-the-facts-about-the-debate-over-the-debates/

[trixie]

48. Not everyone watches football

No one in my family watches football. No one I know watches football. I know in some areas it is a no-miss-sport but being from Detroit, not so much.

[former9thward]

49. Look at the rating sheets.

Sometimes NFL games are 5 out of the top 10 programs.

[Charles Bukowski]

65. On Sunday when there's nothing else on

Yes, the NFL does gangbusters there.

[former9thward]

66. Uhh no.

The top 10 is for all programs all days.

[Charles Bukowski]

73. Well then, should the debates be rescheduled

to avoid the other shows in the top 10?

Good thing NBC's Thursday night lineup isn't what it used to be.

[trixie]

76. ?????

Really? Could care less. No sports on tv allowed in the main rooms UNLESS it's the playoffs for Tigers, Pistons or Red Wings. Even then we really just watch the very, very end. We all played sports as kids/young adults but no sports on tv was the rule of the family. Even on Thanksgiving a couple of the in-laws will go downstairs to watch but everyone else is upstairs.

My dad played football in high school and never, ever wanted to watch a game - too boring he would say.

Can't you just record, or dvr the debates then? I probably might check in now and then but I already know who I am voting for.

[maddiemom]

82. For anyone with a real conflict, there IS taping.

Taping the game, of course, would spoil things. Taping the debates, however, would make sense.

[grubbs]

14. You are assuming that trumpanzees

Would watch the debates if a game was not on at the same time. I do not think that logic holds. There are popular programs on virtually every night of the week. The schedule was made months before the nfl schedule came out. This is just trump trying to be the candy ass whiny victim that for some reason his followers adore.

[Ruby the Liberal]

19. Monday night football is a new thing?

I had the same reaction when I saw the first debate was scheduled for Sept 26th - "During Monday Night Football?" And I'm not even a football fan, but its fall.

[grubbs]

25. I am not saying mnf is a new thing

Football does not matter. It is a nothing burger. Just don trying to cook up a controversy if he decides to wuss out. Remember , both parties agreed to the dates long ago. I assume millions of dems watch football too, in spite of the reps attempts to presume ownership of it the way they do freedom and patriotism. In fact, if it were not for a lot of big blue cities the nfl wouldn't exist. So yeah. Dems love America football and apple pie. You just gotta choose what you want to watch and dvr the other.

[former9thward]

50. The parties did not agree to the dates.

They are set by the Presidential Commission on Debates not the parties.

[LuvLoogie]

53. There is not one debate night for Hillary and one debate

night for Trump. They will be on the same stage at the same time.

[former9thward]

55. So?

The poster said the parties agreed. False.

[grubbs]

56. My bad. I misunderstood

But given the homogenous love of football that transcends parties, debates during games give no one the advantage. If you would rather watch a football game rather than a debate chances are you would not be watching the debate anyway.

[LuvLoogie]

75. Donald Trump said the NFL sent him a letter objecting to the schedule. The NFL says that is untrue.

Besides, the campaigns don't set the presidential debate schedule. There is no unfairness or seeking to minimize the audience. Donald is looking for an excuse for why he's gonna suck. That's all./

[former9thward]

20. "trumpanzees"?

You think Democrats don't watch football? Wow, I am glad I don't live in your world.

[FarPoint]

29. It's just a game....

One wins one looses...end of game..... Recap at 11 pm...

[grubbs]

30. I clarified it

Sorry for inadvertently suggesting you were a trumpansy.(I like that spelling) the arrogant reps actuALly believe that only they enjoy what they perceive as manly or patriotic pursuits.

[mrmpa]

32. If it's a Steelers game............

believe me my remote will be working overtime........

[grubbs]

54. Indeed

I have been bleeding black and gold for forty years!

[mrmpa]

68. Me too..........

probably 43 years or so. When I was about 15 or 16. We had a neighbor who had a massive heart attack while watching a game & yelling and screaming, he died.

[grubbs]

69. I can see myself doing that.

I hope you didn't have to see it.

[mrmpa]

77. No I didn't.....we used his death as a warning to my Dad when he got too excited........eo

[yeoman6987]

51. I think viewers watch trump

Heck even he beat Hillary on their match up and the RNC debates were highly watched. I think they will watch no matter what's on.

[Kingofalldems]

63. Democratic convention had higher ratings than republicans.

[Kingofalldems]

64. He's just great isn't he?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. "They" (independent commission) set the dates in Sept 2015. Trump can't face down football?

Both parties agreed to the dates way back then.

How would Trump try to handle a face down with China or NKorea? By asking them to move a summit around the opening episode of Celebrity White House Intern? And throw a Twitter tantrum if they stand firm?

[Tempest]

34. Except even with the NFL games, the debates have high rating numbers

And in many cases have higher ratings than the NFL game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/31/here-are-the-facts-about-the-debate-over-the-debates/

[Hekate]

87. You are very very concerned about this.I finally gave up on the long subthread, but I got that much.

This really concerns you. The nonpartisan Commission looked at every religious and nonreligious hoilday and sports event to work out the best dates. Using their same criteria, please tell us what dates you think would be better? Or using other criteria -- which please share with us -- what dates would be better?

As far as I can tell, the only people in real life who are complaining about the dates are Benedict Donald and his team.

And frankly, they don't concern me at all. With them, it's just The Art of the Stall.

[former9thward]

88. Are you a hit and run poster?

I am not. If I make a post and someone replies to me, especially if they ask a question or attack me, then I reply back. But in your world that means I am "very concerned". I made exactly one post in reply to the OP. All the rest were replies to other posters who replied to me. How come you did not post to all the other people in the thread who replied to the OP and call them "very concerned"? I know why...

[Hekate]

89. I'll take out one of the "verys," since you only appear 9 times in the subthread.

Bye. Gotta get going on the rest of my day.

[treestar]

10. good

Trumpy sure is great at raising nonissues.

[Kennah]

16. So Hillary shows up to debate Gary and Jill? This could be interesting. n/t

[TheBaculumKing]

18. I Don't Think They'll Make the Cut

She should debate an empty suit hanging behind the podium.

One made in Hong Kong, of course.

[FarPoint]

31. Gary and Jill ain't coming.

Let it go.

[emulatorloo]

59. PPP: Johnson 6%, Harambe the Gorilla 5%, Stein 2%

The Gorilla is dead, so he can't run. Very doubtful Stein or Johnson will be anywhere near the debate stage.

Harambe the gorilla would do well as presidential candidate: poll

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/harambe-gorilla-presidential-candidate-poll-article-1.2733080

Five percent of respondents said they would cast a ballot for President Harambe. Though not a major margin, 5% is greater than the support shown for Green Party candidate Jill Stein — who earned only 2% support in the poll. It nearly matches support for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, who has 6% support.

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[TheBaculumKing]

74. The Dead Gorilla Could Outdebate Trump

[wheniwasincongress]

80. would be cool

if it was just her answering the questions. Shows that she is willing to be there and ready and Donald isn't!

[ailsagirl]

17. LIKE IT OR LUMP IT, DUMDUM

I'm glad the Commission said NO to that moron-- so few do.

This should be interesting

Bring on the

[C Moon]

21. Sounds like they are heading him off at the pass. We all know he's going to whine and complain

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about the debates and the scheduling.
I think he'll create all kinds of rules—like he gets to choose the questions—or he won't debate.

[TheBaculumKing]

24. He's Afraid of Hillary

And, for once, he's right.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. Trump's staff is much more afraid of Hillary than Trump. Trump is too stupid to be much afraid. . nt

[Warpy]

42. I honestly don't think that's the case

I think he just doesn't want to learn the canned speeches the party wants him to learn and recite if he hears one of the keywords in a question. Republicans haven't answered any questions for years and have gotten away with it every time. These aren't really debates, they're tests of how well some dummy the Republicans are running can learn and recite.

What he wants is to go in there as unprepared as he always is, to play to the bully boys in the audience and make Clinton cry. Now we all know the latter is not going to happen but he doesn't. He's an ignorant blowhard who thinks he knows everything because he's managed to get rich by cheating people.

My best guess says that he will resist the programming and the Republicans will start to panic and argue over minutiae about formats, lighting, podiums, distance between candidates, audience makeup, and all the rest until everybody throws their hands up in defeat and they're canceled. I hope that's unlikely, also.

They know this is going to be a repeat of the Clinton-Lazio debate when she first ran for the Senate. Lazio lost when he shoved a piece of paper in her face and reminded every single woman in the audience of a nit picking, overbearing and angry husband with a credit card statement he didn't like. The Orange Fart will remind them of far worse.

He, of course, will be supremely confident that a woman with too many birthdays and no current sex appeal (to him) is going to be some kind of a pushover. Scared of her? Hell no.

[PatSeg]

35. He doesn't seem to realize

that he is not in the primaries anymore. He is so used to getting his own way, it is hard for him to conform to anyone else's rules.

[Cosmocat]

40. Very likely

This is the first salvo, and sets him up to bag on the last two because "they are rigged."

[Tempest]

38. The football argument is a red herring

The debates do very well on the same nights as the games.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/31/here-are-the-facts-about-the-debate-over-the-debates/

[Francis Booth]

39. I was thinking the same thing... He'll resort to insults, as he has bupkus for policy. nt

[gwheezie]

46. Oh please if it's not one thing, it's another

Any date would not be good for trump. If Hillary wanted to she could say she's willing to do 3 additional debates and let trump pick the days.

[lonestarnot]

52. 90 minutes roadkill. No booing allowed. Whacha gonna do living mass of orange road kill?

Melt? Yeah, probably. Can't wait.

[harrose]

60. I can't blame Trump...

... after all, back in September 2015, who could have predicted that there would be NFL football on Sunday or Monday nights in the fall the following year?

Stupid Rethug scum.

[trueblue2007]

67. Trumpy Rump is such a child. His trumptrum didn't work.

[Mz Pip]

70. Let the NFL change its schedule.

Football is not more important than a presidential election. Especially this one.

[axiom3]

71. Trump is being a coward, as usual

His supporters go on and on about how he'll destroy Hillary in the debates. If that was true, then why is he complaining so much about the dates? Because deep down he and his minions know that Clinton will crush him in every debate they participate in.

[TheBaculumKing]

72. I Wouldn't Want to Face Her

And I have functioning brain cells.

[Chicago1980]

78. He can always not show up like he did for that one in the primaries.

Gives Hillary a chance to talk to the American people.

[The Second Stone]

79. College football is on Saturdays, and High School on Friday nights

So with MNF, and now the Thursday Night game, that leaves only Tuesday and Wednesday for debates, and The Donald has his hair done on Tuesday for date night on Wednesday with Melania. So it looks like he has it all booked up and can't debate. Even though he proved in the republican primary that he is a master debater that can knock cold a moderator with a remark about bleeding that in no way refers to menstruation.

[Sunlei]

81. Tump sucks 'live' even when he knows the questions.He needs much larger hands for all the notes.

[rocktivity]

85. "The Commission...started working MORE THAN 18 MONTHS AGO..."

When the final candidates were just a gleam in their voter's eyes...


rocktivity

[niyad]

86. welcome to du. the orange foolius does NOT want to be face to face with our HRC, because

he knows he won't get away with anything, and he certainly cannot meet her on a level mental playing field.

so he will do everything he can to wiggle out, or whine that it is rigged. just like the conventions were set long before he threw his over-priced baseball cap into the ring.

[TheBaculumKing]

90. Thanks!

I'm just a humble refugee from dKos.

[TonyPDX]

92. He's a coward-- watch him run away. n/t